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Media Create Sales: Week 13, 2015 (Mar 23 - Mar 29)
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Hellraider
Member
It's not?
Furfuryl Furforate
Banned
when looking at how pitiful the XBO is selling, 300 to 500 units a week(!), it isn't so bad was what I meant.
Pennywise83
Banned
38./36. [3DS] Nanatsu no Taizai: The Seven Deadly Sins - Unjust Sin <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.02.11} (¥6.145)
Nice hold considering all the new entries.
Nice hold considering all the new entries.
Sangetsu-II
Member
But it sold 250 this week does that mean it's bad now?
Furfuryl Furforate
Banned
are you purposefully misunderstanding me? I already called them pitiful...
Hellraider
Member
50k LTD is just as pitiful as 500 units per week. I understand what you mean, but you are thinking it wrong.
Sorry for the delay:
This week's releases {2015.04.02}
[PS3] [PSV] 3rd Super Robot Wars Z: Tengoku-Hen <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥8.716) (¥7.690)
[3DS] Xenoblade Chronicles 3D <RPG> (Nintendo) (¥3.996)
[PS4] Earth Defense Force 2025.1: The Shadow of New Despair <ACT> (D3 Publisher) (¥7.538)
[WIU] Rodea the Sky Soldier <ACT> (Kadokawa Games) (¥7.776)
First Day Sell-Through {2015.04.02}
[PS3] [PSV] 3rd Super Robot Wars Z: Tengoku-Hen <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) - 50-60% both versions sold almost the same amount of copies, PS3 slightly above
[3DS] Xenoblade Chronicles 3D <RPG> (Nintendo) - 40% he heard that the shipment is above 100k
[PS4] Earth Defense Force 2025.1: The Shadow of New Despair <ACT> (D3 Publisher) - more than 50% selling just normal
[3DS] [WIU] Rodea the Sky Soldier <ACT> (Kadokawa Games) - 20% both versions at the same level, the shipment is not big
This week's releases {2015.04.02}
[PS3] [PSV] 3rd Super Robot Wars Z: Tengoku-Hen <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥8.716) (¥7.690)
[3DS] Xenoblade Chronicles 3D <RPG> (Nintendo) (¥3.996)
[PS4] Earth Defense Force 2025.1: The Shadow of New Despair <ACT> (D3 Publisher) (¥7.538)
[WIU] Rodea the Sky Soldier <ACT> (Kadokawa Games) (¥7.776)
First Day Sell-Through {2015.04.02}
[PS3] [PSV] 3rd Super Robot Wars Z: Tengoku-Hen <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) - 50-60% both versions sold almost the same amount of copies, PS3 slightly above
[3DS] Xenoblade Chronicles 3D <RPG> (Nintendo) - 40% he heard that the shipment is above 100k
[PS4] Earth Defense Force 2025.1: The Shadow of New Despair <ACT> (D3 Publisher) - more than 50% selling just normal
[3DS] [WIU] Rodea the Sky Soldier <ACT> (Kadokawa Games) - 20% both versions at the same level, the shipment is not big
I wonder why so many people call it a demake. Sure graphically it looks really crappy compared what we've gotten used to, even on the Vita. But still they added stuff.
- Atelier Astrid plotline
- Rorona Plus stuff
- Difficulty Option
So demake sounds way to harsh for it. Or am I misinterpreting the word demake? as it isn't making it worse?
Ontopic: Don't think the audience for the Atelier series has gone. It has never been large.
Wii version not there? Or is it packed in with the Wii U version?
Thanks.
Eolz
Member
packed in 1st print editions
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
FFTactics was also a brilliant game, so it's probably not the most fair comparison to other FF spin-offs =).
Anyways, back to the discussion I started, I wouldn't be surprised if the 3DS drops some this year, but if it's anything above 2.5M, I'd say that's a pretty big success for a console in its fifth year (and would put it over 20M).
Moor-Angol
Banned
Sangetsu-II
Member
hiska-kun my man, been waiting for them pics. Thanks bro!
Moor-Angol
Banned
Assassination Classroom (3DS) sold out on both Yodobashi and Bic Camera while on Amazon.jp is priced 7,000yen 
damn, I should have bought it on D1....
damn, I should have bought it on D1....
Xbox: 123,929 / 500,000
Xbox 360: 62,135 / 1,650,000
Xbox One: 25,764 / 49,107
Eolz
Member
I'm still surprised at the Xbox getting 120k+ FW. Did they have some sort of different marketing, or was japan just more receptive back then?
Well PS2 sold 980,000 units in two days and Gamecube sold 300,000 units in 2 days.
So 123k isn't exactly great when you look at the console launches back then. Not to mention that LTD sales are only 500k.
Kresnik258
Member
I'm very interested to see how Atelier Rorona performs on 3DS. It's pretty surprising to see it show up on COMG, since none of the Vita versions showed up before release (and sold up to 30k FW).
I suspect the reason it showed up is because of the last minute delay (i.e. these were the people that were going to buy it before it was delayed).
Still, 10 pre-orders already is more than I'd have expected. I'm wondering whether it'll have cost more than the Vita ports to make, because while those are a literal just porting of everything across from PS3 -> Vita while this is more "from the ground up" re-building, with an obvious base to work on.
Good idea to move the release date though. Would've gotten destroyed on the 26th.
I suspect the reason it showed up is because of the last minute delay (i.e. these were the people that were going to buy it before it was delayed).
Still, 10 pre-orders already is more than I'd have expected. I'm wondering whether it'll have cost more than the Vita ports to make, because while those are a literal just porting of everything across from PS3 -> Vita while this is more "from the ground up" re-building, with an obvious base to work on.
Good idea to move the release date though. Would've gotten destroyed on the 26th.
Furfuryl Furforate
Banned
I'm guessing launch and LTD of each iteration?
SnowFlakeCake
Member
Why they bothered with XB1 in Japan I just don't know.
The system launched with Dead or Alive 3, which was pretty popular at the time. DOA3 had close to a 70% attach rate that first week.
Hellraider
Member
The dont bother, they are just there. Doesn't cost them anything.
Sangetsu-II
Member
It does cost them (Marketing and Unsold quantities that could be sold elsewhere)
Eolz
Member
Yeah, that put things in perspective, but GC was still a japanese system, and PS2 was, well... the PS2.
I see. Didn't remember it being that popular back then.
Shelf space costs money.
Dead or Alive sold the Xbox!
Pennywise83
Banned
Assassination Classroom (3DS) sold out on both Yodobashi and Bic Camera while on Amazon.jp is priced 7,000yen
damn, I should have bought it on D1....
Another anime tie-in selling more than expected on 3DS -after The 7 Deadly Sins.
Well, it'd not be that far from the average the series is having on PSV.
Moor-Angol
Banned
the funny thing is, back in the day, Xbox poor sales were justified as "japanese don't like western products (false) and western games (more true)"
and now western games on PS4 are selling very well...
Would that mean that anime/otaku games that saw PSVita as home, could possibly migrate to NX in the near future?
the funny thing is, back in the day, Xbox poor sales were justified as "japanese don't like western products (false) and western games (more true)"
and now western games on PS4 are selling very well...
The secret was not making any japanese games!
Why would two shonen IPs like Assassination Classroom (which is going through a huge push right now: anime premiere in Jan and live action movie in March) and Seven Deadly Sins indicate that? I can't imagine there's a tonne of overlap between the audience buying those and say, Love Live, or something.
As an aside, neither of those 3DS games look particularly good. I know Famitsu gave the Assassination Classroom game a weak review, and when they give a weak review to a Bamco game, it usually deserves it.
Well, there are zero platform for those games except for NX in the future? Unless if they are simply going to make the game for Smartphone.(We know there are no continuation of Vita here.)
Moor-Angol
Banned
The secret was not making any japanese games!
ah ah ah ah that's true
would have imagine that 15 years ago...
anyway I was wondering when shops will start to discount XBO in order to take space on their shelves...
biglittleps
Member
Vita hardware can survive for another 3-5 years easily considering 3DS horse power and its games compared to Vita(and i expect NX hardware horse power will be close or little better than Vita mostly). Slowly developers might migrate to smartphones i think in 5 years.
Well, it depends i guess? If Vita hardware sales does pick up more than the current number in these upcoming years, maybe it can handle around 5 years later but if it is not. I think the most would be simply 3 years and it is done.(Except for Visual novel i guess?)
It also depends on how much the damage the smartphone market will do to handheld there.
If they can coexist together, i can see some niche title staying together on NX.
Hero of Legend
Member
As someone who considers NX unofficially the codename of the console (well both, but leaning more to the console which is what comes to mind first), I'm so used to addressing the handheld as 4DS that my mind is confused.
Moor-Angol
Banned
they'll go on home (PS4), it's more than 20 years third parties ignore nintendo platforms except the spike due to the DS, so I can't imagine they go back to develop on N platforms just because there will be only one handheld on the market
Many developers want a home reinassance in Japan, and just one handheld to develop for might be a good excuse to switch to PS4, getting the old role PS1 and PS2 had in the past.
the question being poised isn't regarding the developers who make games with the western market in mind. the kinds of games that are selling in japan and are fairly focused on the japanese market aren't going to turn up on the ps4 in spades if nintendo can sell another 15m+ units in japan. i think that next gen you'll see that largely, those weird niche japanese games, plus a lot of the anime adaptation stuff that was on vita and 3ds are going to be largely nx and smartphones, and probably ps4 too. i really doubt the shrinking console space is really where these developers are secretly wanting to be, cursing their days on 20m+ selling hardware with the ds, psp, and soon-to-be 3ds.
i'm someone who believes that nx is the codename for a library available across different kinds of hardware though, including a handheld and a console variant.
Doesn't matter what the developers want if the audience and market doesn't exist. People aren't going to move to the consoles they have already not chosen to move to just because the 3DS retires its 18 million install base with new software, they'll move on to mobile entirely unless Nintendo sells another 10-15 million units.
Wanting a home console reinassance is not 100% guaranteed to happen though. If NX still sells around 15 mill in Japan, most JP developers are surely still going to support the system.
After all, what platform JP devs will be able to sell millions of copies of their games if it is not on handheld nowadays. We see PS3 had only a few million seller in its whole life right?
It would not surprise me if the sales for this game were really unexpectedly high
Those games would go mobile before PS4.
small44
Member
But which dtudios actually use this power
Pennywise83
Banned
3-5 years easily? I don't think so. PSV will likely decrease hw-wise YOY, after a small decrease last year, and software doesn't seem to keep up. Some games already shown how the fanbase is more than willing to migrate elsewhere (Senran Kagura, OPM3, SAO), and there's no way PSV will be active in the market in 2019.
It'd be interesting where those niche developed will go if Sony is not bothering in releasing another handheld platform. Probably PS4, and perhaps that's why we're seeing some efforts in this direction (e.g. Senran Kagura, Neptunia). There shouldn't be any reluctance in going towards the next Nintendo handheld, if any, though; Nintendo handhelds has shown to be capable enough in hosting third party software.
The fact that they don't look particularly good shouldn't matter a lot here. I always keep reading this for anime tie-in on 3DS (e.g. Attack on Titan); the fact, though, that they're able to sell well over time, it should be a signal that they're not so bad (otherwise word-of-mouth would cut their legs, as happened a lot of time). As long as I know, for example, The Seven Deadly Sin is an average game, good enough to entertain fans of the IP. And let's not pretend that the average quality of anime tie-ins has always been great, because it's not true.
PS4 has yet to prove to be able to get the role PS1 and PS2 had at that time, and market forces suggest that it won't be the case. Developing on PS4 is costly, and returns might not be enough. I can't imagine Compile Heart putting the same quantity on PS4 with respect to PSV, for example.
Anyway, there's not reason to avoid a handheld that might be able to sell well, and might be cheap to develop, unless there are agreements with the hw manufacturer (which exist, as clearly shown Sony).