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Naughty Dog Announces Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet

PeteBull

Member
tommy is an old fuck.
Abby is younger and packing muscles.
Can we not have this conversation?
Her skull is female skull, older(not old, older) guy can knock out woman cold with a single slap to the face, yet here hit to the temple, with a steel part of a gun does nothing?
Even if she eats performance enhancing drugs like candies for years, it doesnt make her skull, in most fragile place- temple- more resiliant, she should be just as fragile as any normal woman's skull.
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
Her skull is female skull, older(not old, older) guy can knock out woman cold with a single slap to the face, yet here hit to the temple, with a steel part of a gun does nothing?
Even if she eats performance enhancing drugs like candies for years, it doesnt make her skull, in most fragile place- temple- more resiliant, she should be just as fragile as any normal woman's skull.
shut up
 

Gaiff

SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Some superheroes were created as WW2 propaganda but they ultimately had to transcend that or they would have died out.

Bob Dylan always insisted his songs were not political and he never wanted to be seen as a political figure for exactly this reason.

Films like Triumph of the Will and Birth of a Nation? Come on, they're remembered for some of their technical achievements but their artistic legacies have rightly been tarnished for being propaganda.
I don't disagree with most of this, but you said the following:

The purpose of art is not to be a political tool - and if that's your purpose you're making propaganda. Art can explore politics, contain political themes, but if it's going to be any good at all - it can not subordinate itself to politics.

And I disagree with that. Art can be good or great even if it's intended as a political tool. It can subordinate itself to politics and churn out something great regardless and we have countless examples of that. The ones I gave were specific in the way that these pieces couldn't have been made without the politics surrounding them. It's not a case of politics being a byproduct or secondary effect of art. It's art being born from politics. You could easily make TLOU Part II and have a relatively similar game with the same accolades if you keep the social commentary out. Captain America without the anti-Nazi propaganda? That's not Captain America.
 

shamoomoo

Banned
It doesn’t have to appeal to their core demographic, but it probably should if they want to turn a profit.
But gaming is for whoever likes it. Since Naughty Dog already established two franchises,why make a new IP specifically for their core audience instead being different? Because I don't mind more of the same with new paint,but why not try something different?
 

ANoa

Member
Twitch streamers and their audience have been a disaster for gaming.
I don't see anything wrong with that clip.

Someone in her chat brought up a good point about masculine women being trendy in games. Why are so many prominent female characters being designed to be as close to men as possible?
 
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PeteBull

Member
TloU 1 is one of the best games ever made. You should try it.
Yup it was great even on ps3, and that version has major framerate and image quality issues for the very reason game was ambitious as hell, ps4 remaster and that newest remaster are top notch in every aspect, even pc port that was initially unoptimised trash got fixed with time, overall top notch quality all around :)
 

kruis

Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.

Anticipation Popcorn GIF

What's wrong with these Kotaku writers? These people are fucking weird.

I also just instantly liked the character. Apparently she’s called Jordan A. Mun, a bounty hunter, clearly pursuing an obsession that her agent wishes she’d leave alone.
Mun, played by Tati Gabrielle, is just so immediately personable. She’s twinkle-eyed, gleeful in her refusal to follow her agent’s advice, and thanks to some stunning motion capture and art, conveys vast amounts about her character through the smallest expressions. I want to hang, except neither of us would actually want to hang. We’d nod at one another, then sit at separate ends of the ship.
 

Three

Member
tommy is an old fuck.
Abby is younger and packing muscles.
Can we not have this conversation?
Honestly these conversations are often disguised hate for Abby as debates about "realism". TLOU1 had a scrawny little kid taking out grown men but packing Abby in TLOU2 is where they draw the line with that. This was not a problem for anyone with TLOU1 in 2013 when the 13 year old was overpowering bulky men.
 
Her skull is female skull, older(not old, older) guy can knock out woman cold with a single slap to the face, yet here hit to the temple, with a steel part of a gun does nothing?
Even if she eats performance enhancing drugs like candies for years, it doesnt make her skull, in most fragile place- temple- more resiliant, she should be just as fragile as any normal woman's skull.
I must have missed your posts complaining about realism in every game where you heal yourself form gunshot wounds by stepping on a medkit or a glowing green orb, or where you pick up extra ammo by walking over dropped weapons, or you can carry an infinite number of mags, or where men get hit in the head with a heavy metal object and don't go into a coma or just die, or the 10,000 other dumb things in this hobby.
 

shamoomoo

Banned
Yup, there is quite famous saying from Napoleon.
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So lets just see how Druckmann and ND handles it all.
After such trailer their window of opportunity to salvage the game is closing day by day, personally i think only thing that could pour some optimism would be solid chunk of high quality gameplay, but since its ND and Druckmann there is higher chance we will get protag getting more musclemass in next trailer, exactly like it was with 2017 trailer of last of us 2 vs 2020 ;)
So Naughty Dog is your enemy? I get we are the consumer vs producers and the power dynamics is usually bad for the consumer but what's your end goal? And others who think in a similar vein?

I don't play every genre of games but I want something different along with more of the same with new paint.
 

PeteBull

Member
I must have missed your posts complaining about realism in every game where you heal yourself form gunshot wounds by stepping on a medkit or a glowing green orb, or where you pick up extra ammo by walking over dropped weapons, or you can carry an infinite number of mags, or where men get hit in the head with a heavy metal object and don't go into a coma or just die, or the 10,000 other dumb things in this hobby.
That whataboutism tho, TLOU2 is videogame so abby is allowed to be a cyborg then, is ur point =D
I know why it is like that- coz druckmann pushes woke agenda, that is sole reason u guys somehow are afraid to admit, its ok to like woke games, u do u, bro, same way its ok to not like them, like in my case :)
 

Geometric-Crusher

"Nintendo games are like indies, and worth at most $19" 🤡
you are being used, you are fighting with the wind, don't you realize that?

The ND team made the game for themselves and for people who like ND ( me). You are delusional if you think criticizing the game or boycotting will change anything.

There are enough people who like Neil's games to make the game profitable and that's what matters to them, you need to support medium studios that make the games you want, you are being used to do free advertising for the ND.

Change your strategy because you won't achieve anything... basically You were not included in ND's market research, that's the truth,
so there's nothing to do except free advertising for the ND, sorry.
 
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PeteBull

Member
So Naughty Dog is your enemy? I get we are the consumer vs producers and the power dynamics is usually bad for the consumer but what's your end goal? And others who think in a similar vein?

I don't play every genre of games but I want something different along with more of the same with new paint.
Current ND with Druckman at the steering wheel is what makes gaming industry worse, i will be glad when they force him out and ND goes back to what they did best- producing high quality games that didnt focus on pushing woke agenda, they did it for decades with amazing success, and im fan of theirs :)
That will trully be "return to form" i want and hope for, not the fake dragon age: vailguard one :p
 

shamoomoo

Banned
Games are a form a art... but the Devs are not fucking Da Vinci ...they are making a product that has to sell 10 mil copies just to cover their budget. So popularity is important. Specially now with so much entertainment to consume our time.

Having said that ... ND and Cuckman can make the game they want... and we can be critical of anything we want .. its fair game bro.

I will always find amusing that the Dev can choose to show anything he wants... in this case he chose to make the "girl" bald and manly...but we cant comment on her baldness and lack of feminity... Will Smith vibes but in a massive scale.
That maybe true for some games but not every game,plus this a new game from Naughty Dog and not an established franchise so a new game should be allowed to differ greatly from franchised games.

No. This is a fantasy game,so the Idea of what is feminine or masculine shouldn't have to apply because the devs aren't trying to abide by rules of reality. Ultimately the developers choose how sexy/sexual they want their game characters to be,If they don't sexy characters then why complain?
 

Mister Wolf

Member
But non-white people aren't even represented in video games much. Also,if we can be anything or play as anything why is the highlighted portion and issue?

Never stopped me or any of my other black friends from playing and enjoying videogames. For your highlight that's simple. I and many other men I know of multiple races have zero interest in looking at masculinized women or feminized men. Her bald headed ass makes it an immediate skip just like when I saw this back in the day:

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Enoch looks like he belongs in a Yaoi manga.
 
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TMLT

Member
Ugly bald ethnically and sexually ambiguous androgynous chick. That design is going to appeal to.....someone...I guess?
 
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evanft

Member
I don't see anything wrong with that clip.

Someone in her chat brought up a good point about masculine women being trendy in games. Why are so many prominent female characters being designed to be as close to men as possible?
Twitch streamers and their audience have been a disaster for gaming.
 

RJMacready73

Simps for Amouranth
I honestly hoped this thread would be +100 pages of fucking retarded incel shit already based on a trailer.

C'mon GAF, you can do better. Shoot for +200 pages and show the world how fucking miserable this community is.
You'll find a lot of us on here are married you gender neutral fuckwit as for showing the world how miserable this community is? Are you taking the piss.. lol, at least over we can discuss differences of opinion from both sides without the fear of the banhammer, maybe you're just more suited to an echo chamber environment where everybody just nods yes, the purple haired cunts are over that way -> be sure to leave your dick at the door
 
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PeteBull

Member
Never stopped me or any of my other black friends from playing and enjoying videogames. For your highlight that's simple. I and many other men I know of multiple races have zero interest in looking at masculinized women or feminized men. Her bald headed ass makes it an immediate skip just like when I saw this back in the day:

chara-enoch.png


Enoch looks like he belongs in a Yaoi manga.
For ppl who dont know what yaoi manga genre is, its better to not know and just avoid it, i mistakenly thought its something else than it was and got some nasty surprise when i was already invested in the story, needless to say some stuff u just cant unsee ;X
 

DForce

NaughtyDog Defense Force
Her skull is female skull, older(not old, older) guy can knock out woman cold with a single slap to the face, yet here hit to the temple, with a steel part of a gun does nothing?
Even if she eats performance enhancing drugs like candies for years, it doesnt make her skull, in most fragile place- temple- more resiliant, she should be just as fragile as any normal woman's skull.
There are tons of movies where women are fighting men.

This has been a thing for decades but now it's a major issue. lol
 

Sony

Nintendo
I'm as much against woke BS as the next one, by I'm puzzled by what the issue is here? The fact that the protag is a bald woman? She reminds me of Jack from Mass Effect.

Or is the issue the trend between last of us wokeism and this game?
 

PeteBull

Member
Always remember, this is the guy calling you an incel on the internet.

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There is even nothing wrong for young man in his late teens or early 20s to struggle with getting sex/dating women, we start at the bottom of the mountain, most of us are avg and gotta build our value up before women look at us even, not to mention they let us rearrange their guts, that is why having high bodycount for men is respected, it takes tons of work and time to accomplish it, exactly opposite to how it is with women, they can accumulate hundreds by just existing, even looking mid af ;)
 

Geometric-Crusher

"Nintendo games are like indies, and worth at most $19" 🤡
You may think she’s hot ofc. To each their own
Mark my words, the game's protagonist will make many seductive insinuations, even with muscles she is still a woman, and normal men like women.
It will be fun to see players feeling some secret desire for her even if they reject her for social reasons, nature is stronger than ideology. But there are always those who are afraid, well just remember that she is totally a woman at the end of the day.
 
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