Stone Ocean
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Media Create Sales: Week 51, 2015 (Dec 14 - Dec 20)
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Honestly outside of FFXV and Persona, all the other game you cited won't do much in Japan.
It will be higher. Only stock problems can stop that goal (and unfortunatly probably they will).
Asia's still a drop in the bucket compared to Japan. It's an ecouraging growth market and Koei's definitely taking a lead position in capitalizing on that, but there's pretty much no way it's coming anywhere close to making up for the Japanese decline we've been seeing for franchises like Musou. Koei Tecmo's own numbers:
1H FY2016
74.9% Japan
10.5% North America
6.2% Europe
8.4% Asia
Not to jump on you in particular but inflating the significance and contribution of Asian sales, with precious little in the way of real numbers to back it up, is a trend I've been seeing in this thread and sales threads in general. Same with the nebulous "ROTW", I feel like we should probably be more careful with these sorts of assumptions when they usually lack any hard data.
Pennywise83
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I'm not so sure. FF will give the usual boost during the opening week, with some leftover the subsequent weeks. Those games, on the other hand, will allow the platform to keep a good weekly baseline, if released in a reasonable way so that there are no line-up holes. After all, if you don't have mass-market appeal games, what you can hope at most is performing similarly to PS3 and those games - coupled with some big release every 4-5 months - should serve the purpose.
Judas Code was a bigger bomba than both, though.
So, what we can expect? Maybe 90/95k?
OfficerRaichu15
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Maybe Nintendo stealth launches a Minecraft bundle 
I'm kidding
2015 H1 is stronger from 2016 H1 for PS4 releases and when Sony stayed out of new titles for a few months they started giving Bloodborne for free before they give the real price cut.
Better scheduling at second half will make things look better but only a big title will make the difference.
That Nintendo holiday magic surely didn't work last year.
DannyDanger
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Alot of the bigger western games seem to be doing well in Japan
Wasn't counting that one, but yeah, hopefully Star Ocean 5 does well for them.
OfficerRaichu15
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Didn't help last year with smash, toad, and the legs of kart...
I think next year will be better for the ps4, but people tend to overstimate next year games, while understimating the effect that games that launched this year had. MGS5, DQH, Bloodborne... All of those games had a nice effect on PS4 hw and made the console more attractive for the japanese. When people talk about stuff like persona, sfv and uncharted, i can't see them having a much higher effect than what those games already had.
Of course, big stuff like FFXV, KH3 and so would drive sales a lot.
And Sorine, i'm surprised that asia is just this, since i've seem here people saying how musou games are worth because of asia in a whole. Asia numbers are quite nebulous indeed, but if this is true, i think koei is in a mess. Musou keeps selling less and less and after that Aslam game even their colaborations seems like a no go. At least they are trying to diversify a little more by putting those games on steam. It makes me thinking about the reason that they stopped doing ports for the wiiu. It's not like their games were selling much less than they are already selling elsewhere.
Of course, big stuff like FFXV, KH3 and so would drive sales a lot.
And Sorine, i'm surprised that asia is just this, since i've seem here people saying how musou games are worth because of asia in a whole. Asia numbers are quite nebulous indeed, but if this is true, i think koei is in a mess. Musou keeps selling less and less and after that Aslam game even their colaborations seems like a no go. At least they are trying to diversify a little more by putting those games on steam. It makes me thinking about the reason that they stopped doing ports for the wiiu. It's not like their games were selling much less than they are already selling elsewhere.
LegendofDragoonLives
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+76% for Splatoon, fucking wow. I hope the NX will be noticably more successful than the Irrelevant U and that Splatoon 2 benefits greatly from it. If it has a 30-50% raise from the original, it`ll turn into one of Nintendo`s biggest IPs.
Why is PS4 selling so high compared to previous months, just because it's December?
Why is PS4 selling so high compared to previous months, just because it's December?
DQXI and FFVII which is probably a 2017 title as well.
So yeah, as said on the first page 3DS will definitely reach 20m this year, and without Week 53 actually.
Also realised that the "split" is pretty good for sales this year, with Christmas/New Year.
Week 52 has 4 days before Christmas, and sales are pretty strong during those.
Week 53 has 3 strong days with New Year. Should help avoid any major drop in sales between Christmas/New Year.
Also realised that the "split" is pretty good for sales this year, with Christmas/New Year.
Week 52 has 4 days before Christmas, and sales are pretty strong during those.
Week 53 has 3 strong days with New Year. Should help avoid any major drop in sales between Christmas/New Year.
kuroneko0509
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but will those move the hardware sales much?
Mato
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I agree with you, I'm not voicing a complain. Just noting the weird situation they are in. If the system was selling for a lower price it would be ok. All systems sell for a discount when they are nearing the end of their lifetime. But Wii U is still selling for a high price and I'm not sure it is justified considering they are about to retire it.
For next week YSO predictions are rising.
Or take a look at 2009 to see how sales increase or decrease.
Or take a look at 2009 to see how sales increase or decrease.
Now we know what those strong, muscular legs are for.
HOLIDAYS SALES SO FAR ( 2 WEEKS LEFT)
[PS4] 240,000
[WIU] 215,000 ( fun fact, nearly 40% of those sales are sold this week)
Will be very interesting to see. Next week is a given for Wii U, even with the stock problem.
The last week of the year, usually is better for PlayStation system, but considering the gap of this week, who know, Wii U can win even the week 53...
[PS4] 240,000
[WIU] 215,000 ( fun fact, nearly 40% of those sales are sold this week)
Will be very interesting to see.
Next week is a given for Wii U, even with the stock problem.The last week of the year, usually is better for PlayStation system, but considering the gap of this week, who know, Wii U can win even the week 53...
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[img]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/BGkkR18MAtM/maxresdefault.jpg[/img]Pennywise83
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MHX likely crossed the 2.5m mark considering eShop sales. It should be at 2.8m before Week 1.
CaviarMeths
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Wii U out of stock, all according to keikaku for #FE. Following comparable hardware trajectory from 2013, 120k FW incoming.
Better to just ride out current stock at current price.
Well it's not like they're in a position to manufacture more Wii Us if they run out before NX. Production has been shut down for a couple years hasn't it? It would be very costly to put in another bulk order for new stock that may or may not sell, especially if they have to sell at a loss to do it.
Better to just ride out current stock at current price.
Suboptimal...maybe..but "scary" ? A bit dramatic xD
Dont forget that most of these IPs are represented on 3DS as well and that system is still selling way better than the other consoles. New WiiU owners are getting the system to play Splatoon and Mario Maker.
Since there are stock problem with the Splatoon bundle, looks like digital sales are gonna be insane.
again.
90% digital sale ratio confirmed?
Since there are stock problem with the Splatoon bundle, looks like digital sales are gonna be insane.
again.
It should be good for digital consoles sold next week too!!
Depends on how they shipped.
NSMBWii had stock problems in week 52 2009. The same is happening with is Splatoon this year.
The Praiseworthy
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....... I did not see this coming, I honestly expected the opening week to be around 100k... but 40k damn !
Copy from old post:
Yes, Nintendo HK (also being the distributor for Taiwan) sells MonSuto Japanese version here.
But I think it accounts for less than 5000 pcs LTD...
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And Gundam EXVS Force already at 20% discount in Amazon, maybe I can get it in bargain bin when I am having my Japan trip in Jan...
kuroneko0509
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ahh thanks... i guess i skipped your post in the old thread
That's a good point. Splatoon and SMM are the only Wii U evergreens that don't already have a 3DS counterpart available so perhaps that has something to do with their comparably sustained legs?
I wonder if this possibly bodes well for Pokken, Star Fox or Zelda? Even if none them are going to be huge sellers they at least don't have a comparable 3DS release to cannibalize them.
Devilgunman
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Holyshyte Jojo bombed. People still butthurt from micro-transaction debacle from the last game or something?
Nice numbers overall for Nintendo and Sony. Really impressed how well Splatoon, Super Mario Maker and Wii U are doing atm too bad that Wii U never got any 3:rd party support. It would have been a bit higher I think.
I wonder if Wii U will have a similar trajectory like year 2014 in 2016.
too bad that Wii U never got any 3:rd party support. It would have been a bit higher I think.I wonder if Wii U will have a similar trajectory like year 2014 in 2016.
It'll be better, but the big elephant in the room is obviously when the NX releases and how it compares to the PS4 in terms of power, features, price, and games lineup.
If I remember correctly, they shut down production after ~10 million units produced, so the stuff in stores now would have to be new units from a new production run.
Sammy Samusu
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WIU | 80.301
Canis lupus
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Why did JoJo bomb?
Pennywise83
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Yo-kai Watch Busters is the third best-selling Level-5 game in Japan:
1. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch 2: Ganso / Honke <RPG> (Level 5) {2014.07.10} (¥4.937) - 3.163.285
2. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch 2: Shin Uchi <RPG> (Level 5) {2014.12.13} (¥4.968) - 2.626.146
3. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch Busters: Red Cat Team / White Dog Squad <ACT> (Level 5) {2015.07.11} (¥4.968) - 1.860.532
It will get closer and closer to Shin Uchi; impressive for a spin-off.
1. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch 2: Ganso / Honke <RPG> (Level 5) {2014.07.10} (¥4.937) - 3.163.285
2. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch 2: Shin Uchi <RPG> (Level 5) {2014.12.13} (¥4.968) - 2.626.146
3. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch Busters: Red Cat Team / White Dog Squad <ACT> (Level 5) {2015.07.11} (¥4.968) - 1.860.532
It will get closer and closer to Shin Uchi; impressive for a spin-off.
I feel like the significance of Frozen is even more overblown than the significance of Asia when it comes to PS4.what if it has a frozen world?
Previous game was very very badly received.
I always thought that was what happened with the wiiu. 3DS is at a point where nintendo games offer the same value on both systems, so there is no need to buy a more expensive console to play games you are already served on. I don't think this is true for everything, but i think this happens quite a lot. I'm sure that if Splatoon was already on 3DS or started there, even if the wiiu version was much better, it's success would be quite small compared to what it is today.sörine;190249094 said:
I think nintendo needed to show stuff that only wiiu could do, or at least games that you couldn't have a counterpart on 3DS. A shame it took them so long.
ninjablade
Banned
Japan never ceases to amaze me in there taste in gaming.
Eolz
Member
TLG comes out in 2016 and makes an impact on PS4 sales? don't see it happening.
Splatoon digital sales were 18% by end of October.
Assuming we have the same ratio now, with 966k on Famitsu ( and even bigger on MC), should be near 1.18 million retail + digital.
...If i'm not wrong, Mario kart 8 should be over 1.20 million including digital, but i don't know the exatly numbers.
Anyway, with those weekly sales, Splatoon will outsell Mario Kart 8 lifetime by end of this year.
Crazy.