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[Kerotan]

Xbox engineers hitting every button on the keyboard at this stage.

 

[twilo99]

Then there's a solution for your problem: it's called PC

Sure, but this whole thing holds back game development, which by proxy effects my PC gaming as well..

 

[Trab-Pu-Kcip]

2026? Wtf are they thinking? More important. Where the fuck are the games?

 

[Putonahappyface]

Some of us prefer our controllers to last more than an hour

That was a low blow. It's true though I only have two DualSense controllers because of the pound shop battery decision.

 

[Taycan77]

When you aren't the market leader (or near enough on par) you will get ports from said market leader. In this case PS5 Pro versions of titles with higher dynamic resolutions and a few more effects. The true next-gen leap will kick-off in 2030 even if we do get PS6 in 2028.

 

[twilo99]

Where the fuck are the games?

On Nintendo

 

[Crayon]

I don't buy it. I see one console as a transitional thing. But a handheld seems like a lot of trouble for nothing.

 

[Little Chicken]

4-5 years should be sufficient to keep the console hardware a bit more current because the cycle we are in now is simply too long and you end up with really old
Hardware towards the end of the cycle

Exactly. Much better than the incremental upgrade of "Pro" consoles, too.

 

[NickFire]

4-5 years should be sufficient to keep the console hardware a bit more current because the cycle we are in now is simply too long and you end up with really old
Hardware towards the end of the cycle

Hell no to 4-5 year cycles. The games themselves often take longer than that to make these days. Never mind the costs of a new cycle on the consumers.

 

[twilo99]

I don't buy it. I see one console as a transitional thing. But a handheld seems like a lot of trouble for nothing.

Tell Nintendo.. they seem to be really confused on the matter

 

[Shin-Ra]

More hardware than games it's their motto

Selling more controllers than Nintendo is their game.

 

[Upper_Management]

At this rate I'm convinced Microsoft has no business plan for the games division and they are just throwing shit at a wall until it sticks.

 

[Hudo]

Weird. I've been told by GAF experts that Microsoft stopped making consoles.

 

[MisterXDTV]

Weird. I've been told by GAF experts that Microsoft stopped making consoles.

The can keep making them, selling them it's a different story....

 

[Shin-Ra]

Exactly. Much better than the incremental upgrade of "Pro" consoles, too.

MS couldn’t even be bothered to build a new UI and controller for Series S|X and you think more frequent hardware releases is going to be less incremental?

 

[Salty Popsicle]

Keep throwing shit until it sticks.

 

[Little Chicken]

MS couldn’t even be bothered to build a new UI and controller for Series S|X and you think more frequent hardware releases is going to be less incremental?

How is that a bad thing? The transition from X1 to Series was absolutely flawless.

 

[SNG32]

I feel this could work if it’s basically a pc with gamepass. If it’s locked to the gamepass and Xbox ecosystem then these are going to be dead on arrival especially if they are putting there games on Sony and Nintendo.

 

[Panajev2001a]

I feel this could work if it’s basically a pc with gamepass. If it’s locked to the gamepass and Xbox ecosystem then these are going to be dead on arrival especially if they are putting there games on Sony and Nintendo.

Exactly what I wanted a PC to be. No HW upgrades nor SW customisation and locked just to GamePass and Xbox… ok, would wait for Steam Deck 2 if that were the case .

 

[Panajev2001a]

4-5 years should be sufficient to keep the console hardware a bit more current because the cycle we are in now is simply too long and you end up with really old
Hardware towards the end of the cycle

You say that because the price of PC parts for the performance you seek keeps on raising bit by bit and people put up with it.

The semiconductor tech industry pace of progress is slowing down (has been for a while) and costs for each new manufacturing process upgrade are increasing as well as designing those chips is increasing.

Releasing more HW more frequently is NOT the answer. The cycles are long for a reason (and developers benefit from stable HW specs and not too many HW configs to target).

 

[Gojiira]

Who the fuck cares, one leak says their quitting, another says new Xbox in 2028, this one a Switch ripoff in 2026, who the fuck cares…Man everything about Xbox is everything BUT GOOD GAMES…What a utter trash fire

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Who the fuck cares, one leak says their quitting, another says new Xbox in 2028, this one a Switch ripoff in 2026, who the fuck cares…Man everything about Xbox is everything BUT GOOD GAMES…What a utter trash fire

Has there actually been any leak saying they are quitting the hardware business or is that just some blue bloods wet dream?

 

[clintar]

They are called PlayStation 5 Pro and Switch 2.

 

[Little Chicken]

Has there actually been any leak saying they are quitting the hardware business or is that just some blue bloods wet dream?

No there hasn't.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

No there hasn't.

I know, I was waiting for proof

 

[Gojiira]

Has there actually been any leak saying they are quitting the hardware business or is that just some blue bloods wet dream?

Thats the point…Just like the ‘leak’ in this thread…Its just nonsense noise. Its fucking boring, Idc if its some ‘blue bloods wet dream’, its Xbox fanboys doing all these ‘leaks’ not PS fans, riling themselves up. Hell its Xbox ‘influencers’ who leaked the going third party policy…Such a shitshow.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Thats the point…Just like the ‘leak’ in this thread…Its just nonsense noise. Its fucking boring, Idc if its some ‘blue bloods wet dream’, its Xbox fanboys doing all these ‘leaks’ not PS fans, riling themselves up. Hell its Xbox ‘influencers’ who leaked the going third party policy…Such a shitshow.

I at least brought a well known leaker into the thread I posted about nextgen starting very early for Xbox

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/rumo...next-xbox-is-coming-sooner-than-2028.1664724/

 

[Topher]

Here is the source. I'm not gonna lie......sounds intriguing. Handheld being made by the Surface team.

Timestamped

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Here is the source. I'm not gonna lie......sounds intriguing. Handheld being made by the Surface team.

Timestamped

Its why I have been using the term doubling down on hardware, this handheld device started making its rounds a few days ago in whispers.

 

[Topher]

Its why I have been using the term doubling down on hardware, this handheld device started making its rounds a few days ago in whispers.

Ah.......shit.....didn't I say something about it would be cool if MS came out with a handheld a few days ago and you chimed in on that? I gotta find that post now.

Here it is:

Just had a thought (mark the date). Xbox OS available for third parties would work extremely well for handhelds. I could see Asus and Lenovo jumping on that in a heartbeat.

 

[Little Chicken]

A Microsoft-made handheld with 'consoles' licensed to other hardware manufacturers would be an interesting scenario.

Having different licensed Xbox console hardware versus Playstation would be a bit of an Android v Apple scenario. All Microsoft would need to do is mandate a baseline spec.

 

[dem]

A portable that could play Series S baseline games would be kinda cool.

 

[Topher]

A Microsoft-made handheld with 'consoles' licensed to other hardware manufacturers would be an interesting scenario.

Having different licensed Xbox console hardware versus Playstation would be a bit of an Android v Apple scenario. All Microsoft would need to do is mandate a baseline spec.

That's really getting back to Microsoft's roots in how they approached Windows as well. I think it is smart.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Ah.......shit.....didn't I say something about it would be cool if MS came out with a handheld a few days ago and you chimed in on that? I gotta find that post now.

Here it is:

Yeah I have tried alluding to "new ways to play" and doubling down and even saying more flexible because I knew this handheld thing would be making its rounds and eventually come out

But people are accusing me of trolling now so I will stop, for now

 

[Topher]

Yeah I have tried alluding to "new ways to play" and doubling down and even saying more flexible because I knew this handheld thing would be making its rounds and eventually come out

But people are accusing me of trolling now so I will stop, for now

Trolling? Who said you were trolling?

Edit: Ignore that nonsense man. I know I and others appreciate the insight you bring here.

 

[twilo99]

Has there actually been any leak saying they are quitting the hardware business or is that just some blue bloods wet dream?

For whatever reason the hardcore PlayStation fanboyz don't want Microsoft in the console hardware business because...I dunno, maybe it interferes with their Sony based identity, or something, but any competition on the hardware side is simply not tolerated.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

I don't buy it. I see one console as a transitional thing. But a handheld seems like a lot of trouble for nothing.

Well it would be a hybrid to function as the entry model. Problem is the pricing could be high even on this.

 

[VaultBoy101]

2026? Wtf are they thinking? More important. Where the fuck are the games?

Yeah, I bought an Xbox One (at launch!) and it only had a handful of exclusive games I wanted to play over its lifetime. Then I bought a Series X (at launch!) and there has been exactly 1 exclusive game in 3 years that I really wanted to play. Why would I buy the next one?

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times, new console who dis?

 

[Syphon Filter]

Just buy Valve and finally integrate Windows and Steam.

hell no, keep MS away from Valve. they tried btw and valve said no, they are a private company meaning they cant be bought hostile.

 

[twilo99]

Maybe they can do something with Nvidia... they certainly throw enough money at them lol

 

[Raonak]

Why would anyone buy this over a steam deck, switch2, and whatever sony puts out?

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Trolling? Who said you were trolling?

Edit: Ignore that nonsense man. I know I and others appreciate the insight you bring here.

I appreciate the kind words but honestly if people remotely think I am trolling then I will quit.

People can disagree with me all they want but to think I would purposely troll people here, I mean I'm an old dude, I havent done that, well since my playing days I was a pretty big ass actually 30 years ago

 

[Topher]

I appreciate the kind words but honestly if people remotely think I am trolling then I will quit.

People can disagree with me all they want but to think I would purposely troll people here, I mean I'm an old dude, I havent done that, well since my playing days I was a pretty big ass actually 30 years ago

Aw man........I'm actually embarassed when I think about how big of an ass I was 30 years ago so you are in good company my man.

 

[Crayon]

Well it would be a hybrid to function as the entry model. Problem is the pricing could be high even on this.

Well there's several issues. First of all, this thing might be around Siri's s level performance? So that would mean you have something presumably far more performance than a series x, and your widening the spread to the small console even more than the series this was.

Next, are they trying to steal Nintendo customers? I don't see how that's going to be any easier than enticing PlayStation customers, and they've had no luck doing that. Opposite, actually.

Then, taking on the distinct engineering challenge of making a portable alongside a full console sounds like a lot. Especially after their work on the series x was a bit of a disaster from the standpoint of build cost.

I could see a streaming handheld with mobile built-in. Or I guess a full portable if they're going to go up market with expensive systems for fewer people.

Idk, I've never heard of this guy. It really sounds like someone spitballing.

 

[Gamerguy84]

Wonder if the handheld will be a streaming device like portal but also w cloud capability

 

[SneakersSO]

Its why I have been using the term doubling down on hardware, this handheld device started making its rounds a few days ago in whispers.

I honestly wouldn't even describe this as 'doubling down'.

There is really only one scenario I can envision where a product like this could potentially release and do well in, and tbqh, I don't see the current Xbox team being capable of pulling it off. Even with the handful of timed exclusives they do have planned for this, they are so out of their depth.

But hey, i'm always down for a company to swing for the fences. Watching MS flail has been entertaining for the last 15 years. Ain't my money they are burning chasing windmills.

 

[LordBritish]

Just call it Xbox Jr. thats all I ask

 

[Astray]

Why would you buy a Honda or BMW when you can get a Ford or a Hyundai?

Imagine calling anything Xbox a BMW lol.

 

[Alebrije]

Good news is that on less than a week we will know what Microsoft Will do with Xbone división

But no matter what way they take Phil won't be there to see the outcome.

 

[IDappa]

Why would anyone buy this over a steam deck, switch2, and whatever sony puts out?

Steam deck isn’t really available everywhere ( my region included). I would assume its specs would be catering to higher fidelity over Nintendo software. Also could be cool if this had the ability to access steam also. Be a mix of Xbox/steam handheld. Added bonus if you’re able to dock it to your tv setup with ease. Would be a good reasons get it.