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[Bumblebeetuna]

you are being used, you are fighting with the wind, don't you realize that?

The ND team made the game for themselves and for people who like ND ( me). You are delusional if you think criticizing the game or boycotting will change anything.

There are enough people who like Neil's games to make the game profitable and that's what matters to them, you need to support medium studios that make the games you want, you are being used to do free advertising for the ND.

Change your strategy because you won't achieve anything... basically You were not included in ND's market research, that's the truth,
so there's nothing to do except free advertising for the ND, sorry.

Nailed it. I like how they continue to say ND is ruining the game by catering to such a small crowd, not realizing they themselves are a small crowd of people put off by how the character looks. The vast majority of people who buy the game won’t even know of this butt hurt movement. They’ll see a new ND game and buy. Or they’ll see a cool looking sci-fi game and buy. Or they’ll see a game with Kumail Nanjiani and Lalo from Better Call Saul in it and they’ll buy it. There are so many ways the game appeals to huge numbers of people and yet some here think the game will bomb because the MC doesn’t have huge tits.

Don’t we already have a game based entirely on tits and ass? It’s called Stellar Blade and it came and went like a queef in the wind. No one cared.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

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sounds familiar no? makes you think uh.... GAF, you should get educated. Just not educated enough to use your brain.... IT'S DANGEROUS!!!

 

[VulcanRaven]

I hope we can fly that spaceship and there are open-world city like areas.

 

[rofif]

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sounds familiar no? makes you think uh.... GAF, you should get educated. Just not educated enough to use your brain.... IT'S DANGEROUS!!!

if something requires a consultant to understand and feel more natural... it's forced and not natural.
I am not racist and I don't hate lgbt but I am starting to

 

[Hypereides]

Both of these slides are weird, but the bottom one is really gross/dubious. Seems like partially the root of this radicalization we're seeing in western games now. Talk about preying on converting/indoctrinating meek nerds.

How on earth did this manage to get approved for a legitimate GDC presentation?

 

[AfricanKing]

It doesn’t have to appeal to their core demographic, but it probably should if they want to turn a profit.

Last of Us 2 made a profit after its first day of sales. This game will appeal pretty much to anyone who is into space opera, sci-fi and cyberpunk and it’s coming from ND.

it’s going to be a profit churning game just off the studio name alone - not wanting to play a game because they don’t identify with the main character is a personality trait only a small margin of people share who seem to be vocal online.

Vast majority of people don’t care just give me a good game with a great story.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

if something requires a consultant to understand and feel more natural... it's forced and not natural.
I am not racist and I don't hate lgbt but I am starting to

Consultants are used all the time for historic accuracy, military stuff and shit like that. BUT also can be used for propaganda. in this case is even more maquivelic:

 

[Geometric-Crusher]

Don’t we already have a game based entirely on tits and ass? It’s called Stellar Blade and it came and went like a queef in the wind. No one cared.

Do you want to know the fun part? Intergalactic is like Stellar Blade, but stronger, more realistic and with greater sales potential, this protagonist tends to be bi and there will be a lot of men wanting her

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

I’m just glad Naughty Dog hasn’t gone down the character creator rabbit hole yet. I’m fine with any type of person in a game naturally. But trying to force others to live by your delusion and be ok with child mutilation is where I draw the line. Maybe I’m just out of touch and need “re-education”.

 

[Madflavor]

Given the amount of product placement in the game, I feel like a good chunk of this game’s budget is already paid for. I doubt it’s going to struggle to be profitable.

That said, bringing up Stellar Blade as a comparison is certainly a choice. You’re comparing an award winning studio with 30+ years of experience, to a studio that recently entered the AAA console game market with its debut Character Action game. Which is a genre that typically has modest sales to begin with, unless your name is Devil May Cry. Last time I checked Stellar Blade sold well.

 

[wkuraido]

I just noticed their official site is up: https://www.naughtydog.com/blog/intergalactic_the_heretic_prophet_announcement

While I was there I read the synopsis a couple times, and the description is getting me even more excited for Jordan's adventure


For anyone that hasn't watched the trailer yet, do so!! ND has another winner on their hands!!

 

[yazenov]

The game was made for the modern audience 4 years ago. Times have changed now in 2024 where the majority of the game made for the non existent modern audiences failed miserably.

People are much aware of their DEI agendas. I guess we are so used to them shoving it down our mouths we got good at detecting these trash agendas.

I was a fan of their past games but I'll avoid this one or if it's really good according to the user scores then I'll get it when it's on sales for cheap.

 

[shamoomoo]

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sounds familiar no? makes you think uh.... GAF, you should get educated. Just not educated enough to use your brain.... IT'S DANGEROUS!!!

I get it? If you don't come from a particular walk of life then what's the problem with a consultant? Especially if you don't have an experience with it? I have 4 sisters but I don't know what's it's like to be a woman.

 

[Rien]

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sounds familiar no? makes you think uh.... GAF, you should get educated. Just not educated enough to use your brain.... IT'S DANGEROUS!!!

This reads like something out of the soviet-union. Your way of thinking is not in line with the Party. Have a consultant. If you step out of line we wil denounce you and destroy your career you simple cis-gendered peasant.

 

[NickFire]

Nailed it. I like how they continue to say ND is ruining the game by catering to such a small crowd, not realizing they themselves are a small crowd of people put off by how the character looks. The vast majority of people who buy the game won’t even know of this butt hurt movement. They’ll see a new ND game and buy. Or they’ll see a cool looking sci-fi game and buy. Or they’ll see a game with Kumail Nanjiani and Lalo from Better Call Saul in it and they’ll buy it. There are so many ways the game appeals to huge numbers of people and yet some here think the game will bomb because the MC doesn’t have huge tits.

Don’t we already have a game based entirely on tits and ass? It’s called Stellar Blade and it came and went like a queef in the wind. No one cared.

You think the vast majority of purchasers will know anything about ND? I tend to highly doubt that.

Anyway, I think the game is going to miss out on a ton of sales both from people who are tired of played out themes and from reduced word of mouth. But I’m not hoping for it. I’m just in continuous disbelief that these companies keep tying concrete blocks to their shoes when jumping in the pool. Some will still surface for sure, but we’ve all seen so many examples of it going bad it’s just remarkable that no one has the courage to course correct.

 

[ArtHands]

I just noticed their official site is up: https://www.naughtydog.com/blog/intergalactic_the_heretic_prophet_announcement

While I was there I read the synopsis a couple times, and the description is getting me even more excited for Jordan's adventure


For anyone that hasn't watched the trailer yet, do so!! ND has another winner on their hands!!

joke post? Its a generic "person trap on a planet" premise

 

[cormack12]

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sounds familiar no? makes you think uh.... GAF, you should get educated. Just not educated enough to use your brain.... IT'S DANGEROUS!!!

Most trans consultants do have PHds

 

[Fake]

Imagining a dumb here denying this.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Last of Us 2 made a profit after its first day of sales. This game will appeal pretty much to anyone who is into space opera, sci-fi and cyberpunk and it’s coming from ND.

I'm heavily into space operas, sci-fi and cyberpunk and so far this game looked very icky to me.

The Last of Us 2 was riding on the wave of the first, if anything i'd argue it contributed to the poor reception of this title. ND clearly lost a lot of player trust after part 2.

 

[VenomousCoffee]

That whataboutism tho, TLOU2 is videogame so abby is allowed to be a cyborg then, is ur point =D
I know why it is like that- coz druckmann pushes woke agenda, that is sole reason u guys somehow are afraid to admit, its ok to like woke games, u do u, bro, same way its ok to not like them, like in my case

It's not whataboutism; it's demonstrating that you don't believe your own arguments. You're just throwing a temper tantrum because there's a female lead character who doesn't get damsel-ed.

Or, you know, just keep blathering "woke" over and over until it starts to mean something.

 

[proandrad]

Trying to find where on ND website where it says they only cater games to men. Mind pointing me in that direction??

Not everything has to be made for you … Jordan release sneakers in female sizes that have dope colours ways I wish they did in my size but I just accept it’s for another audience and move on with my life.

Not saying this new game is just for women but we play games with female leads all the time especially in RPGS no difference here

You are miss understanding. I’m talking about the majority of people who buy these games are young males. That is the audience of most AAA games. Yes, they all try to expand the market to include women and women do play these games. But the majority base are dudes. Since this is a for profit company it should be made for the audience that buys their games. Your Jordan example would be like if they design a pair of stiletto for 200million R&D and loses a ton of money because it didn’t appeal to the biggest group that buys their products.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Her skull is female skull, older(not old, older) guy can knock out woman cold with a single slap to the face, yet here hit to the temple, with a steel part of a gun does nothing?
Even if she eats performance enhancing drugs like candies for years, it doesnt make her skull, in most fragile place- temple- more resiliant, she should be just as fragile as any normal woman's skull.

True, the first game where you played as Joel and he survives all kinds of gunshot wounds and stabs and cuts because he finds some gauze lying around in the zombie apocalypse, now that is realism I can get behind because he’s a man, man.

 

[DavidGzz]

To be fair she looks like she has wider shoulders than the man himself.

That's a pretty soy frame though, even Angelina Jolie has him by half a foot.

 

[captainnapalm]

I don't disagree with most of this, but you said the following:



And I disagree with that. Art can be good or great even if it's intended as a political tool. It can subordinate itself to politics and churn out something great regardless and we have countless examples of that. The ones I gave were specific in the way that these pieces couldn't have been made without the politics surrounding them. It's not a case of politics being a byproduct or secondary effect of art. It's art being born from politics. You could easily make TLOU Part II and have a relatively similar game with the same accolades if you keep the social commentary out. Captain America without the anti-Nazi propaganda? That's not Captain America.

Name the countless examples of art surbordinating itself to politics and being great, please. Triumph of the Will and Birth of a Nation don't count because outside of their technical achievements, they have not survived as great works of art. Triumph isn't even art - it's a documentary that was impressively shot. Captain America literally only engaged in anti-Nazi propaganda for the first few years of his existence lol. Then he had to develop a much broader set of ideals and values. He would end up even questioning some aspects of the US government by the time you get to the 70s.

 

[GulfCoastZilla]

if something requires a consultant to understand and feel more natural... it's forced and not natural.
I am not racist and I don't hate lgbt but I am starting to

Re-read your sentence and it will make more sense.

If something is placed in the game it feels forced and not natural if say you have a straight person writing for a LGBT person.

You get a consultant so you don’t deal with the “forced and not natural” reactions from reviewers and fans post release.

And your last sentence? If you’re “starting to” you’re probably already there. Just accept it so when you get called out for this stuff at your job for example, be smart and don’t fly off the handle defensively.

 

[Melfice7]

Her skull is female skull, older(not old, older) guy can knock out woman cold with a single slap to the face, yet here hit to the temple, with a steel part of a gun does nothing?
Even if she eats performance enhancing drugs like candies for years, it doesnt make her skull, in most fragile place- temple- more resiliant, she should be just as fragile as any normal woman's skull.

did you also complain when 14yo ellie took a shot with a iron bar to the head (after joel got stabbed in the university) and just got up and kept going? adrenaline is one hell of a drug

 

[DForce]

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sounds familiar no? makes you think uh.... GAF, you should get educated. Just not educated enough to use your brain.... IT'S DANGEROUS!!!

This isn't an issue.

TV shows, movies, and video games have many writers and consultants to help write scripts.

 

[Franchise]

Terrible main character design. Ugh.

Whats wrong with them?

 

[Chuck Berry]

Bam Kacho

 

[PeteBull]

It's not whataboutism; it's demonstrating that you don't believe your own arguments. You're just throwing a temper tantrum because there's a female lead character who doesn't get damsel-ed.

Or, you know, just keep blathering "woke" over and over until it starts to mean something.

My money is to support high quality products, not woke trash, so yup, it stays in my wallet this time, i want either ultra masculine man or super feminine woman as protagonist, not some weird hybrid, that promotes lies like feminism and everything that is connected with it
If it makes any1 angry- so be it, im perfectly ok with it, i dont need to be given an OK to what i like or dont like, my money is earned by myself, so me and only me will make decision on how it is spent

U are free to buy 2(or 200) copies tho, to support games u like, i got no saying in that, same way u got no saying in what i like/buy/support

 

[Salz01]

The worst thing about all this, is that Naughty Dog games used to be met with excitement, and anticipation. Now they are just met with trepidation…

 

[Geometric-Crusher]

We need a gif of her drinking the haters' tears

how good this time is GTA 6 and intergalactic and many people outside the best that technology has to offer a pity, which is fun. You were deceived and are beating yourselves for nothing .

 

[proandrad]

The new generation of game devs are just selfish. They want to sell their soul to a corporation for money, while pretending that the main objective of the company is to change the world. These companies are amoral entities and with the budget this game likely has, selling just a 1-3 million copies won't be enough for it to be a success. Naughty Dog can't risk pissing off half the people that buy their games again, they already used up their good will with TLOUP2.

 

[DavidGzz]

I like the MC in this. Tbh, I don't like playing as a girl, especially one that screams like I'm watching Hentai, which is why Stellar Blade isn't for me, so the manlier they look the more I can get into the character. Abby was rad. The muscle made her fighting ability more believable. I'm glad this isn't a dolled up Asian girl with a tiny frame. Get outta here with that.

I don't need an ass in front of me giving me a half chub.

Funny thing, this will offend a certain group and my reverse psychology will bring back the hbbs for the coomers.

 

[EviLore]

It will be fun to see players feeling some secret desire for her even if they reject her for social reasons, nature is stronger than ideology. But there are always those who are afraid, well just remember that she is totally a woman at the end of the day.

An absolutely irresistible sexual hurricane unleashed upon the collective gamer subconscious:

 

[VenomousCoffee]

My money is to support high quality products, not woke trash, so yup, it stays in my wallet this time, i want either ultra masculine man or super feminine woman as protagonist, not some weird hybrid, that promotes lies like feminism and everything that is connected with it
If it makes any1 angry- so be it, im perfectly ok with it, i dont need to be given an OK to what i like or dont like, my money is earned by myself, so me and only me will make decision on how it is spent

U are free to buy 2(or 200) copies tho, to support games u like, i got no saying in that, same way u got no saying in what i like/buy/support

Just say that you don't think that women are people.

 

[Punished Miku]

Jaffe makes a good point that I agree with. The anime likely is the gameplay tease.

 

[Kacho]

Bam Kacho

I love how his popularity exploded by becoming the voice of the average dude. His takes are always on point.

 

[ElFenomeno]

the manlier they look the more I can get into the character. Abby was rad. The muscle made her fighting ability more believable.

Is this manly enough or ditching the hair and going bald is better?

 

[Geometric-Crusher]

A absolutely irresistible sexual hurricane unleashed upon the collective gamer subconscious:

while she was making the bed, her ass was interesting - see again - That's the irony of art, her hair can grow, she can take a hot shower, anything is possible. My bet is that this game will use sensuality as the plot progresses, I know how these producers think.

 

[DavidGzz]

Is this manly enough or ditching the hair and going bald is better?

Asi me gustan más o menos.

 

[diffusionx]

Hard not to think that most of the opinions of the trailer come more from the hate of Druckmann than any actual expectation of the merits of the game itself. He could probably change half the opinions just by tweeting "fuck dei" on some socials.

Is this not a good enough reason? Druckmann has a body of work. We know what he does. He's in charge of the studio. Everything in that trailer is of a kind with his previous stuff.

Mark my words, the game's protagonist will make many seductive insinuations, even with muscles she is still a woman, and normal men like women.
It will be fun to see players feeling some secret desire for her even if they reject her for social reasons, nature is stronger than ideology. But there are always those who are afraid, well just remember that she is totally a woman at the end of the day.

beauty is in the eye of the beholder but the primary emotion this character elicits from me is disgust.

If I can wait for the PC port and mod in Chloe then maybe we are getting somewhere.

 

[PeteBull]

did you also complain when 14yo ellie took a shot with a iron bar to the head (after joel got stabbed in the university) and just got up and kept going? adrenaline is one hell of a drug

Some things can break suspension of disbelief, some dont do it, its similar situation with guys watching superhero movies, we know its all fake and made up shit, but we watch the movie if its good and enjoy it, romantic comedies tho- women believe stuff happening there can actually happen irl, thats how it is with games/movies infected by woke/feminism virus, those cant happen irl, ever, just like those romantic comedies, and that is the reason they break suspension of disbelief for any1 who uses even lil bit of logic
Look what man's fist does to woman's skull, despite same weightclass, gloves and headgear, that is hard reality:


To believe this woke shit u gotta be crazy delusional, aka for example think women and men are equal, think in similar ways, have similar goals etc, in reality its completely different, in almost every way.

Suspension of disbelief - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Oh, and here that 14yo Ellie in a fight vs grown up man, totally believable coz she is much weaker and only wins by being smarter aka using blade, where physical strenght of a person isnt as important anymore, she was more nimble and had big dose of luck, not coz she overpowered the guy with physical strenght like we experience Abby doing in TLOU2

 

[AfricanKing]

You are miss understanding. I’m talking about the majority of people who buy these games are young males. That is the audience of most AAA games. Yes, they all try to expand the market to include women and women do play these games. But the majority base are dudes. Since this is a for profit company it should be made for the audience that buys their games. Your Jordan example would be like if they design a pair of stiletto for 200million R&D and loses a ton of money because it didn’t appeal to the biggest group that buys their products.

Truth of the matter is this game is not for “dudes” who are insecure about their own masculinity that they can fathom having to play a game where there own identity is not present in.

The audience for this game is very large .. they won’t have to worry about sales. The only people who need to worry are the disenfranchised gamers who only want models or white men staring in their media.

 

[duyxbox]

I'm a simple guy. My money stays in my bank.
Game = Entertainment.
Game = main char + story + gameplay + visual . With Main Char has highest priority because I am going to control him / her, going through their story. And I don't find it entertained when I am not interested in main char. Maybe the game is much more interesting, but to me, they've failed at the very first trailer.
I'm completely fine with female lead, but since when strong woman = masculine look alike? I've worked with a lot of strong women yet feminine (look and acting), when it comes to emotional control, stress endurance, resilience at workplace, completely top notch and highly respected.

 

[PeteBull]

Just say that you don't think that women are people.

Ahh, so when some1 doesnt subscribe to secular religion 2.0 like wokeism it means the person doesnt think women are ppl, thats a blatant lie.

 

[PeteBull]

Truth of the matter is this game is not for “dudes” who are insecure about their own masculinity that they can fathom having to play a game where there own identity is not present in.

The audience for this game is very large .. they won’t have to worry about sales. The only people who need to worry are the disenfranchised gamers who only want models or white men staring in their media.

Concord audience was suposed to be huge too, turned out 25k copies sold worldwide

 

[Madflavor]

Is this not a good enough reason? Druckmann has a body of work. We know what he does. He's in charge of the studio. Everything in that trailer is of a kind with his previous stuff.

I immediately guessed it was a ND game when I saw the design of the MC. Druckmann definitely has a type. Dude loves his Wildebeests.

 

[MayauMiao]

Truth of the matter is this game is not for “dudes” who are insecure about their own masculinity that they can fathom having to play a game where there own identity is not present in.

The audience for this game is very large .. they won’t have to worry about sales. The only people who need to worry are the disenfranchised gamers who only want models or white men staring in their media.

But why didn't we hear the cries of these "insecure dudes" when it comes to Stellar Blade, Black Myth Wukong, Bayonetta?

 

[AfricanKing]

Ahh, so when some1 doesnt subscribe to secular religion 2.0 like wokeism it means the person doesnt think women are ppl, thats a blatant lie.

“Woke woke woke”

That’s all you post, can you form an actual critical talking point that doesn’t descend into identity politics. Same tired argument we’ve heard for years - let me guess you watch Asmongold, Critical Drinker and The Quatering.