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cvxfreak · Oct 29, 2010

Chris1964 said:
Pictures of Super Mario Bros. 25th anniversary DSi and DSi LL

http://www.inside-games.jp/article/2010/10/28/45310.html

I hadn't realized it but GameBoyMicro and the reprint of Famicom Mini: Super Mario Bros. at 13/09/05 were released at Nintendo's 20th Anniversary from Super Mario Bros (13/09/85).

Mario 30th Anniversary 3DS or Wii2 incoming.

Road · Oct 29, 2010

Dengeki: http://ascii.jp/elem/000/000/565/565908/

Move sales: 49k (~35% sell-through).

jcm · Oct 29, 2010

Road said:
Dengeki: http://ascii.jp/elem/000/000/565/565908/

Move sales: 49k (~35% sell-through).

Good lord that's awful.

onken · Oct 29, 2010

jcm said:
Good lord that's awful.

Sounds about right to me, I really don't know what people were expecting with that awful launch line up.

Stumpokapow · Oct 29, 2010

While the sales are poor and the launch lineup in Japan is poor, I don't think the sellthrough is cause for concern. It's hardware / accessories so the traditional thinking about a brisk sellthrough being needed is not necessarily true. Obviously you don't want a PSP Go situation where shipment #1 is still sitting on store shelves a year later, but it's not like the price is going to be cut in half next week to burn through stock.

Chris1964 said:
I hadn't realized it but GameBoyMicro and the reprint of Famicom Mini: Super Mario Bros. at 13/09/05 were released at Nintendo's 20th Anniversary from Super Mario Bros (13/09/85).

I want to say I didn't know that either, but now that you've mentioned it I seem to remember some anniversary branding on my US Famicom GBM. I'd have to dig the box out of my storage closet, but I'm pretty sure it was there.

gtj1092 · Oct 29, 2010

Road said:
Dengeki: http://ascii.jp/elem/000/000/565/565908/

Move sales: 49k (~35% sell-through).

Right around the sell thru in America 1million shipped to 300k sold. Europe seems to be the only place the move gave any type of spike in hardware sales.

onken · Oct 29, 2010

gtj1092 said:
Right around the sell thru in America 1million shipped to 300k sold. Europe seems to be the only place the move gave any type of spike in hardware sales.

People are STILL quoting this number :lol

Road · Oct 29, 2010

Dengeki Sales, Oct 18 - 24, 2010:

01 / 00 [WII] Super Mario Collection Special Pack (Nintendo) - 311,929 / 311,929
02 / 00 [PS3] Naruto Shippuuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 2 (Bandai Namco) - 64,371 / 64,371
03 / 00 [PS3] Vanquish (Sega) - 45,325 / 45,325
04 / 02 [NDS] Pokemon Black (Pokemon) - 43,406 / 2,207,830
05 / 03 [NDS] Pokemon White (Pokemon) - 38,565 / 2,041,255
06 / 01 [WII] Kirby's Epic Yarn (Nintendo) - 34,684 / 128,382
07 / 00 [PS3] Medal of Honor (Electronic Arts) - 26,481 / 26,481
08 / 04 [PSP] Lord of Aracana (Square Enix) - 20,932 / 95,579
09 / 00 [PS3] Beat Sketch! (SCE) - 19,280 / 19,280
10 / 00 [PS3] FIFA 11 (Electronic Arts) - 16,239 / 16,239
11 / 05 [NDS] Kingdom Hearts Re:Coded (Square Enix) - 15,485 / 147,447
12 / 07 [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 15,225 / 1,115,931
13 / 06 [PS3] Red Dead Redemption (Take-Two) - 13,163 / 112,614
14 / 00 [PS3] Time Crisis: Razing Storm (Bandai Namco) - 12,131 / 12,131
15 / 00 [360] Vanquish (Sega) - 11,925 / 11,925
16 / 47 [PS3] Resident Evil 5 (Capcom) - 10,573 / ?
17 / 00 [PS3] Sports Champion (SCE) - 7,744 / 7,744
18 / 00 [360] Medal of Honor (Electronic Arts) - 7,407 / 7,407
19 / 15 [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G (PSP the Best Reprint) (Capcom) - 7,033 / 486,317
20 / 00 [WII] No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle (Marvelous Entertainment) - 6,658 / 6,658

Other software (first week / LTD):
2010-05 [WII] Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo) - 354,000 / 870,000
2009-01 [PS3] Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm (Bandai Namco) - 46,000 / 87,000

1) Sell-through
[WII] Super Mario Collection Special Pack ~80%
[PS3] Naruto Shippuuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 2 ~70%

2) Move sales: 49k (~35% sell-through).

Code:

Hardware |  This Week |  Last Week |    YTD     |    LTD
------------------------------------------------------------
PSP      |     33,410 |     39,210 |  1,773,461 | 15,181,798
NDS      |     31,830 |     44,097 |  2,148,321 | 31,116,128
PS3      |     18,566 |     19,899 |  1,224,112 |  5,711,393
WII      |     10,565 |     12,664 |  1,228,141 | 10,773,951
360      |     	1,858 |      2,345 |    200,167 |  1,409,055
PS2      |     	1,095 |      1,517 |     	| 	
------------------------------------------------------------
Total    |     97,324 |    119,732 |

http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/315/315191/
http://ascii.jp/elem/000/000/565/565908/

Oct 11 - 17, 2010
Oct 04 - 10, 2010
Sep 27 - Oct 03
Sep 20 - 26
Sep 13 - 19
Sep 06 - 12
Aug 30 - Sep 05

Chris1964 · Oct 29, 2010

21. / 08. [PSP] Black Leopard: A New Tale of Yakuza (Sega)
22. / 00. [NDS] Strike Witches 2: Iyasu Naosu Punipunisuru (Kadokawa Shoten)
23. / 11. [PSP] K-On! After School Live!! (Sega)
24. / 13. [PSP] Eiyuu Densetsu: Zero no Kiseki (Nihon Falcom)
25. / 14. [NDS] One Piece: Gigant Battle (Bandai Namco)
26. / 16. [WII] Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo)
27. / 09. [PSP] Class of Heroes 3 (Acquire)
28. / 18. [WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo)
29. / 12. [PS3] F1 2010 (Codemasters)
30. / 21. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo)
31. / 20. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
32. / 10. [PS3] Dead Rising 2 (Capcom)
33. / 23. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
34. / 27. [PSP] Monster Hunter Diary: Pokapoka Ailu Village (Capcom)
35. / 00. [360] Naruto Shippuden: Narutimate Storm 2 (Bandai Namco)
36. / 00. [360] FIFA 11: World Class Soccer (Electronic Arts)
37. / 00. [PS3] R.U.S.E. (Ubisoft)
38. / 24. [NDS] Taiko Drum Master DS: Dororon! Battle With the Ghouls!! (Bandai Namco)
39. / 28. [NDS] Art Academy (Nintendo)
40. / 00. [PSP] Metal Fight Beyblade Portable: Chouzetsu Tensei Vulcan Horses (Takara Tomy)
41. / 29. [NDS] Friend Collection (Nintendo)
42. / 26. [PSP] Dragon Ball Z: Tenkaichi Tag Team (Bandai Namco)
43. / 17. [360] Red Dead Redemption (Take-Two Interactive)
44. / 00. [PS3] Kung Fu Rider (SCE)
45. / 32. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: World Challenge!! Spark / Bomber (Level 5)
46. / 22. [PS3] Class of Heroes 3 (Acquire)
47. / 33. [PSP] Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's Tag Force 5 (Konami)
48. / 34. [PS3] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 [Reprint] (Square Enix)
49. / 31. [PSP] Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker (Konami)
50. / 36. [PSP] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva 2nd (Sega)

00. / 00. [ALL] Weekly Software Sales (All Publishers) - 1.051.689 / 46.531.512 (+25%)

PS3 - 16
PSP - 12
NDS - 9
WII - 8
360 - 5
PS2 - 0

Can someone confirm that 街スベリis Kung Fu Rider and not EyePet?

BladeoftheImmortal · Oct 29, 2010

Seems PS3 might even be ahead in the Dengeki charts soon. Is this the first time it will be ahead in all 3 trackers YTD?

jcm · Oct 29, 2010

onken said:
Sounds about right to me, I really don't know what people were expecting with that awful launch line up.

Well, personally I thought they'd sell 100K or so, but that number was just pulled out of my ass. Are they advertising it at all?

duckroll · Oct 29, 2010

Okamiden is already out of the top50? I guess Nintendo didn't have any blank carts left to spare Capcom! Too bad.

Road · Oct 29, 2010

Chris1964 said:
Can someone confirm that 街スベリis Kung Fu Rider and not EyePet?

http://www.jp.playstation.com/software/title/bcjs30055.html

Seems like so. hehe

MC also says the 360 version of Naruto sold 3k copies.

cvxfreak · Oct 29, 2010

Road, where is source for the 11 - 20 chart for Dengeki? Can't find it in the two links you provided.

Chris1964 · Oct 29, 2010

duckroll · Oct 29, 2010

Chris1964 said:
I don't know if this was posted

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/10/29/nintendo_3ds_demo_event/

Who's moving to Japan this January?

We already have a thread for this.

Road · Oct 29, 2010

cvxfreak said:
Road, where is source for the 11 - 20 chart for Dengeki? Can't find it in the two links you provided.

http://news.dengeki.com/soft/ranking/ranking.html

I don't link it because it changes from week to week, so it can't be kept for future reference on the posts.

I think the RE5 there is the Alternative/Gold Edition, but I'm just translating. =P

cvxfreak · Oct 29, 2010

Road said:
http://news.dengeki.com/soft/ranking/ranking.html

I don't link it because it changes from week to week, so it can't be kept for future reference on the posts.

I think the RE5 there is the Alternative/Gold Edition, but I'm just translating. =P

Thanks. Weird. They list the game as the original Biohazard 5 with the original's 2009 release date and pricing. But that can't be since the game is long gone from new store shelves and isn't even Move compatible.

Road · Oct 29, 2010

cvxfreak said:
Thanks. Weird. They list the game as the original Biohazard 5 with the original's 2009 release date and pricing. But that can't be since the game is long gone from new store shelves and isn't even Move compatible.

Yeah, in the ASCII article they even call it the "Alternative Edition" with the same 11k sales. Not gonna make much different without an updated LTD, though. =\

Chris1964 · Oct 29, 2010

For Gran Turismo defence force

23/12/97 [PS1] Gran Turismo (SCE) - 648.650 / 2.186.375
25/03/99 [PS1] Gran Turismo [Playstation the Best] (SCE) - 16.290 / 192.684

11/12/99 [PS1] Gran Turismo 2 (SCE) - 748.581 / 1.460.687

28/04/01 [PS2] Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec (SCE) - 468.391 / 1.438.743
13/12/01 [PS2] Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec [Mega Hits] (SCE) - / 74.957

28/12/04 [PS2] Gran Turismo 4 (SCE) - 663.543 / 1.066.749
06/07/06 [PS2] Gran Turismo 4 [Playstation 2 the Best] (SCE) - 2.623 / 143.714

dolemite · Oct 29, 2010

Chris1964 said:
For Gran Turismo defence force

23/12/97 [PS1] Gran Turismo (SCE) - 648.650 / 2.186.375
25/03/99 [PS1] Gran Turismo [Playstation the Best] (SCE) - 16.290 / 192.684

11/12/99 [PS1] Gran Turismo 2 (SCE) - 748.581 / 1.460.687

28/04/01 [PS2] Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec (SCE) - 468.391 / 1.438.743
13/12/01 [PS2] Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec [Mega Hits] (SCE) - / 74.957

28/12/04 [PS2] Gran Turismo 4 (SCE) - 663.543 / 1.066.749
06/07/06 [PS2] Gran Turismo 4 [Playstation 2 the Best] (SCE) - 2.623 / 143.714

Time periods between consequent GT games:
2 years
2 years
3 years
6 years

gundamkyoukai · Oct 29, 2010

Chris1964 said:
For Gran Turismo defence force

23/12/97 [PS1] Gran Turismo (SCE) - 648.650 / 2.186.375
25/03/99 [PS1] Gran Turismo [Playstation the Best] (SCE) - 16.290 / 192.684

11/12/99 [PS1] Gran Turismo 2 (SCE) - 748.581 / 1.460.687

28/04/01 [PS2] Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec (SCE) - 468.391 / 1.438.743
13/12/01 [PS2] Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec [Mega Hits] (SCE) - / 74.957

28/12/04 [PS2] Gran Turismo 4 (SCE) - 663.543 / 1.066.749
06/07/06 [PS2] Gran Turismo 4 [Playstation 2 the Best] (SCE) - 2.623 / 143.714

I already knew GT 1 sold most in Japan all you have to do is check PD website.
Still the person said that no cares about GT in Japan or NA ,it selling less don't make that fact.
Even if series is in decline in Japan it is still a big IP.

Chris1964 · Oct 29, 2010

gundamkyoukai said:
I already knew GT 1 sold most in Japan all you have to do is check PD website.
Still the person said that no cares about GT in Japan or NA ,it selling less don't make that fact.

I don't care what the person said. I said that Gran Turismo isn't anymore what it was in Japan. Do you disagree with that?

u_neek · Oct 29, 2010

Anybody think GT5 will pass 1m?

How much did Prologue do?

cvxfreak · Oct 29, 2010

u_neek said:
Anybody think GT5 will pass 1m?

Possible, but not guaranteed.

jamesinclair · Oct 29, 2010

Im surprised Kirby sales are so low. US sales will easilly beat it.

gundamkyoukai · Oct 29, 2010

Chris1964 said:
I don't care what the person said. I said that Gran Turismo isn't anymore what it was in Japan. Do you disagree with that?

Well i would have to see the sales of GT5 before i say that since it's been 6 years since a console version .
If does over million i would say it's still big IP in Japan for console.
Wonder if online going to help it , this being Japan most likely not .

u_neek said:
How much did Prologue do?

Going by PD numbers 740k shipped which has bundles and DD in the numbers .

test_account · Oct 29, 2010

u_neek said:
How much did Prologue do?

About 533k split over 2 versions, 'Prologue' and 'Prologue Spec III', where 'Prologue Spec III' was bundled with PS3 hardware (i belive that it was sold as a standalone game too?).

Personally i dont think that the sales of GT5

rologue is that much of an indication on how GT5 will sell, mostly because Prologue was released in a period when the PS3 was quite low in popularity. Now the PS3 is more popular in Japan and GT5 will be released before this holiday season (most likely at least) which i belive is a pretty good time to release this game. If GT5 gets released in early December, then i would not be surprised if GT5 sells like 700k-800k in the 3-4 first weeks. Time will tell though

EDIT: For the Prologue numbers, i checked on www.garaph.info.

Oldschool · Oct 29, 2010

I thought move sold out on a lot of stores...?

Pretty low sell-through.

Chris1964 · Oct 29, 2010

test_account said:
EDIT: For the Prologue numbers, i checked on www.garaph.info.

You aren't far.

Famitsu
[PS3] Gran Turismo 5: Prologue (SCE) - 108.040 / 238.578
[PS3] Gran Turismo 5: Prologue - Spec III (SCE) - 34.186 / 295.174

Media Create
[PS3] Gran Turismo 5: Prologue (SCE) - 115.748 / 233.230
[PS3] Gran Turismo 5: Prologue - Spec III (SCE) - 34.965 / 366.370

Paracelsus · Oct 29, 2010

http://www.polyphony.co.jp/english/list.html

Gran Turismo 5 Prologue 740000

Shipped?

Chris1964 · Oct 29, 2010

Paracelsus said:
http://www.polyphony.co.jp/english/list.html

Shipped?

Obviously.

gundamkyoukai · Oct 29, 2010

Chris1964 said:
Obviously.

Still does Famitsu or Media Create have the DD sale numbers.
I don't think it much to tell the truth either way maybe 25k :lol

Chris1964 · Oct 29, 2010

gundamkyoukai said:
Still does Famitsu or Media Create have the DD sale numbers.
I don't think it much to tell the truth either way .

DD sales and Japan don't go together.

gundamkyoukai · Oct 29, 2010

Chris1964 said:
DD sales and Japan don't go together.

Yeah i know , that why added 25k joke just now and that's if they lucky :lol

Chris1964 · Oct 29, 2010

Nintendo has Donkey Kong Country Returns as ''This Winter'' is Japan.

Missing 2010 looks very likely now. Maybe for the best.

cvxfreak · Oct 29, 2010

What does Nintendo have for December, if DKCR slips into 2011?

It's not inconceivable for Nintendo to release Donkey Kong titles in December. It happened in 1999 (Donkey Kong 64), 2003 (Donkey Konga), 2004 (Donkey Kong Jungle Beat) and even 2008 (NPD: Donkey Kong Jungle Beat).

All 3 Super Donkey Kong games were released in November.

Last Story releases in January, so Nintendo would want to keep other games out of that time slot.

DKCR should be a December title, and I'm pretty sure that's how it'll end up.

Cygnus X-1 · Oct 29, 2010

Chris1964 said:
Nintendo has Donkey Kong Country Returns as ''This Winter'' is Japan.

Missing 2010 looks very likely now. Maybe for the best.

Why for the best? I don't think that the game would sell anywhere near as if it were shipped before Christmas.

Chris1964 · Oct 29, 2010

Wii has Kirby + Mario titles mainly. Mario Sports Mix is at 25/11/10 + older Mario titles which are included in 25th Super Mario Bros. anniversary advertising.

Can they really announce a December release right now? October is over and I don't think there is another retailer meeting for this year.

Cygnus X-1 said:
Why for the best? I don't think that the game would sell anywhere near as if it were shipped before Christmas.

Maybe it's for the best maybe for the worst. It has to compete with Mario and Kirby.

Chris1964 · Oct 29, 2010

Last year the last retailer meeting was at october 8 and there it was dated NSMBW, Pikachu and NHK Red and White Quiz Battle.

Last Story, a January title, got a release date at September 29.

gogogow · Oct 29, 2010

Chris1964 said:
Obviously.

Gran Turismo 5 Prologue Spec III
2008-12-29 ____rank11__59,846___283,683
2009-06-22_____rank0_______0___295,174

Garaph stopped tracking the game after 2008-12-29. In it's 10th week it sold 59,846 copies, it's hard to believe that after half a year it only sold another 11,491 copies. What happened to the 11th, 12th,....week. Where does Garaph gets his 2009 update from? I can't find the information on that site.

Chris1964 · Oct 29, 2010

famitsu 2008 CY 31/12/07 28/12/08 052 [PS3] Gran Turismo 5: Prologue - Spec III (SCE) - 223.837 / 223.837
famitsu 2009 CY 29/12/08 27/12/09 170 [PS3] Gran Turismo 5: Prologue - Spec III (SCE) - 71.337 / 295.174

mcreate 2008 CY 31/12/07 28/12/08 060 [PS3] Gran Turismo 5: Prologue - Spec III (SCE) - 212.611 / 212.611
mcreate 2009 CY 29/12/08 03/01/10 086 [PS3] Gran Turismo 5: Prologue - Spec III (SCE) - 153.759 / 366.370

For Famitsu it's dead since June 2009.

Spiegel · Oct 29, 2010

Also GT5 Prologue SPEC III sold that good because it was a free pack-in when the PS3 80GB model was launched.

Chris1964 · Oct 29, 2010

Spiegel said:
Also GT5 Prologue SPEC III sold that good because it was a free pack-in when the PS3 80GB model was launched.

And stopped selling when the bundles ended.

gogogow · Oct 29, 2010

Chris1964 said:
famitsu 2008 CY 31/12/07 28/12/08 052 [PS3] Gran Turismo 5: Prologue - Spec III (SCE) - 223.837 / 223.837
famitsu 2009 CY 29/12/08 27/12/09 170 [PS3] Gran Turismo 5: Prologue - Spec III (SCE) - 71.337 / 295.174

mcreate 2008 CY 31/12/07 28/12/08 060 [PS3] Gran Turismo 5: Prologue - Spec III (SCE) - 212.611 / 212.611
mcreate 2009 CY 29/12/08 03/01/10 086 [PS3] Gran Turismo 5: Prologue - Spec III (SCE) - 153.759 / 366.370

For Famitsu it's dead since June 2009.

I see thanks, so Famitsu stopped tracking. That 295.174 must be a bullshit number, since I don't believe that it only sold another 11,491 copies in 6 months time. Adding only the missing 11th week sales would have put it over Famitsu's LTD, let alone all the missing weeks/months/year.

If we add mcreate's 366k+ famitsu's GT5P 238k we have 604k already. So it's not hard to believe it sold close to 700k.

Chris1964 · Oct 29, 2010

gogogow said:
I see thanks, so Famitsu stopped tracking. That 295.174 must be a bullshit number, since I don't believe that it only sold another 11,491 copies in 6 months time. Adding only the missing 11th week sales would have put it over Famitsu's LTD, let alone all the missing weeks/months/year.

If we add mcreate's 366k+ famitsu's GT5P 238k we have 604k already. So it's not hard to believe it sold close to 700k.

The 295.174 for June is not a bullshit number. It's from Famitsu 2009 first half.

famitsu 2009 H1-CY 29/12/08 28/06/09 85 [PS3] Gran Turismo 5: Prologue - Spec III (SCE) - 71.337 / 295.174

The bundles were gone after December 2008 and it had a sharp drop in sales.

Cygnus X-1 · Oct 29, 2010

Chris1964 said:
Maybe it's for the best maybe for the worst. It has to compete with Mario and Kirby.

Do you still think that Kirby will be able to recover? Why?

Chris1964 · Oct 29, 2010

Cygnus X-1 said:
Do you still think that Kirby will be able to recover? Why?

Media Create and Famitsu believe it, I'm with them.

gogogow · Oct 29, 2010

Chris1964 said:
The 295.174 for June is not a bullshit number. It's from Famitsu 2009 first half.

famitsu 2009 H1-CY 29/12/08 28/06/09 85 [PS3] Gran Turismo 5: Prologue - Spec III (SCE) - 71.337 / 295.174

The bundles were gone after December 2008 and it had a sharp drop in sales.

I mean its not an indication of it's ltd sales, since theres a huge discrepancy with mcreates number.

If i'm reading it correct, please correct me if i'm wrong, mcreates number is up to January 30th 2010?

Chris1964 · Oct 29, 2010

gogogow said:
I mean its not an indication of it's ltd sales, since theres a huge discrepancy with mcreates number.

If i'm reading it correct, please correct me if i'm wrong, mcreates number is up to January 30th 2010?

Famitsu isn't VGC. Just accept the numbers each traker gives, you don't know which one is closer to reality at this case. Media Create's numbers have one more week than Famitsu (03/01/10: January 3, 2010)

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