SLB1904
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Next-gen Racing Graphics Face-off | (Next-gen means current-gen)
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Sebmugi
Member
I have nothing to say about the rest and this is just a detail that is not visible in game, but I've never noticed this problem in other racing games. I often use the photo mode and often this nasty detail disturbs the photo
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TBiddy
Member
We all know that downsized gifs and photomode shots are much more representative of how gameplay looks than actual gameplay shots.
Monad
Member
Show me 1 in game screenshot of GT7 or GTS in 3d person view that looks more photorealistic than the screens above and can fool people that its real life. In photomode or drone mode i can also make it look photorealistic and no one will notice it that its from a game. Only time GT looked straight out photorealistic was in replay mode and scape mode. And how is FH5 cartoony looking when the devs literally captured the real sky and used photogrammetry and color scanning in different seasons to achieve the most true the life version of Mexico they experienced. They said that they handpicked the most amazing moments and crazy weather patterns that they captured. People really think that there are no colors in real life or that everything is lifeless.
Have you ever seen how colorfull a country like Mexico really is?
Look how much more colorfull real life can look in a country like Mexico
And yes GT7 lighting is also super impressive and realistic looking, they nailed it as always. But that doesn't mean that the lighting in Forza is not realistic or cartoony looking.
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pasterpl
Member
GT cars look great (except strange lines at the edges) but environment looks sh*t - just look at the buildings in the backgroundOne is real one is a game...
nemiroff
Gold Member
Fake Edit: Oh I'm so sorry, I just noticed you wrote "no replays", my bad.
Real Edit: Please don't get triggered, I'm kidding, every game can be caught out of bounds sometimes, including FH5, I actually think GT7 looks great - some times
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Utherellus
Member
gimme the name of whatever you are smoking.
Alpha playtest has been a thing since April 2021
Game is targeting Q4 2022 release, objectively being superior in fidelity and simulation complexity to the competition because of next-gen nature.
Yall expect GT7 to beat physic laws on 2013 low powered jaguar cores.
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Inviusx
Member
Its clear to me that some of you never saw or played Forza Horizon 5 running on a high end pc. The level of detail is unmatched, the lighting is incredible and the world is the most dynamic open world in a racing game. I play the game maxed out at 4K with 70fps avg and it looks better than any other game you can name (i have played all of them on PC and PS5).
Here some direct gameplay shots (in HDR it looks even better)
@Coulomb_Barrier lol yeah sure buddy
Yeah I don't think GT is ever going to come close to the insane environmental detail of FH. Anyone that says otherwise is kidding themselves. The game looks absolutely nuts.
I think GT still prevails in lighting though. If we had GTs lighting model and FH's world it would be the most bonkers looking game ever conceived.
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Thirty7ven
Banned
Pretty much reach the point in these high end racing games where they look as impressive as each other with the main difference being tone, style, and overall presentation.
There are a multitude of astonishing details on the cars, materials are rendered like no one else.
But in terms of environments, GT is still lacking, and lacking a lot compared to FH5. Sometimes, it's like cars are detached from the background: poor shadows, no AO, poor geometry,
NewChoppa
Banned
gimme the name of whatever you are smoking.
Alpha playtest has been a thing since April 2021
Game is targeting Q4 2022 release, objectively being superior in fidelity and simulation complexity to the competition because of next-gen nature.
Yall expect GT7 to beat physic laws on 2013 low powered jaguar cores.
I have a friend who was a part of the Forza playtests who said the game was being tested on Xbox One along with the Series consoles. Probably very hard for you to take my word for that (not sure if I can post any screenshots here) but take it as you will haha
Of course, there’s probably a pretty big chance the game ends up releasing on PC and XSX/S like they initially said, but I do find it a little odd that they’re testing the game on a console it won’t even release on. Guess we’ll have to wait and see
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SLB1904
Banned
Check your eyes mah man.
Sebmugi
Member
Fake Edit: Oh I'm so sorry, I just noticed you wrote "no replays", my bad.
Real Edit: Please don't get triggered, I'm kidding, every game can be caught out of bounds sometimes, including FH5, I actually think GT7 looks great.
looks like a snippet from an older build
Utherellus
Member
Flight Sim 2020 was also initially stated and targeted as Xone game. But they abandoned it for obvious reasons.
But I guess noone forbids developer to playtest game on past gen SKUs.
I fail to see how Xone can possibly handle the generational leap of such magnitude.
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FukuDaruma
Member
Loving the new 240p30 'raytracing'.
transformer
Member
I think both GT Sport and FM 7 were great games, and great looking games, albeit doing things a bit differently. I’ll personally going to wait to play GT7 and FM8 before making any judgements.
FukuDaruma
Member
1. Buy Assetto Corsa (the 2014 one, not AC Competizione)
2. Go to Ilja's Patreon and subscribe to download the CSP plugin version with rain: https://www.patreon.com/x4fab/
3. Install both Content Manager ( https://assettocorsa.club/content-manager.html ) and CSP and SOL ( https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/sol.24914/ ) with these settings:
4. Profit.
Enjoy the best simulator with the greatest modding community and more free cars, tracks and all kinds of addons than you will be able to use in your life.
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Bernd Lauert
Banned
Dude makes almost 20k a month modding a car game. Nice hustle.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Stunning! Poor FH5 reflections mod compared to this. /s
Mr Moose
Gold Member
Which one of those pics?
xPikYx
Member
The game is not GT...
Bottom one is the game but it's not GT. Only confirmation bias.
SLB1904
Banned
Wait? Those reflections supposed to bad?Loving the new 240p30 'raytracing'.
Lol
SSfox
Member
Forza can never beat GT.
FukuDaruma
Member
He deserves it. Most donations are just $1. He's been providing the most awesome support for any game, ever. AC+CSP has nothing to do with AC alone, it's like a whole new game. It's not just some graphic improvements or the day/night, weather and seasons. Even the physics are new.
Just this "better than Driveclub" rain alone it's worth it. Professional studios like Ployphony and Ployground should be fucking ashamed than ONE guy in his home does this stuff so much better than their teams with hundreds of people and millions.
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FukuDaruma
Member
What? no, no. I honest to god love 240p30fps reflections on a PS5. Truly 'next-gen' 'raytracing'.
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Skifi28
Member
If AC competizione can be done on jaguar cores, I don't see the issue. I think people really overestimate how conputationally demanding physics in racing games are.
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Bumblebeetuna
Member
Hot damn I need to play more Horizon 5Show me 1 in game screenshot of GT7 or GTS in 3d person view that looks more photorealistic than the screens above and can fool people that its real life. In photomode or drone mode i can also make it look photorealistic and no one will notice it that its from a game. Only time GT looked straight out photorealistic was in replay mode and scape mode. And how is FH5 cartoony looking when the devs literally captured the real sky and used photogrammetry and color scanning in different seasons to achieve the most true the life version of Mexico they experienced. They said that they handpicked the most amazing moments and crazy weather patterns that they captured. People really think that there are no colors in real life or that everything is lifeless.
Have you ever seen how colorfull a country like Mexico really is?
Look how much more colorfull real life can look in a country like Mexico
And yes GT7 lighting is also super impressive and realistic looking, they nailed it as always. But that doesn't mean that the lighting in Forza is not realistic or cartoony looking.
SLB1904
Banned
You don't even know how resolution works lol
Yeah go outside check reflections of real cars. They probably 100p
Anyway. On the 4th will be a glorious day.
You better get get that
of salt ready.
FukuDaruma
Member
You don't even know how resolution works lol
Yeah go outside check reflections of real cars. They probably 100p
Anyway. On the 4th will be a glorious day.
You better get get that
Do you? I've been a CG artist for more than 25 years, and I am not blinded by fanboyism.
There is a reason they barely showed any real gameplay, and the little they showed had all sorts of problems in shadows, shaders, LOD, reflections, textures resolution, ...
But hey, don't wanna rain on your hype and love parade. Keep up that illusion.
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SLB1904
Banned
There is a reason they barely show any gameplay.Do you? I've been a CG artist for more than 25 years, and I am not blinded by fanboyism.
There is a reason they barely showed any real gameplay, and the little they showed had all sorts of problems in shadows, shaders, LOD, reflections, textures resolution, ...
But hey, don't wanna rain on your hype and love parade. Keep up that illusion.
Enjoy mister cg artist with 25 years of experience lol
For someone not blind by fanboyism you sound like one lol
Sebmugi
Member
Loving the new 240p30 'raytracing'.
reflections from trees are always a disaster in many games.. i'm not going to put an image though from vista mode (with RT on) of FH5 on XSX which shows the same hideous and pixilated thing..
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FukuDaruma
Member
FukuDaruma
Member
GT7 amazing hyperrealism:
Yellow car enters tunnel and gets shadow.
White car enters tunnel... and there's no shadow. The car keeps the same lighting as outside the tunnel.
A second later the yellow car lits by itself inside the tunnel...
Sure this game is polished as fuck. Release is gonna be meme fest.
Yellow car enters tunnel and gets shadow.
White car enters tunnel... and there's no shadow. The car keeps the same lighting as outside the tunnel.
A second later the yellow car lits by itself inside the tunnel...
Sure this game is polished as fuck. Release is gonna be meme fest.
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Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
I never understood these discussions: we are in a position that no matter what platform you chose, you get some kick ass racing game delivered by the platform owner. Both Turn10 and Polyphony Digital are fucking wizards.
We should be celebrating.
We should be celebrating.
SLB1904
Banned
thats the problem, you have no idea what you talking about. that's a low-resolution user-created livery probably transferred from gt sport. instead of focusing on the livery. pay attention to the car lines.Here. Here's how resolution "works". "lol"
FukuDaruma
Member
I don't know about that. Haven't seen anything like that in FH5, but I'm playing on PC.reflections from trees are always a disaster in many games.. i'm not going to put an image though from vista mode (with RT on) of FH5 on XSX which shows the same hideous and pixilated thing..
Those low res reflections, updating at half the framerate are just as bad as GT Sport, but one generation and 4 years later...
FukuDaruma
Member
Oh, really? did your pal Kazunori "probably" told you that they will be using a low res "user-created livery" in their world wide presentation of GT7 in PS5?
GTFO dude.
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dano1
A Sheep
You do know that car is moving?Loving the new 240p30 'raytracing'.
GT7 amazing hyperrealism:
Yellow car enters tunnel and gets shadow.
White car enters tunnel... and there's no shadow. The car keeps the same lighting as outside the tunnel.
A second later the yellow car lits by itself inside the tunnel...
Sure this game is polished as fuck. Release is gonna be meme fest.
Just an FYI. The white car does have "a shadow" The headlights from the player car turn on and brighten cars in front when in the tunnel.
SLB1904
Banned
its because is the same exact livery used in the world finals lolOh, really? did your pal Kazunori "probably" told you that they will be using a low res "user-created livery" in their world wide presentation of GT7 in PS5?
thats the car livery. in fact im coming back to your post rub on your face when the game release
FukuDaruma
Member
What does that have to do with it being 8-bit level res, updating at half the framerate of the game and having such a short distance you see shit constantly popping in?
Anybody with eyes can see just how appalling this looks for a PS5 game:
dano1
A Sheep
Competizone Was $15 dollars and has a free Next Gen upgrade. AC is probably my second favorite racing game.
FukuDaruma
Member
dano1
A Sheep
You drive 80mph and see if you can make out a tree on your shiny hood? Now if it was tested going 10mph with the same results you have a case
SLB1904
Banned
shitting on gran turismo but praising this garbage.
what you even on about now lolOh, I see the problem now. You don't have eyes. "thats the car livery".
edit: i get it now, my dude thought it was an in-game livery LMFAO.
they don't make cg experts like before lol
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CobraAB
Member
Teh horror!on the other hand I think we will still have the problem of invisible smoke through the windows from the PS3
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