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Media Create Sales: Week 30, 2015 (Jul 20 - Jul 26)

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Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
This week's Famitsu had top 30 Retail + Digital. No one posted it yet anywhere?
 
W

wmlk

Member
Busaiku said:
Now this is an outlandish statement too, when neither Platinum nor Black 2 sold more than Dragon Quest IX or VII/VIII.
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Do you have a comparison for that? IIRC, Platinum sold upwards of 7 million by 2010.

EDIT: Wait, we're talking just domestically? Then yes, DQXI will sell more. In fact, I see it selling more than any Pokémon game in Japan next year since we know that a mainline game won't be coming out.
 
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Busaiku

Member
Dragon Quest isn't a thing outside of Japan, and I don't expect PS4, 3DS, or NX to change that when PS2 (with a Final Fantasy demo, when it was still huge) and DS (with Nintendo's marketing) could not.
 
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allan-bh

Member
Busaiku said:
Dragon Quest isn't a thing outside of Japan, and I don't expect PS4, 3DS, or NX to change that when PS2 (with a Final Fantasy demo, when it was still huge) and DS (with Nintendo's marketing) could not.
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Nintendo shipped more than 1 million copies of Dragon Quest IX in west. Japan is by far the biggest market for the series, but DQ XI can hit good sales outside of there.
 
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KillerMan91

Member
allan-bh said:
Nintendo shipped more than 1 million copies of Dragon Quest IX in west. Japan is by far the biggest market for the series, but DQ XI can hit good sales outside of there.
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Not to mention rest of Asia. If even DQ Heroes manages to sell around 200k in rest of Asia in couple of months DQXI should do well also.
 
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Oregano

Member
Going back to my earlier post(just got home from work) perhaps it's more accurate to say that all current gen platforms have done best in their first full calendar year. It's very possible that PS4 and XBO won't follow that trend(XBO for a very different reason!). In regards to the PS4 it really depends on how spaced out big releases are and how much appeal they actually have. Wii U had its two big games last year but still dropped below 2013.

I limited it to this current gen because frankly I don't think examples from nearly a decade ago are that relevant nowadays. It's a very different market and consumers have very different spending patterns.
 
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Ōkami

Member
wmlk said:
Do you have a comparison for that? IIRC, Platinum sold upwards of 7 million by 2010.

EDIT: Wait, we're talking just domestically? Then yes, DQXI will sell more. In fact, I see it selling more than any Pokémon game in Japan next year since we know that a mainline game won't be coming out.
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We do?
 
V

Vena

Member
Does Japan still have no word or expanded upon reveals on P5 for this year? Are we expecting this info at TGS?
 
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Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Vena said:
Does Japan still have no word or expanded upon reveals on P5 for this year? Are we expecting this info at TGS?
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Given how Persona plays and is structured, unless this game is a radical departure, there's not much they have that they can actually market.

I imagine they won't show much until near the end.
 
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Vena

Member
Nirolak said:
Given how Persona plays and is structured, unless this game is a radical departure, there's not much they have that they can actually market.

I imagine they won't show much until near the end.
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Mmkay. I figured we'd have started hearing a bit more of it and such, to try and drum up some market "hype" even if it is a known entity. But you're probably right.
 
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Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Vena said:
Mmkay. I figured we'd have started hearing a bit more of it and such, to try and drum up some market "hype" even if it is a known entity. But you're probably right.
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Atlus likes to do weekly marketing as release nears, so they probably don't have that many weeks worth of content for a game like this.
 
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FluxWaveZ

Member
Man God said:
Atlus ramps up about a month out.
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If you mean that that's how they usually do things, that doesn't sound right at all.

Nirolak said:
Given how Persona plays and is structured, unless this game is a radical departure, there's not much they have that they can actually market.

I imagine they won't show much until near the end.
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I find it relatively surprising that they haven't publicly released PV02 yet, more than a month after P4D's release date. That's what they did with the exclusive SMTIV trailer back in 2012.
 
W

wmlk

Member
Ōkami;173397006 said:
We do?
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Crap, I messed up. I meant something like a new generation. With Zygarde's new form being shown, I'd wager it's going to be something like Pokémon Z, which would obviously sell less than a new gen.
 
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Xenoboy

Member
What will release first?
Vaporware SMTxFE
or
7 year gap sequel, Persona 5?

I find it a bit odd how both will release around the same time.
 
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Hero of Legend

Member
BTW, we have a first peek at Monster Strike 3DS in Famitsu. There are scans floating about showing 2 in-game screens of a full 3D field, looks like the newly announced anime rather than the mobile game itself.

Question is, who's making this? I'd imagine it's a retail game, but Mixi, the creator (formed by the founder of Game Republic IIRC) only do mobile games, so who's developing and publishing this?

Edit: I was wrong, Mixi was around a lot longer, the game is at least co-created by the founder of GR though.
 
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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
sense said:
I still think ps4 will do more than ps3 ltd when all is said and done.
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Code: 
+--------------------------+--------------------------+
|            PS3           |            PS4           |
+----+----------+----------+----+----------+----------+
|YEAR|    YTD   |    LTD   |YEAR|    YTD   |    LTD   |  
+----+----------+----------+----+----------+----------+
|2006|   457.557|   457.557|2013|          |          |
|2007| 1.184.114| 1.641.671|2014|   970.667|   970.667|
|2008|   980.797| 2.622.468|2015|   657.008| 1.627.675|
|2009| 1.878.899| 4.501.367|2016|          |          |
|2010| 1.586.123| 6.087.490|2017|          |          |
|2011| 1.548.895| 7.636.385|2018|          |          |
|2012| 1.223.699| 8.860.084|2019|          |          |
|2013|   849.590| 9.709.674|2020|          |          |
|2014|   459.317|10.168.991|2021|          |          |
|2015|   162.912|10.331.903|2022|          |          |
+----+----------+----------+----+----------+----------+

KillerMan91 said:
Not to mention rest of Asia. If even DQ Heroes manages to sell around 200k in rest of Asia in couple of months DQXI should do well also.
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Where does this 200k in rest of Asia come from? Did Square give shipments for Japan?
 
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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
new releases

{2015.08.04}

[WIU] Devil's Third _Amazon.co.jp_ <ACT> (Nintendo) (¥7.236)

{2015.08.06}

[3DS] Nobunaga's Ambition 2 # <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥5.184)
[3DS] Nobunaga's Ambition 2 (1/1)(Premium Box) <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥7.344)
[3DS] Romance of the Three Kingdoms 2 <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥5.184)
[3DS] Romance of the Three Kingdoms 2 (1/1)(Premium Box) <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥7.344)
[3DS] Nobunaga's Ambition 2 & Romance of the Three Kingdoms 2 Twin Pack {Nobunaga's Ambition 2 \ Romance of the Three Kingdoms 2} <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥9.504)
[3DS] Bonbon Ribbon: Tokimeki Coord Kirakira Dance <ACT> (Rocket Company) (¥5.184)

[PSV] Luminous Arc: Infinity <SLG> (Marvelous) (¥7.344)
[PSV] Gal Gun: Double Peace # <ACT> (Alchemist) (¥7.344)
[PSV] Gal Gun: Double Peace (1/1)(Limited Edition) <ACT> (Alchemist) (¥9.504)
[PSV] Toukiden: Kiwami [1/1][Koei Tecmo the Best] <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) (¥3.758)
[PSV] Warriors Orochi 3: Ultimate [1/1][PlayStation Vita the Best] <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) (¥3.218)

[PS4] Gal Gun: Double Peace # <ACT> (Alchemist) (¥8.424)
[PS4] Gal Gun: Double Peace (1/1)(Limited Edition) <ACT> (Alchemist) (¥10.584)

[PS3] Dynasty Warriors 8: Empires [1/1][PlayStation 3 the Best] <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) (¥3.758)
[PS3] Warriors Orochi 3: Ultimate [1/1][PlayStation 3 the Best] <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) (¥3.218)
 
N

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Granblue Fantasy just hit #2 in the top grossing charts today, ~1.5 years after its debut.

It's also been steadily trending upward over its lifetime.

I think we can call this one a stable success.

granblue4b2jgz.png
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hiska-kun

Member
Mpl90 said:
This week's Famitsu had top 30 Retail + Digital. No one posted it yet anywhere?
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[3DS] Tobidasu! Nyanko Daisensou - 97.189 (100%)
[WIU] Splatoon - 19.981 (5,8%)
[PS3] Minecraft - 9.362 (100%)
[PSV] Shiren the Wanderer 5 Plus - 8.799 (28,5%)
[3DS] Hako Boy - 8.164 (91,9%)
[3DS] Rhythm Heaven the Best+ - 7.163 (3,1%)
[PS4] Devil May Cry 4: Special Edition - 7.047 (18,6%)
[PS4] The Witcher 3 - 6.978 (13,2%)
[PSV] Minecraft - 6.931 (15,4%)
[PS4] Natsuiro High School - 3.546 (19,9%)
 
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ZhugeEX

Banned
hiska-kun said:
[3DS] Tobidasu! Nyanko Daisensou - 97.189 (100%)
[WIU] Splatoon - 19.981 (5,8%)
[PS3] Minecraft - 9.362 (100%)
[PSV] Shiren the Wanderer 5 Plus - 8.799 (28,5%)
[3DS] Hako Boy - 8.164 (91,9%)
[3DS] Rhythm Heaven the Best+ - 7.163 (3,1%)
[PS4] Devil May Cry 4: Special Edition - 7.047 (18,6%)
[PS4] The Witcher 3 - 6.978 (13,2%)
[PSV] Minecraft - 6.931 (15,4%)
[PS4] Natsuiro High School - 3.546 (19,9%)
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hiska... HISKA..... HIIIISSSSKKKAAAAAA!

Did you get my PM?
 
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madstarr12

Member
10./03. [WIU] Yoshi's Woolly World # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2015.07.16} (¥6.156) - 11.733 / 42.891 (-62%)

Poor Yoshi, his extinction is quite sad to see. :(

24./24. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 2.388 / 2.428.109 <80-100%> (+27%)

Mario Kart 7 will never die!

[WIU] Devil's Third _Amazon.co.jp_ <ACT> (Nintendo) (¥7.236)

Megabomba imminent.

Wonder which version of Dragon Quest XI will get most of the marketing. 3DS version seems like to more obvious choice since that'll easily be a multimillion seller (2+ million, 3.5 million likely). I don't see the PS4 version selling more than 2 million, but maybe SE will wanna try to sell the PS4 version as much as possible since it'll be the most costly one to develop, so marketing for that one may be higher in comparison to the 3DS version.
 
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Vena

Member
Nirolak said:
1.) The production values for Monster Strike 3DS are about 10 times higher than I was expecting: http://gematsu.com/2015/07/first-look-monster-strike-3ds-game
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This is a really impressive production. Trying to branch the brand into a potentially long-term handheld series as well to keep interest varied and high, possibly? In a way I could see this as a play at avoiding the pitfall that P&D has slowly slipped into and its inability to grow the brand on other platforms or in general now against competition.

Might even see it ported to the NX.
 
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dakkumauji

Member
Nirolak said:
In additional mobile related news:

1.) The production values for Monster Strike 3DS are about 10 times higher than I was expecting: http://gematsu.com/2015/07/first-look-monster-strike-3ds-game

2.) Monster Gate (Sega's aesthetic Monster Hunter knock-off) is still performing very well by Sega standards and getting a decent way up the top 20.
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very impressive they are putting in effort into Monster Strike 3DS

thought it would be like a port removing the f2p stuff or something
 
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sörine

Banned
Nirolak said:
In additional mobile related news:

1.) The production values for Monster Strike 3DS are about 10 times higher than I was expecting: http://gematsu.com/2015/07/first-look-monster-strike-3ds-game

2.) Monster Gate (Sega's aesthetic Monster Hunter knock-off) is still performing very well by Sega standards and getting a decent way up the top 20.
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Monster Gate? I thought that was an early 00s arcade Konami roguelike? Does Sega's game really have the same name?
 
Z

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
Nirolak said:
In additional mobile related news:

1.) The production values for Monster Strike 3DS are about 10 times higher than I was expecting: http://gematsu.com/2015/07/first-look-monster-strike-3ds-game

2.) Monster Gate (Sega's aesthetic Monster Hunter knock-off) is still performing very well by Sega standards and getting a decent way up the top 20.
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Wow, those Monster Strike production values look awesome! Cool to see.

Waluigilicious said:
Any comparisons of gamecube v wii u?
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I'm sure others have the actual #s, but it was like

GC >>> Wii U > PS4 in the same timeframe. (GC's LTD was 4M).
 
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Ōkami

Member
hiska-kun said:
[3DS] Tobidasu! Nyanko Daisensou - 97.189 (100%)
[WIU] Splatoon - 19.981 (5,8%)
[PS3] Minecraft - 9.362 (100%)
[PSV] Shiren the Wanderer 5 Plus - 8.799 (28,5%)
[3DS] Hako Boy - 8.164 (91,9%)
[3DS] Rhythm Heaven the Best+ - 7.163 (3,1%)
[PS4] Devil May Cry 4: Special Edition - 7.047 (18,6%)
[PS4] The Witcher 3 - 6.978 (13,2%)
[PSV] Minecraft - 6.931 (15,4%)
[PS4] Natsuiro High School - 3.546 (19,9%)
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What happened here, weren't we expecting like 60k?
 
M

marc^o^

Nintendo's Pro Bono PR Firm
hiska-kun said:
[3DS] Tobidasu! Nyanko Daisensou - 97.189 (100%)
[WIU] Splatoon - 19.981 (5,8%)
[PS3] Minecraft - 9.362 (100%)
[PSV] Shiren the Wanderer 5 Plus - 8.799 (28,5%)
[3DS] Hako Boy - 8.164 (91,9%)
[3DS] Rhythm Heaven the Best+ - 7.163 (3,1%)
[PS4] Devil May Cry 4: Special Edition - 7.047 (18,6%)
[PS4] The Witcher 3 - 6.978 (13,2%)
[PSV] Minecraft - 6.931 (15,4%)
[PS4] Natsuiro High School - 3.546 (19,9%)
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Is that for a week?
 
Z

ZhugeEX

Banned
madstarr12 said:
Wonder which version of Dragon Quest XI will get most of the marketing. 3DS version seems like to more obvious choice since that'll easily be a multimillion seller (2+ million, 3.5 million likely). I don't see the PS4 version selling more than 2 million, but maybe SE will wanna try to sell the PS4 version as much as possible since it'll be the most costly one to develop, so marketing for that one may be higher in comparison to the 3DS version.
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The PS4 has to sell 2 million first ya know.
 
C

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Nirolak said:
In additional mobile related news:

1.) The production values for Monster Strike 3DS are about 10 times higher than I was expecting: http://gematsu.com/2015/07/first-look-monster-strike-3ds-game

2.) Monster Gear (Sega's aesthetic Monster Hunter knock-off) is still performing very well by Sega standards and getting a decent way up the top 20.
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Bad and basic looking 3D graphics and using FMV scenes from the anime doesnt look like higher(er) production values to me - unless you are seeing something i dont. Hard to tell anyway from the screenshots - we should get a trailer soon.
 
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Arzehn

Member
cw_sasuke said:
Bad and basic looking 3D graphics and using FMV scenes from the anime doesnt look like higher(er) production values to me - unless you are seeing something i dont. Hard to tell anyway from the screenshots - we should get a trailer soon.
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Yeah I'm not seeing it either. All of the artwork has just been taken from the trailer/anime, none of it is unique and we're left with 2 screenshot that look incredibly bland.

Also noticed Minecraft is out of top 10 (for the first time?).
 
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Game Guru

Member
Vena said:
Rather than trying to be all about the boogeyman, let's just look at the situation.

DQXI will most certainly help the PS4 and help it reach a better base for its other incoming titles to sell to, and DQXI will likely be the PS4s top selling release this gen (and may or may not outsell MK8, depending on marketing and release date... as I don't see DQXI getting a near 50% attach ratio on the PS4). This was no doubt part of SEs goal as they try to grow one base while serving another, and opening up western possibilities. However, we have to consider what has changed from when we had thought this was a PS3/PS4 title to now where it is actually a PS4/3DS title with differences in presentation but identical story structure.

The former, the PS3/PS4, would have helped the PS4 considerably more with a proper push because (a.) the PS3 has a decaying active consumer base, (b.) the PS4 is a natural upgrade path, and (c.) the enormous handheld base wasn't given an easy-out. So it would have been a good way to usher forward PS3 users into the PS4 and also snare handheld users with a must-have franchise. But, now that that isn't the case, we're actually looking at a scenario that will more closely resemble Smash and what happened with it. For whatever bells and whistles you might attach to one version over the other, the majority of the base is content with just playing the handheld version which better suits their lifestyle/gaming preference and also is content with not spending 30-40,000 Yen on another console for a game they already have access to and, for the most part, will get the same experience and story regardless. (However, on this point, read further down about what the DQH split also tells us, so its not quite clear cut how good/bad this move is for the PS4 at the end of the day.)

SE was in no position to put the title solely on the Playstation ecosystem it would seem, which largely seems to be about engine availability and limitations therein, as UE4 cannot run on PS3 or Vita, and they likely do not want to use or build any engine that can do it for all those platforms... so Phyre. In stead they elected, to serve a safe and large audience, to put it on the 3DS as well with version that, while not graphically capable, may actually end up being the more unique offering which... will entirely now come down to subjective views and nostalgia hooks. The 3DS version also demands considerable investment (aside from reusing assets) since it needs a dedicated engine and toolset for its games. I would not be surprised if we found out that Nintendo helped on the backend of making the development process for the 3DS version easier with engine tools already made for Smash/MH to truly push the system.

In the scenario of DQH, the PS4 version was 100% better in all ways, that is now no longer the case as unique features have been introduced. The DQH PS4 title also had a bundle to push it and heavy marketing targeting it. To some degree this shows that the consumer base will avoid adoption irregardless of the marketing and settle for what they have. And this was in a scenario where one version is objectively superior. If they had elected for a PS3/PS4 DQXI, we may have seen a similar scenario from the PS3 base. Its also highly possible that the successes of DQH were not what had been expected/hoped for, and that the 3DS version came into play later as the PS4 just couldn't gather the steam needed to justify a Playstation-only title. This is hard to say.

Given the above, I think that with the current release plans, we will see the last remnants of the active PS3 base/the Playstation old-gen base upgrading to the PS4 (I question how many will even be left by the time DQXI comes out) without given them an easy out. But, the change in platform expectations has given the handheld active consumer base (which is much larger than the PS3's active base) a reason to not need to buy a console at all. This leads to the Smash 3DS/WiiU split scenario where any real cross-over or double-dipping will be minor and the majority of the sales in either case will be to owners of the systems already.

So, as I said before, I think this will be a Smash-like split with a couple of caveats that may change things for better or worse ratios: when is the NX coming and out and when is the game launching? What version is the NX getting? Will the release really be simultaneous?
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The way I see it, if Nintendo isn't already talking to Epic Games and being like... "Look, we want UE4 working on our NX ecosystem... We will be willing to help you in any way we can to achieve full compatibility and support for UE4 on our system. We want it to be a proper version that works on at least our next handheld. We, as Nintendo, will never use it, but we understand that our third-party partners love it." then they are making a huge mistake.
 
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KillerMan91

Member
After looking at that chart I suddenly realized that there is starting to be pretty big difference between MC and Famitsu regarding of PS4. Other has 1.63 million and the other 1.53 million. With MC numbers PS4 is starting to close in WiiUs pace.
 
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ZhugeEX

Banned
KillerMan91 said:
After looking at that chart I suddenly realized that there is starting to be pretty big difference between MC and Famitsu regarding of PS4. Other has 1.63 million and the other 1.53 million. With MC numbers PS4 is starting to close WiiUs pace.
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Famitsu tracks digitally downloaded consoles.

Vena said:
Nonsense. Just buy the game without the console. Spin it on your finger and use your imagination.
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I got a disc read error. :(
 
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