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[RalchAC]

PS4 will be languishing all the way till end of the year, is my guess.

2015 is the year it needs to save itself.

Yeah, IMO they are probably getting ready to re-launch the system during early 2015 (starting with Bloodborne, a first wave of multiplatform games and HSG). This Christmas is already a lost cause. They'll market Destiny, DriveClub and God Eater 2 Rage Burst but they won't try anything impresive.

 

[Pennywise83]

Interesting comparison and nice hypothesis. That might the case since this difference is ain't normal unless they tracked very different kind of stores in very different area.

But then this kind of differences should show up on a weekly basis; it's not that they change sample so often. And also if they have different representative samples, they of course make estimations according to the characteristics of the population of reference.

 

[StormKing]

Media Create:
Toukiden: 79.384
Love Live: 59.710
Wii U: 8.584

Famitsu:
Toukiden: 100.073
Love Live: 88.169
Wii U: 6.237

So does one of these have like a more family friendly and/or a more niche retailer in their data provider list versus the other?

Directly from Wikipedia, "Nintendo cites Media Create sales data during its conferences and presentations." The source is from the 2008 Nintendo fall conference.

 

[Parakeetman]

Neptunia U is highly amusing and damned nicely animated too.

Man the Cross Blood numbers are pretty low though, but guess it can be expected when the game was released multiple times now.

The new Toukiden is pretty enjoyable. but man I can see folks just totally cheesing bosses to death with the gun + bullets that slow down the enemy when shot charged. Since it even stops pretty much any motions including attacks keeping them in place. I so know its going to be nerfed to shit lol

 

[Imouto]

You aren't implying the game is bad, right? Just that it's a hunting game and that trend is quite normal

After seeing this numbers I repeat what I've already said. They should try to sell the expansions at a cheaper price to people that owns the original game...

I'm implying that it's an "upgrade" version, which always have less sale than previous title. Yeah, they should have upgrading program for people with previous game.

 

[Jucksalbe]

So will we see the XBox One at #1 next week? Surely at launch it can do more than ~20000. 3DS will most likely have a huge drop anyway.

 

[duckroll]

Isn't Famitsu also tracking digital download number? Could it be that?

No, that's a different thing entirely. These are retail sales.

I'm implying that it's an "upgrade" version, which always have less sale than previous title. Yeah, they should have upgrading program for people with previous game.

Not always, and not by this large of a drop usually. The upgrade versions are always a good indication of how much fans liked the first game, because if they really liked it most of them would upgrade. That's how sales have traditionally shown. Even when there is a drop off, it is generally fairly small, especially for first week sales, because those are the most hardcore fans buying it.

 

[Foshy]

Isn't Famitsu also tracking digital download number? Could it be that?

No.

 

[zeromcd73]

Yeah, IMO they are probably getting ready to re-launch the system during early 2015 (starting with Bloodborne, a first wave of multiplatform games and HSG). This Christmas is already a lost cause. They'll market Destiny, DriveClub and God Eater 2 Rage Burst but they won't try anything impresive.

Sorry, I heard in the other mediacreate thread that God Eater 2 Burst was coming this year, but I can't find this information anywhere.

http://blog.hokanko-alt.com/archives/40623884.html
Release date is undecided with no launch year. Will be playable and have more information on the title at TGS 2014.

Edit: Famitsu also doesn't say anything about 2014 other than more info at TGS

 

[allan-bh]

Let's wait Dengeki numbers.

 

[Shengar]

But then this kind of differences should show up on a weekly basis; it's not that they change sample so often. And also if they have different representative samples, they of course make estimations according to the characteristics of the population of reference.

Then, what is the better explanation for such big difference? Please remind me if there is any difference between Media Create and Famitsu on what they put into account as sell (like download card, don't remember which one tracks it).

Neptunia U is highly amusing and damned nicely animated too.

Man the Cross Blood numbers are pretty low though, but guess it can be expected when the game was released multiple times now.

How about Toukiden Kiwami?

 

[phanphare]

Almost a month.

This is its third week.

However, it's actually over 100,000 units sold, according to Famitsu.

well then....

 

[Sitrus]

Neptunia U is highly amusing and damned nicely animated too.

Man the Cross Blood numbers are pretty low though, but guess it can be expected when the game was released multiple times now.

Neptunia U is a lot more fun to play than I thought it would be. And as you said. it's gorgeously animated on the Vita screen

 

[Lexxism]

So will we see the XBox One at #1 next week? Surely at launch it can do more than ~20000. 3DS will most likely have a huge drop anyway.

If it will sell around 35000 by next week, yeah why not. I still think 3DS will stay in 30000 mark.

 

[Imouto]

Neptunia U is a lot more fun to play than I thought it would be. And as you said. it's gorgeously animated on the Vita screen

Is there an impression anywhere on GAF? I'm still deciding should I wait for localization or should I just import it.

 

[Tempy]

Extra evil: The Love Live games have limited editions as well, with different figures.

I can see some people being compelled to buy all three ^_^;

 

[hiska-kun]

Famitsu Top 10 3DS

01. [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800) - 4.430.863
02. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 4.171.720
03. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 # <ACT> (Capcom) {2013.09.14} (¥5.990) - 3.521.573
04. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch 2: Ganso / Honke <RPG> (Level 5) {2014.07.10} (¥4.937) - 2.321.463
05. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 2.301.652
06. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800) - 2.290.720
07. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800) - 1.999.011
08. [3DS] Tomodachi Life # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.04.18} (¥4.800) - 1.657.909
09. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (¥5.800) - 1.589.804
10. [3DS] Puzzle & Dragons Z <RPG> (GungHo Online Entertainment) {2013.12.12} (¥4.400) - 1.432.423

*Notes: last LTD known. Digital not included

 

[Imouto]

Extra evil: The Love Live games have limited editions as well, with different figures.

The true evil is the act of separating Nozomi and Eri into 2 different versions.

 

[Parakeetman]

Then, what is the better explanation for such big difference? Please remind me if there is any difference between Media Create and Famitsu on what they put into account as sell (like download card, don't remember which one tracks it).


How about Toukiden Kiwami?

look at the edited post.

Neptunia U is a lot more fun to play than I thought it would be. And as you said. it's gorgeously animated on the Vita screen

Im disappointed by famitsus move set, even more so when put into comparison with dengekiko and her misaka impression super

 

[-Horizon-]

It's up to PS4/PSV to save Senran Kagura now!

I don't want this series to die. I believe in you Sony consoles. You are our only hope.

 

[Nightengale]

The true evil is the act of separating Nozomi and Eri into 2 different versions.

Nozomi, Eri and Nico in one package would be too overpowered.

 

[duckroll]

Regarding the discussion about expansion re-releases for co-op multiplayer games on portables, I've put together a comparison of first week sales from some other series (Media Create numbers):

Monster Hunter Portable 2nd - 705,281
Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G - 880,468

God Eater - 295,405
God Eater Burst - 263,150

Phantasy Star Portable 2 - 286,896
Phantasy Star Portable 2 Infinity - 206,654

Soul Sacrifice - 92,396
Soul Sacrifice Delta - 48,786

 

[Takao]

Medarot had a run.

 

[zeromcd73]

Nozomi, Eri and Kotori in one package would be too overpowered.

FTFY
You're damn right.

Edit:
Famitsu - Xbox 360: 66
Media create - Xbox 360: 86

= 666

RIP in peace Xbox One launch.

 

[Palette Swap]

7 games > 20k is a good week softwarewise.

And well, MasouKishin F cratered to hell. Great job not putting it on Vita.

 

[Mpl90]

Comgnet retail chain: preorder stats / comparisons, as of September 3rd, 2014

[3DS] Monster Hunter 3G - 363pt + 220pt = 583pt*
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 - 2214pt
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4G - 1253pt

[Wii] Super Smash Bros. Brawl - 1226pt**
[3DS] Puzzle & Dragons Z - 559pt
[3DS] Yokai Watch 2 - 588pt + 455pt = 1,043pt
[3DS] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS - 709pt

[Wii] Dragon Quest X: Nemureru Yuusha to Michibiki no Meiyuu Online - 96pt
[WiiU] Dragon Quest X: Nemureru Yuusha to Michibiki no Meiyuu Online - 59pt
[3DS] Dragon Quest X Online - 42pt

[PS4] Watch Dogs - 28pt
[PS4] Destiny - 40pt

[PS3] Kingdom Hearts 1.5 Remix - 66pt
[PS3] Kingdom Hearts 2.5 Remix - 29pt

[PS3] Destiny - 25pt

[PS3] Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm Generations - 54pt*
[PS3] Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 3 - 64pt
[PS3] Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm Revolution - 26pt

[WiiU] Super Smash Bros. for Wii U - 25pt

* = Comg preorder pts from 2011/2012
** = Comg preorder pts up to 2010

Note: Comgnet's ratio between actual sales and pts has grown overall in the past year / years, and older preorder points are not as reliable for comparisons as most recent ones, especially if they are from years and years ago

 

[Zhao_Yun]

It's up to PS4/PSV to save Senran Kagura now!

How did Shinovi Versus do compared to the 3DS titles?

Comgnet retail chain: preorder stats / comparisons, as of September 3rd, 2014

Why are there no numbers for Bayonetta 2?

 

[Shengar]

look at the edited post.

Thank you :3
The lack of impression disturb me greatly

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

XB1 launches today in JP right? We need pics

 

[WhiskerFrisker]

Media Create Sales: Week 35, 2014 (Aug 25 - Aug 31)
02./00. [PSV] Toukiden: The Age of Demons Extreme # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2014.08.28} (¥6.264) - 79.384 / NEW
09./00. [PSP] Toukiden: The Age of Demons Extreme # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2014.08.28} (¥5.184) - 11.026 / NEW

Hopefully devs can drop their support for the PSP and just focus on the Vita and whichever console they decide to make their games for.

 

[Parakeetman]

Thank you :3
The lack of impression disturb me greatly

Considering that everyone got interested in it from the US version its no surprise that there wouldnt really be import impressions.

I dont have time to do up info dumps on various shit anyways outside of the few OTs that I run.

 

[-Horizon-]

How did Shinovi Versus do compared to the 3DS titles?

Much better.

 

[Mpl90]

7 games > 20k is a good week softwarewise.

And well, MasouKishin F cratered to hell. Great job not putting it on Vita.

Yep, you're right (Famitsu)

01./00. [PS3] Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin III - Pride of Justice <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.08.22} (¥7.480) - 37.266 / NEW <40-60%>
05./00. [PSV] Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin III - Pride of Justice <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.08.22} (¥6.480) - 18.356 / NEW <40-60%>

07./00. [PS3] Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin F - Coffin of the End # <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.08.28} (¥7.690) - 28.681 / NEW <60-80%>

You can definitely tell this is the final nail in the coffin for the Masou Kishin saga.

 

[Scum]

We were discussing about that just recently. It depends on how much legs the game will have in the following months. YW2 is still selling incredibly well, and it needs something like 39k on a weekly basis to reach the 3m mark before the year ends. It might sell less than that in September / October, but surely it will increase during holidays.

39k a week. I see. Either way, congrats to Level5.

 

[Atram]

XB1 launches today in JP right? We need pics

I think it will be like this release

 

[hiska-kun]

XB1 launches today in JP right? We need pics

Tomorrow. One day left:

The calm before the storm...

Pre-orders for Dragon Quest X 3DS were closed already in Yodabashi Camera (&#32066;&#20102

Bloodborne's pre-orders begin in Japan:

Destiny is being pushed hard:

A little more than a month for Monster Hunter 4G:

 

[Mpl90]

How did Shinovi Versus do compared to the 3DS titles?



Why are there no numbers for Bayonetta 2?

The 20th title is at 19pt and, well, Bayonetta 2 isn't there yet ;__;

Hopefully, it'll appear in the next few days, and start gaining as much pts as possible.

 

[Imouto]

You can definitely tell this is the final nail in the coffin for the Masou Kishin saga.

It's the end of the series anyway. You can tell from how they are rushing to wrap up the story, leaving several parts unresolved.

 

[Nightengale]

Destiny is being pushed hard

That 70s style sharp sci-fi font is really attractive.

 

[-Horizon-]

I think it will be like this release

We need a gif that zooms in on his face.

 

[WhiskerFrisker]

Comgnet retail chain: preorder stats / comparisons, as of September 3rd, 2014


[PS3] Kingdom Hearts 1.5 Remix - 66pt
[PS3] Kingdom Hearts 2.5 Remix - 29pt

Can someone explain the reason for this difference? The Japanese didn't find Kingdom Hearts appealing? Or is this part of the decline of PS3 sales?

 

[Miles X]

The 20th title is at 19pt and, well, Bayonetta 2 isn't there yet ;__;

Hopefully, it'll appear in the next few days, and start gaining as much pts as possible.

What kind of launch week are you realistically expecting?

 

[Guymelef]

Not a single XBO game on Comgnet ranking?
Does it track unreleased consoles?

 

[jakncoke]

I wonder if Bayonetta 2 can beat Bayonetta 360 first week (66211)

 

[Raw64life]

The calm before the storm...

I would love to see a time lapse video of this picture throughout the day tomorrow.

 

[Atram]

I would love to see a time lapse video of this picture throughout the day tomorrow.

You are already looking at it

 

[Kresnik258]

Not a single XBO game on Comgnet ranking?
Does it track unreleased consoles?

Of course. You can pre-order games on an unreleased console just like you can a released console.

 

[RPGamer92]

How hilarious would it be if XB1 actually sold really well in Japan?

 

[Smiles and Cries]

14./06. [WIU] Hyrule Warriors # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2014.08.14} (¥7.980) - 7.648 / 91.880 (-49%)

ha not so bad as I was expecting home it can stick around a bit more and reach at least 150k

the western sales is when I'm going to lose my shit if it does not sell

give me DLC too

 

[Nightengale]

How hilarious would it be if XB1 actually sold really well in Japan?

But it won't.