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[King Dazzar]

It sounds like Phil Spencer might be on the outs...

You think so? I reckon they're as thick as thieves.

 

[ComputerBlue]

MCC please.

 

[Oppoi]

Nope. More like...

This is actually true if you believe MS put themselves in this position as some kind of gag.

 

[Unknown?]

The man that’s moved Microsoft to be the most valuable tech company in the world (at the moment) is ‘just as bad’?

When it comes to gaming, yes. Man doesn't have a clue!

 

[King Dazzar]

MCC please.

And Gears for me. Going by SoT positive reception, I'd be surprised if Forza Horizon 5 wasn't high up on their list.... seems a logical next step, now an aging game too.

 

[Unknown?]

Nadella is fine. In fact he’s good. The complete opposite of Phil who speaks out of the sides of his mouth.

Nadella is happily making everything multi platform. He doesn’t care about ‘spending Sony out of business’ or acquiring Nintendo for ‘a career moment’.

As long as the numbers look good he’s happy.

And this is the most exciting direction Microsoft have took gaming in the last 15 years. If I want to support a developer like Rare I can do on Nintendo or Sony’s platform, because I’ll never do it on an Xbox.

He approved and believed Phil though! That's just bad judgement and Phil's mistakes fall on him as well.

 

[rodrigolfp]

In a bid to make more money and expand Xbox's reach, Microsoft is bringing more games to PlayStation and Nintendo Switch, and this is part of a wider strategy.

The mental gymnastics.

 

[Oppoi]

All studios and IP that are now for Microsoft to care and deliver on. Are we better off in terms of quantity and quality? Can anyone really say that?

 

[rodrigolfp]

Even though that would, objectively, be a worse experience than just playing on the Xbox.

Explain how playing with gyro assist would be objectively worse.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

It's ironic that acquiring activision blizzard (alongside the decay in xbox hardware sales) has shifted the economics of the division so far up its own ass the only viable solution for the whole mess is to essentially become a third party publisher.

 

[HeWhoWalks]

This is actually true if you believe MS put themselves in this position as some kind of gag.

So, what would you call it then?

 

[SHA]

Peter Moore is smart, he said we begin working with the guys we used to punch with.

 

[HeWhoWalks]

Peter Moore is smart, he said we begin working with the guys we used to punch with.

In this case, it's the guys they've been punched by.

 

[onQ123]

In this case, it's the guys they've been punched by.

Not once but twice

 

[Ozriel]

It's ironic that acquiring activision blizzard (alongside the decay in xbox hardware sales) has shifted the economics of the division so far up its own ass the only viable solution for the whole mess is to essentially become a third party publisher.

Arguing that Xbox would be selling more consoles or more games if they didn’t buy ABK is some weird logic

He approved and believed Phil though! That's just bad judgement and Phil's mistakes fall on him as well.

The alternative was to exit gaming altogether.
Can’t say there’s much that’s fundamentally wrong with the plan pitched years ago. The botched execution is all on Phil.

 

[Syphon Filter]

OK

Now lets see Halo

Halo is irrelevant now.

 

[onQ123]

I love that all the self-quotes you do are from closed threads

Great isn't it? old man comes out of the woods after the disaster movie is over to say I told you so

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Arguing that Xbox would be selling more consoles or more games if they didn’t buy ABK is some weird logic

That's not what is being said.

 

[onQ123]

It didn't though.

I guess you didn't get the joke


But yeah It's the 3rd year most games that came out so far where already planned before things went bad but now there is rumors that devs are questioning if it's even worth it to make Xbox games.

 

[onQ123]

Halo is irrelevant now.

The name is still good they just have to make a return

 

[GigaBowser]

microsoft strategies

 

[Solarstrike]

Gears of the go? Oh man

 

[YOU PC BRO?!]

There are snakes in the grass...

 

[Oppoi]

So, what would you call it then?

I wouldn't call it a generous spending spree for all to enjoy.

 

[SHA]

The name is still good they just have to make a return

Chief was born on the wrong planet, just like Ronnie Coleman, yeah buddy, light weight.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Gears of the go? Oh man

Whatyearisit.gif

 

[HeWhoWalks]

I wouldn't call it a generous spending spree for all to enjoy.

I didn't call it generosity. I was mocking this idea that people are begging.

 

[rhodesianshepard]

The name is still good they just have to make a return

It's nearly impossible for Halo to return in any big way. Arena shooters with limited gameplay variety are just not popular anymore. A new Halo needs dramatic gameplay changes, like what God of War 2018 did for its franchise. The problem is all the die hard 30+ year old Halo fans would throw a shit-fit if the multiplayer gameplay changed in any real way

 

[CLW]

Colt Eastwood live after learning MS has gone third party

 

[UltimaKilo]

I think Phil is a proven survivor at this point. The man survived two failed hardware launches, he can probably survive a nuclear incident tbh.

You think so? I reckon they're as thick as thieves.

He could have someone on the board covering his ass, but my experience is that even if they can't fire you, they will make your life miserable and put someone over you (Windows team) to strip you of your responsabilities and have you quit, which is so much better for HR and PR. However, Spencer could be on3 of those leeches that is fine with it so long as he continues to get a paycheck and hold onto his stock.

 

[King Dazzar]

Halo is irrelevant now.

Coming from a guy who still has a large Master Chief figurine, these days I'm more interested in buzz light year. At least buzz makes me laugh.

 

[IDKFA]

Halo is irrelevant now.

The MCC would still be a huge seller on PS5/Switch.

 

[King Dazzar]

He could have someone on the board covering his ass, but my experience is that even if they can't fire you, they will make your life miserable and put someone over you (Windows team) to strip you of your responsabilities and have you quit, which is so much better for HR and PR. However, Spencer could be on3 of those leeches that is fine with it so long as he continues to get a paycheck and hold onto his stock.

Yeah, I do wonder if they see Xbox hardware as a failure of his doing though, or even if they see it as a failure.... They must surely. Or they believe things like, its all Don's fault as he cost us the last generation etc etc, whilst seeing Phil as successful in terms of the ABK acquisition and implementing GP.

The MCC would still be a huge seller on PS5/Switch.

Yep, you'd hope so. Even if just for the walk down memory lane for many. MCC would be great to have in our libraries. Unfortunately I reckon they'd prioritise Infinite and its multiplayer though....

 

[ComputerBlue]

The MCC would still be a huge seller on PS5/Switch.

I’d buy it on both and I already have it on Xbox.

 

[ergem]

An Xbox PC will be a complete failure.

They have less of a chance of drawing people away from Steam than they do drawing people away from Playstation and they have no chance of drawing people away from Playstation at this point.

The market is set imo.

Nintendo - Handhelds
Playstation- Consoles
PC - Steam

These are the winners (through competition) of each domain.

And I think the market will be better for it in the end.

I’m thinking MS will start from scratch with ARM PCs and ARM Windows.

They will use their xbox division and game studios to propel an ARM PC Xbox store and with a handheld similar to Steam Deck.

In such a case, MS has no competition.

 

[Moriarty1889]

Glad I jumped ship sold my series X at a profit

Same here. Sold mine and picked up another PS5, the slim version with disc to go alongside my original PS5. Best decision I made in quite a while.

 

[UltimaKilo]

Yeah, I do wonder if they see Xbox hardware as a failure of his doing though, or even if they see it as a failure.... They must surely. Or they believe things like, it’s all Don's fault as he cost us the last generation etc etc, whilst seeing Phil as successful in terms of the ABK acquisition and implementing GP.

It all depends how much money the division has lost.

 

[DragonNCM]

Yeah, I do wonder if they see Xbox hardware as a failure of his doing though, or even if they see it as a failure.... They must surely. Or they believe things like, its all Don's fault as he cost us the last generation etc etc, whilst seeing Phil as successful in terms of the ABK acquisition and implementing GP.

It is strange how people on this forum see that less hardware sale=money lost for MS....actually it is money gain for MS when you think that with every console sold they are lousing money. What meters in the end is how many games your game division is selling, and MS have PC gamepass & Xbox gamepass & ABK + first party games going on Sony & Nintendo consoles + sales on steam day one. Yes they lost numbers on consoles but on games sold they are leaders.....

 

[jroc74]

It is strange how people on this forum see that less hardware sale=money lost for MS....actually it is money gain for MS when you think that with every console sold they are lousing money. What meters in the end is how many games your game division is selling, and MS have PC gamepass & Xbox gamepass & ABK + first party games going on Sony & Nintendo consoles + sales on steam day one. Yes they lost numbers on consoles but on games sold they are leaders.....

And that money gain by selling less consoles....wouldn't it be even more gained if they stopped making consoles all together?

At some point the money spent on R&D, manufacturing wont be worth it.

Its a weird thing some try to debate about. But you do have a point.

 

[reinking]

It is strange how people on this forum see that less hardware sale=money lost for MS....actually it is money gain for MS when you think that with every console sold they are lousing money. What meters in the end is how many games your game division is selling, and MS have PC gamepass & Xbox gamepass & ABK + first party games going on Sony & Nintendo consoles + sales on steam day one. Yes they lost numbers on consoles but on games sold they are leaders.....

I think it is strange how "people on this forum" have different views. For example, I think most "people on this forum" agree that MS will actually make more money by bringing more games to other consoles/platforms. I think the argument is that they will sell even less of their consoles in doing so. That doesn't necessarily mean less money, it means that most believe with this move the Xbox console is on its way out. We know they have at least one more on the way. I am excited to see what they come up with to make it competitive in the market as they release more titles on competing platforms.

 

[semiconscious]

that switch is cool looking...

 

[nani17]

 

[Skelterz]

I’d be made up with lost odyssey blue dragon and gears of war coming to PlayStation.

 

[Celcius]

Can we get the original Gears of War trilogy on Steam please, Microsoft?

 

[SScorpio]

Can we get the original Gears of War trilogy on Steam please, Microsoft?

2, 3, and Judgement never released on PC. But there's been a rumor a GOW collection like the Master Chief Collection is coming out.

 

[SportsFan581]

That's too good. I love the batteries. Did you create that yourself?

We will never give up those batteries. Never!!!!!

 

[VolticArchangel]

That's too good. I love the batteries. Did you create that yourself?

We will never give up those batteries. Never!!!!!

AI, created/written by another GAF'fer, forgot who it was.

 

[VolticArchangel]

2, 3, and Judgement never released on PC. But there's been a rumor a GOW collection like the Master Chief Collection is coming out.

This rumor has been around for far too long.

Asked a few friends, and they knew people who were part of the closed MP beta testing done by The Coalition / Splash Damage. Don't have any first hand evidence, SS or game capture direct feed clips.

All under NDA.

 

[SportsFan581]

AI, created/written by another GAF'fer, forgot who it was.

The AI is getting crazy good at those kind of things, much better than the way they used to turn out.

 

[diffusionx]

People need to see what MS did with Windows Phone. They killed that platform, put their software on iOS and Android, and made a far more successful and more sustainable business.