Nah, last time was around 130K.
Now maybe it is at 150K (not counting digital sales) ...
P4G will be the first Vita game to cross the 200K barrier (at retail).
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Media Create Sales: Week 43, 2012 (Oct 22 - Oct 28)
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Now maybe it is at 150K (not counting digital sales) ...
P4G will be the first Vita game to cross the 200K barrier (at retail).
Reading comprehension, do you need it?
metalslimer
Member
But it's not the first time a Vita game has charted in its first week? But thanks for the nonanswer.
If you read his entire sentence, I think his point is that this is the first time a Vita game charted and hardware sales still went down.
Dr. Feel Good
Banned
Yeah, I read it as the same as you. No idea what he's talking about.
I Stalk Alone
Member
Replace and with where and maybe it might make sense for the others even if it already made sense before.
decoyplatypus
Member
You guys are either mentally inserting a comma where there isn't one or mistaking his emphasis. He's talking about a compound event (vita game charts AND hardware sales go down), not two separate events in sequence ("this is the first a Vita game charted in its first week . . . oh, and Vita sales went down").
Dr. Feel Good
Banned
The emphasis should be on the AND not on the DOWN. But whatever, got it now. Interesting fact either way, but like the OP said, SFvT is basically nothing.
metalslimer
Member
Ah okay gotcha.
ShockingAlberto
Member
SFxT actually might be the worst series of decisions Capcom has made in more than a decade.
The only thing they can do in order to repair to this is announcing Tatsunoko v.s. Capcom 2 on 3DS RIGHT NOW!!!
Seriously, I think it's time for 3DS to see some other fighting game from Capcom, at least
It's certainly one of the most mishandled events in video game history.
SF had a renaissance. Tekken was always popular. Capcom has a great track record with crossovers. What could possibly go wrong?
everything.
chertipros
Member
I doubt they still have the license
ShockingAlberto
Member
I'd really love someone to spill the beans on everything that happened. We can make educated guesses (Sony moneyhats, executive meddling, pressure to make the game more casual-friendly long after the game design was etched in concrete, heavy push for DLC), but I'm eager for whoever Capcom marginalizes or fires for this catastrophe going to 4Gamer or something and just telling everything.
This is the one "big" game on the Vita where the game itself is more of a barrier to sales then the platform. It's a game with a ton of negative word of mouth coming out months later.
Though this version is special in that it is seen by many as the scapegoat for a lot of SvT's troubles regarding the DLC.
Though this version is special in that it is seen by many as the scapegoat for a lot of SvT's troubles regarding the DLC.
That doesn't really happen in the Japanese video game industry. Or at least, I can't remember any stories about development problems from Japanese devs unless the studio was shut down or something.
ShockingAlberto
Member
The last time I can remember anything like that was when Inafune left.
I'm hoping maybe it happens again, because someone is clearly going to either lose their job or be shoved in to a dark corner over this debacle.
My body is ready.
On a side note, Sony couldn't be more incompetent. The state the Vita is in, there were so many warning signs, and they had their chances to correct things, but they just decided to ignore all of it. Unless we're all proven wrong and Sony is cooking some major turnaround somehow, i can say they have absolutely no idea what they're doing.
It looks to me like the worst driven system in the history of video games, coming from a well known and previously very successful company. Even Sega was better than this, although they paid a bigger price. Basically what Sony would have to do if it wasn't such a huge company.
Anyway, hats off to Bravely Default. The game seems incredible and i'm glad it's having great legs. NSMB2 is selling okay i guess, for an entry nobody had that much faith in after seeing the first week.
Always gotta love Dark Souls, good numbers for a re-release with some extra content. By the way, can the dlc be bought separately?
Question- Are people more skeptical/doubtful of PS4's success (worldwide, but focused on Japan) because of Vita's failure, or do you think they are 2 completely different scenarios that have nothing to do with each other?
Myself, I would say a bit of both. PS4 is guaranteed to be healthier than Vita because of the West, but I would be lying if I said I do not wonder a little bit about Sony's overall competence right now.
Myself, I would say a bit of both. PS4 is guaranteed to be healthier than Vita because of the West, but I would be lying if I said I do not wonder a little bit about Sony's overall competence right now.
MaxwellGT2000
Member
whoa that's some low Vita sales and that's with it having some top 20 games... craaaaazy, Sony really has to do something with Vita in Japan.I am loving Bravely Default numbers, as a fan of Matrix Software and Final Fantasy 4 Heroes of Light, I'm really glad to see it succeed without the Final Fantasy name, and now I can't wait for it to hit the states.
Cerebral Assassin
Member
From a quality point of view I think that would be shutting Clover, but financially I suppose this is much worse.
All Sony have to do is be close enough to Durango to ensure 3rd party support & the PS4 will be fine.
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
I'm on the same as VITA camp, because, if you want a console to play western games, there is already the Xbox, and Japan seems to be Nintendo land at the moment. Better than VITA, but much worse than PS3.
Father_Brain
Banned
In the West, possibly. In Japan, quite possibly not, if Wii U gets the big multiplatform games as well.
That's a pretty big "if," mind you.
I have mixed feelings about it. To me, handheld and home consoles don't mix. So I'd say, with how Sony's support of PS3 has been the last few years, I'd say they have a good chance of not falling off a cliff with PS4.
Then I look at Vita, and I just don't know what to think anymore
metalslimer
Member
In regards to Japan, I feel really skeptical of PS4's success. Sony's going to be launching an expensive machine with a lack of first party sellers in the region at a time when many Japanese publishers probably will continue to make games for the PS3. Sure FF, Metal Gear, etc. will go to the platform, but if Sony wants to try to rely on those kind of games to sell the system I think they will be in big trouble. Combine this with console decline, and I could see PS4 failing to really take off. This doesn't mean I think it will pull a Vita, but if I had to make a guess about how much the PS4 would sell it's first year it would not be a particularly great number.
Theoeretically what would people even be expecting for big japanese games in the first year for the PS3?
Namco- possibly a Tales game?
Square- unless they move vs over quickly, I can't see them having any thing big for the platform for at least a few years
Konami- New Metal Gear is PS3/360 so no.
Sega- lol
Capcom- RE6 just released, so no on that front. MH seems to be on Nintendo platforms now. Fighting game genre is in the dumps
In the west this is a completely different story, but I really don't see the situation being very good in the first year or two. Sony's biggest problem in Japan is how dead their first party games are. In the west, Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch, Media Molecule, Guerilla, etc. are working on games for the PS4, but I can't think of anything that would get the ball rolling from them in Japan.
Just to be sure, you know that matrix didn't develope BD.
I am loving Bravely Default numbers, as a fan of Matrix Software and Final Fantasy 4 Heroes of Light, I'm really glad to see it succeed without the Final Fantasy name, and now I can't wait for it to hit the states.
test_account
XP-39C²
Yeah, that is the whole entertainment division
I dont remember when Sony started reported everything under one, but i think they reported the Playstation division on its own before. But at least they still give some split on the division.Console wise, Japan is PS3 land at the moment.
Dr.Palutena
Member
While Sony is on egg shells right now and I can see many ways they can make a misstep with it, I think PS4 is guaranteed to be ok provided it can be close to Xbox 3 and nothing happens with consoles as a medium next gen.
Cerebral Assassin
Member
It's not even getting the multi-platform titles that are coming to the 360/PS3, I don't think there is a hope of getting many of the next gen titles(outside of the Fifa's of this world).
ShockingAlberto
Member
Yeah. If Sony is aiming for PS3 parity next-gen, then they have nothing to fear. Simply being XBox 3 adjacent is enough to keep them at the table.
If they have anything to truly fear (by which I mean, something that would actually kill the PS4), it would be that the market rejects new consoles in general and not just the PS4. Not that I expect this to happen, but it is a danger Sony should be considering.
This all assumes, of course, they don't go dumbfuck crazy again and price it at $700 or make it difficult to port to.
If they have anything to truly fear (by which I mean, something that would actually kill the PS4), it would be that the market rejects new consoles in general and not just the PS4. Not that I expect this to happen, but it is a danger Sony should be considering.
This all assumes, of course, they don't go dumbfuck crazy again and price it at $700 or make it difficult to port to.
grimshawish
Banned
If Sony are sensible they should be fine, invest and help Japanese devs; even sending their teams over to help them.
If they don't I think Nintendo will move in on them.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
I don't think they should get out of the genre, but they should definitely lay off on annual releases of different IPs and stuck to title updates. There's way too many different good fighting games on the market now, and I feel the FGC has this weird "gotta play them all" mentality with them. The market is also a fixed size and hasn't really grown since SF4 got released.
AranhaHunter
Banned
I have mentioned before that, unless Sony buys a majority share in a major JP developer and/or buy some big name JP centric IPs, the PS4 is in jeopardy in Japan as well. Sony has no big JP selling IPs anymore outside of Gran Turismo and that's in major decline with GT5 failing to reach 1 million for the first time in franchise history.
The WiiU is already getting a main MH and a main DQ, albeit ports, but it's a good sign for prospective customers. Unless something changes, I see FFvXIII (if no prohibitive contracts are in place) or FFXV and subsequent FF games going to WiiU, possibly exclusive. There have been hints of RE going to WiiU, other big JP games like MGS, Yakuza, etc will be sure to follow. If Disney doesn't take it and KH franchise stays with SE, then the WiiU will possibly get the next main game as well.
ShockingAlberto
Member
To a large degree, I think SFxT was their attempt to grow the market. It just failed miserably at it.
metalslimer
Member
lol come on. And if Capcom makes a RE game for Wii U it will be a late RE6 port that no one cares about. My whole point was that the time it takes to make these games put PS4 in a precarious position, not that Wii U getting a bunch of exclusives will actually happen.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Maybe a Rival Schools port, but I don't want a sequel to Tatsunoko vs Capcom on hardware that can't do it justice.
On a side note, what's keeping DQVII from hitting PSN?
slaughterking
Member
It's hard to say; especially without knowing what Sony's plans are for the PS4, but the home console market already lost a lot of marketshare to the handhelds and Sony in particular lost marketshare with the PS3 to Nintendo and the Wii in addition to that. Sony is already in a less than ideal position even without the bad stigma of the Vita. So if Nintendo makes good use of the headstart they get with the WiiU, I could potentially see the noose slowly tightening around the PS4.
That's strictly talking about Japan.
Cerebral Assassin
Member
Outside of Yakuza, DQ & MH all the other games you mentioned sell more in the west, I don't think any of the companies involved will allow them to fall behind in terms of mindshare in the west(which will mean being on Durango/PS4), so I don't see any chance of FF going WiiU exclusive (unless it is in a FF:CC sort of spinoff).
AranhaHunter
Banned
If I said 18 months ago that MH was gonna be moved from PSP to 3DS and 3DS was going to have the franchise exclusively, that would have been a ridiculous assertion wouldn't it?
If, more like when, FFXIV 2.0 releases and bombs on PS3, I can see SE reassessing the franchise while the brand still has some value.
FF is a series in decline. FFXIII-2 bombed everywhere. I can see them focusing on one platform to revive the franchise.
RE, MGS, yeah, those probably won't be exclusive to anything.
The majority of people thought it would have been a PSP/PSV dual release like GE2 is getting. Very few people believed MH would go to 3DS prior to that leak.
metalslimer
Member
Uh no it wouldn't be ridiculous because MH would have probably been on the DS if it could run it. The only reason I didn't think it might happen was because of the lack of a 2nd analog.
The PS3 is not the root cause of why FF is failing. If they release more shitty games that no one wants even on Wii U it will still bomb.
SolarPowered
Member
Is there anything that even comes close since 2002?
I think Vita's failure is money that could be used on the PS4. That is about it.
metalslimer
Member
Losing Mikami and Kamiya
Father_Brain
Banned
I'm talking about Japan, though. What major Japanese multiplatform titles do we know of that Wii U isn't getting? RE6, at least this year, but what else?
slaughterking
Member
Ground Zeroes, Rising, Dynasty Warriors 7, Yakuza 5, Lightning Returns just off the top of my head.
Cerebral Assassin
Member
All of them, what multi-platform titles have been announced for it? Remember Me won't be coming(I believe Capcom have stated that, butI'm not sure if that is in-house or not).