DenchDeckard
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The missions i had to go through to get my son a series x for xmas in the uk was wild.
It's like they gave up 6 months ago and now it's really starting to show.
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Microsoft to stop shipping Xbox Series X to Brazil; Console now $1750
The missions i had to go through to get my son a series x for xmas in the uk was wild.
It's like they gave up 6 months ago and now it's really starting to show.
Aion002
Member
I don't think that in this case is about tariffs.
On Amazon Brazil:
The PS5 digital with 2 games is currently 600 usd.
The PS5 with disc is 700 usd.
The Switch with 2 games is 300 usd.
The Series S is 455 usd.
The Series X 1tb all digital is 736 usd.
The Series X with disc is 912 usd.
This is all on MS. They decided to charge more on Xbox in Brazil.
The Xbox Series S grabs a massive price hike and now costs as much as a PS5 Digital in Brazil, and Microsoft won't explain why
Now the same price as a PS5 Digital Edition.
www.windowscentral.com
While Nintendo and Sony decreased their console prices, MS increased it.
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Radical_3d
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Skifi28
Member
"A camera flaps its wings in the US and subsequently Series X is discontinued in half the world."
Insanemaelstrom
Member
Beginning of the end of an era. I just hope that now, because ms is going third party, they start improving the quality of their games( especially the latest forza motorsport, such a disappointment)
Radical_3d
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Pedro Motta
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Pedro Motta
Gold Member
You just had to Kinect the dots.
Edit: now I get it. God. I’m more stupid than Steve Rogers…
I think every generation MS loses, if I'm not mistaken, around $1B on hardware and they want to getaway from that and for all the other reasons, they already operate as a console in the 3rd place from the beginning and it seems they can't getaway from this.
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kazuyamishima
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Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
As a Brazilian, can you theorize for me how the South of Midnight trailer got 300K views from XboxBR?
This video also got nearly 800k views relating to gamepass.
I was surprised to hear this news about limited stock in Brazil after seeing what appeared to be a pretty healthy market. I had assumed that maybe GamePass was a big seller in Brazil?
I pre ordered it and never saw one on the shelf.
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Most people in Brazil buy their hardware from grey market because it's cheaper, even PS5 despite its big official retailer presence has many people buying them from grey resellers who bring them from Paraguay.
Another important fact: Xbox Store prices are cheaper than PS Store ones, hell even Nintendo Eshop multiplat games tend to be cheaper. Xbox physical media has been dead here since 2023, but brazilians are one of the nationalities with the biggest daily internet usage so anything more affordable is at bigger priority, let alone that the 2013-2016 Xbox One discs are prone to rot due to the lower quality from the factory and that current gen print run (PS5) has definetely been much lower, making the used games to retain much more value and expensive than digital.
PS3 has also ingrained somewhat the idea of the brand being "premium" while Xbox as the humble one thanks to piracy and officially lower prices than Playstation most of the time, Sony BR tried to sell the PS4 for R$4k while Microsoft sold the Xbox One for 2,5k at launch.
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Gorgon
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I think people that have only a PS will still be interested in what other platforms have, specially if it's the direct competition. I mean, I basically just use my XBX for State of Decay and little else, but I enjoy watching Xbox shows. I doubt I'm the only one.
Moriarty1889
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Pitiful.
Horseganador
Member
It's curious how Xbox doublespeak, on the one hand they tell you that there will be new hardware... but the facts tell you the opposite, that they are pulling the plug and abandoning the market discreetly, abandoning entire markets or with little stock in countries like the UK, if they are going to make a Sega, let them say so... or is it another "there are only 4" from a year ago.
Kenneth Haight
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Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
There is no market incentive for Microsoft to announce leaving or even diminishing from the console market.
They could release a NextBox that costs 900 dollars and is the same power as the PS6 and their core consumers will pay the price because they want to keep their ecosystem. Or they could release a premium handheld like the steam deck.
Or they could get out of the hardware game altogether.
They have a lot of options and the thing that reduces your options is by talking about your options.
wipeout364
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I believe Microsoft will be around for a long time in the game business. The next console will likely be a platform built out of PC parts similar to how windows is licensed and Microsoft will an aspirational version like the surface line then Everybody else makes tons of variations. Microsoft is going to focus on Xbox/Microsoft games OS and Streaming.
You likely will be able to get ASUS,Acer, Lenovo, Dell Xbox’s to hook into your TV. Or you probably will be able to build your own and buy/download the OS. Also you will be able to just run it on your PC.
I am not sure why people think this is a bad strategy it’s similar to where Valve is trying to go with Steam OS.
You likely will be able to get ASUS,Acer, Lenovo, Dell Xbox’s to hook into your TV. Or you probably will be able to build your own and buy/download the OS. Also you will be able to just run it on your PC.
I am not sure why people think this is a bad strategy it’s similar to where Valve is trying to go with Steam OS.
Cramoss
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Game Pass is on PC too, y'know?
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Mibu no ookami
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I don't envision PC as a huge market in Brazil, y'know?
But maybe I'm wrong, maybe those willing to pay outrageous prices in Brazil figure, I might as well get an even more outrageously priced PC.
solidus12
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Xbox Series L
EverydayBeast
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Suits made the series x Brazil decision for the heck of it.
DeepEnigma
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DeepEnigma
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Brazil does this all the time. There are oceans of them in Florida, especially Disney/Universal Studios/Outlet Shops on holiday. Just pay a student to get one for you.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
It is "huge" because the games prices.
Seyken
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PC is big here. The most important thing for a lot of brazillians is cost. Like someone else in the thread said, the Xbox 360 did very well here at the time because it was easily pirateable.
PC has the piracy aspect to it as well, but Steam is moving a lot of people to their side because of regional pricing. I recently moved to PC myself after being with Sony since the early PS1 days, and it's a night and day difference in prices. I recently pre-ordered a steam key for MH Wilds for U$ 35. If I were to buy the same game on my PS5, it would cost U$ 58. That's an insane difference, and that's just one game. There are even crazier examples, so even if you were to spend some more money on a mid-high range PC, that would easily pay itself back over time compared to a console. There's also a few other things that help the PC market grow over here:
- Popular streamers getting people into PC gaming since that's what they use to play on.
- A lot of people love LoL here, and that is PC only.
- A lot of people don't really care about the cutting edge parts or don't understand too much about it, they just buy / ask someone to build an affordable, entry level PC and are happy with it.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Its true. The 360 was goated until like around 2011 which coincides with Kinect.
Joel Was Right
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I've read online that some recent SX purchases were actually manufactured in 2020, which would suggest that MS are just adjusting their stock by slowing production to accommodate slower demand. If so, it might mean periods with low stock in general
Gp1
Member
That isn't the case since half of the PS3/360 era.
And Phil understood "launch everything on Steam"
Sooner
Gold Member
It wasn't Kinect's fault they 360 exclusives dried up and PS3's took off.
Causation/corelation.
Azelover
Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
There is no meaningful legal videogame market here in Brazil. I don't know how it is now but for the longest time the taxing on gaming was insane.
A games console was categorized with Nickel and Dime machines. It was associated with gambling. Government of old farts..
A games console was categorized with Nickel and Dime machines. It was associated with gambling. Government of old farts..
Roman Empire
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Xbox was never that strong in any other region outside of the US after the 360 era. And as proven they just gave up going after Playstation and are adopting the 3rd party publisher route.
Gp1
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Bullshit, Brazil is the 10th or 11th biggest game market in the world. Grey market probably isn't even accounted on this kind of statistics as a Xbox sold on the grey market was probably bought in bulk in another country like the US, SEA, Mexico etc.
Its in the same league as Canada, Mexico, Italy, etc with bigger growth potential (total population) and bigger challenges. (doing business in Brazil is incredibly hard)
It's probably even higher when you consider mobile gaming, f2p gaming revenue, digital sales, etc and the difficulty to find quality data that on the subject.
The S series would have great potential in Brazil if MS knew how to play its cards around the market. "Subsidize" it a minimum, give some gamepass freebies or make a special gamepass price for Series S owners and for half of the price of a PS5 (which was the street price at launch) and you have the perfect machine for it.
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The idea was certainly that of some idiot in a suit with dreams of world domination, the classic megalomaniac from MS
Leave the engineers out of it LOL
Radical_3d
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Azelover
Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
You kiss your mother with that mouth? I admit the situation is a lot better now. I forgot to specify that I was commenting on the situation many years ago, when I was much younger. We have a lot of investment in the industry now, and the advent of smartphone gaming also helped. But around the year 2000 it was very difficult to be a gamer here. That's all..
Gp1
Member
Nah, just "the other guy" mother.
And I like to dispel that myth that Brazilian gaming market = grey market, piracy and old Sega's Tectoy consoles.
The vast majority of the console buyers prefers to buy their current gen console from a big retailer chains, invoiced, with legal warranty and paying in 12 interest-free installments than with the No warranty Chinese community underground seller, liked it happened in the PSOne/PS2 era.
Just look at console sales data in the last black friday.
Hell, even on the 16bit era it was a common practice to buy "legalized" consoles (now, correctly) with Tectoy's Sega. The "importers"/grey market arrived predominantly in the second half of the 16bit gen and run strong from early/mid 90's until late 2000's
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A lot of 360 and PS3 were sold by grey imports even when they had official ones (and they were assembled here back then), Xbox One X was officially sold too but the vast majority IIRC was grey imports, mine for example came from EMEA which is also a common source for many PS4 and Switch games with PEGI ratings imported here.
Guys, Brazil is one of the biggest gaming markets (according do Neezoo) and until quite recently it was Xbox third market. In its last visit to Brazil, at the end of 2023, Phil said, for instance, that Brazil was the second market for cloud gaming in the worlrd. And also the first when using Samsung TVs (for reference Brazil was also, at some moment, the 5th biggest market for Steam and in the top 8 for PlayStation).
Having said that I think what they are doing in Brazil will happen in the rest of the world. They are third party now and will focus on Cloud and Game Pass. Guys, their biggest marketing campaign is showing that and nobody seems to take it seriously. Everything is a Xbox. They have been for a while deprioritizing their consoles worldwide and probably don't want to sell at a loss anymore.
In Brazil, at the beginning of this generation they were very competitive and the Series S was even the best-selling console for a period. In 2023, they stopped producing physical media, increased the Series S prices and ended promotions. They practically gave up last year, didn't do anything for Black Friday. PS5 sold more than 300k last Black Friday and was costing almost the same as the Xbox Series S.
Having said that I think what they are doing in Brazil will happen in the rest of the world. They are third party now and will focus on Cloud and Game Pass. Guys, their biggest marketing campaign is showing that and nobody seems to take it seriously. Everything is a Xbox. They have been for a while deprioritizing their consoles worldwide and probably don't want to sell at a loss anymore.
In Brazil, at the beginning of this generation they were very competitive and the Series S was even the best-selling console for a period. In 2023, they stopped producing physical media, increased the Series S prices and ended promotions. They practically gave up last year, didn't do anything for Black Friday. PS5 sold more than 300k last Black Friday and was costing almost the same as the Xbox Series S.
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