vicissitudes
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Hell, even the WIi was only doing 25k a week during its prime.
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Media Create Sales: Week 7, 2014 (Feb 10 - Feb 16)
- Thread starter Chris1964
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Hell, even the WIi was only doing 25k a week during its prime.
test_account
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I think that Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze would have to have a ~20% drop tops next week for it to be any indication that snow had any meaningful impact on the first week's sales.
Hypereides
Gold Member
According to previous console launch shipments?
I may overexaggerated, but my point is that it's lower than compared to generally other and previous console launch shipments.
Not really:
Wii U - 308,142
Vita - 324,859
3DS - 374,764
Wii - 350,358
PS3 - 81,639
360 - 43,970
Those are the sell-through estimates for the last several launches, if it sells through most of a 350k shipment then that is perfectly in line with previous launches.
Liabe Brave
Member
I don't think that's true. A quick eyeball of Garaph shows Wiikly averages around 70k in 2007 and 50k in 2008 (ignoring pre-holiday slumps and holiday spikes). It wasn't until after the third holiday and into 2009 that Wii's numbers got down to 25k/week.
It was in the earnings report:
The Wii U hardware still has a negative impact on Nintendos profits owing mainly to its markdown in the United States and Europe
shinra-bansho
Member
Looks promising... Hopefully they didn't expend too much supply there that would have been better put elsewhere.
Moor-Angol
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It was the worst snowfall in the last 45 years in Tokyo, more than 20cm, and in the north of Japan it was much worst. Around a dozen of people died due to the snowfall.
Besides that stupid hirony someone made, it probably had some effects on sales.
Maybe 20cm of snow is not so much for most of us, but in Tokyo they are not used to have snowfall (last year it snowed just one day in January), so a heavy snowfall produces some problems, for example, all trains stop, and in Tokyo most of people use train or subway to move around the city.
If there are heatwaves it's hot, but you can catch a train and go wherever you want, if there is a lot of snow and trains are stopped, why you should go outside ?
Apophis2036
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Cool, thanks for the clarification. Nintendo really screwed up by building WiiU around backwards compatibility. A console on par with WiiU performance using PS4 like off the shelf PC parts would probably cost no more than $150 to build, $199 with the tablet... They could have built a console 50% as powerful as XBone with the tablet for the same price WiiU launched at aswell :/.
Is it wrong to be excited by those Japanese PS4 launch pics even although I have had one since EU launch ?
.Yeah that's true. Last week i couldn't get to my work because my line wasn't working (Yamanote Line in Tokyo).
But as Chris said, maybe we're talking about 5-10k sales lost. So not much difference, really.
Sammy Samusu
Member
PS4 predictions?
I'm thinking 150k.
I'm thinking 150k.
theprodigy
Member
There are amazing lines in Yamada Denki in Ikebukuro to buy PS4:
2 sales confirmed!
Fortunatly, in Bic Camera there're more people lining:
did something change ?
You don't need to line up to get a PS4?
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Not looking too encouraging.
Game industry is in such a sad state in Japan.
Game industry is in such a sad state in Japan.
lol I meant did ppl start to come ?
theprodigy
Member
so how likely is Sony to provide Xbox One-level supply for the Japanese launch?
lol
lol
Dead Prince
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jeremy1456
Junior Member
Wow, that looks simply terrible for the PS4. Doesn't it launch today (the 22nd in Japan)?
shinra-bansho
Member
350k doesn't seem like excessively bullish or bearish supply. But it's outside the holiday period, in a softer console market, few big titles that aren't available elsewhere and with the Japanese consumer caring less about the technical upgrade.
I'd guess they end up with like a 60% sell-through or so - around the 200k mark.
I think they'll take a couple weeks to sell that through and have maybe an 150k shipment worth of resupply in the fiscal year as the N-B CEO suggested.
I'd guess they end up with like a 60% sell-through or so - around the 200k mark.
I think they'll take a couple weeks to sell that through and have maybe an 150k shipment worth of resupply in the fiscal year as the N-B CEO suggested.
maabus1999
Member
There are amazing lines in Yamada Denki in Ikebukuro to buy PS4:
2 sales confirmed!
Fortunatly, in Bic Camera there're more people lining:
Ha, contrast that to the German video of people storming the malls. Total culture clash between the two.
Plus, it is looking what many of us have predicted: consoles gaming has just moved on from Japan. It will sell "ok" but media create sales I think in a few months are going to be a cry fest.
I'd be surprised if the PS4 struggles to sell this early on. Wii U hit 300K, Vita hit 300K, 3DS hit 350K. Has the console market dried up that much, is the PS4 that much less appealing to the type of consumer that buys a console on day one?
It might take two or three months before things slump.
Regarding the Famitsu most wanted list. Is it usual for a Mario Kart to be there? Honest question. It doesn't mean anything, but it seems out of place there.
It might take two or three months before things slump.
Regarding the Famitsu most wanted list. Is it usual for a Mario Kart to be there? Honest question. It doesn't mean anything, but it seems out of place there.
If the PS4 has a poor time early on it will have more to do with the lineup than anything else.
Yamada Denki is still empty. But I think Yamada Denki is more a Nintendo's friend shop, than a Sony's one.
Bic Camera line is the same as in the photo. So at least is not becoming shorter for the moment.
I'm not seeing much hype around, but we'll see what happens in next MC thread.
Also I think will be more interesting to check tomorrow or monday if there're sold outs, 'cause I doubt we'll see today. So if the 350k shipment it's true, then we can expect how much it sold.
Wii U and VITA both launched during holidays. 3DS is a handheld to follow the best selling system of all time. PS4 doesn't have either benefit.
As for MK, it always charts on Famitsu most wanted list.
Basically holiday spending season. Which is primarily why I questioned Sony's strategy of skipping the 2013 holiday season to sell systems in other countries(primarily in Asia). Now its 3 months later, and they'll have crappier sales to show for it.
shinra-bansho
Member
What's to question? The bulk of supply was reserved to furnish supply in North America and Western Europe, with basically minimal launches everywhere else. And that supply has still been somewhat insufficient. The Japanese market would have strained supply much further than whatever small amount went to Hong Kong.
Reserving 350K for launching in the, ultimately less important, Japanese market in holiday 2013 would have been a poor decision.
I think we're disagreeing how successful a 'sold out' launch is vs. the likely slow roll that the PS4 will experience. The end result will likely be the same, but we're entering an era that there will be no console 'winner' in Japan, just losers. The market has clearly moved on to handhelds and mobile, with mobile just eating more and more market share.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Sounds disappointing
.Square, you better sort out your shit fast and release a new FF on PS4 before it's too late.
Sounds disappointing
With this launch titles and current market situation on Japan, is no surprise.
Moor-Angol
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According to Dengeki online :
100 people this morning at Yodobashi Akiba (people started line on friday at 15:00)
20 people at Sofmap Akihabara
70 people at Bic Camera Ikebukuro
40 people at Bic Camera Yurakucho
70 people at Tsutaya Shibuya
Kinda.
I for one expect the PS4 to be the "best selling system" for the coming month. But looking at the numbers now I wouldn't call that a feat.
I just hope it pushes the Japanese devs to actually try and give us in the west some goodies if the market stays stagnant in the east. Not Everyone Can Jump On That Annoying Mobile Train.
It can't all be like this
Because it'll end up like this instead ↓
It has more to do with the launch lineup than anything else. The best selling title will be a port of a spinoff. And Sonys own highlights are Killzone and Knack...
this is gonna be a super slow year for ps4, it was very apparent after their tgs event and complete lack of interest from 3rd parties. Maybe next year...
Looking how other platforms are doing, it's going to be a very terrible year for hardware sales overall, just how bad we'll see...
Looking how other platforms are doing, it's going to be a very terrible year for hardware sales overall, just how bad we'll see...
DarkLordMalik
Member
PS4 = good but nothing spectacular
Pretty much. The known PS4 software lineup is Western focused at this point, for the most part. Thing will eventually change in time, but the PS4 will likely do low numbers in Japan for a good portion of 2014.
SwiftDeath
Member
You mean just in Japan surely?
Well, if we go worldwide
PSP Go - bombed
Vita - bombed
Vita TV - bombed (if and when it gets released)
Vita-2000 - bombed (when it gets released)
But I doubt retailers will bother to stock much for Sony's next handheld launches.
SwiftDeath
Member
True I simply meant that you were including PS4 in that and WW it's had the best hardware launch ever. Pretty sure in the history of VG consoles/ handhelds. It's still tracking ahead of the PS2 and Wii WW isn't it?
And_Gignac
Member
PS4 won't have any significant presence until maybe FFXV. We will have very interesting weeks of Wii U vs PS4 ahead of us.