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[Men_in_Boxes]

It isn’t the number of calls, it is when they happen.

It's both. They benefit from getting lopsided calls and getting lopsided non calls. Really hard to beat a team with refs in their pocket.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

 

[Mortisfacio]

It’s gotten so bad the people calling the games are calling it out.

This is what I notice. I watch less and less football each year as being a Miami fan, it's just rough, but anecdotally I've never heard announcers and rules analysts (usually Gene) disagree more with a call than when it's a call in favor of the Chiefs.

 

[ManaByte]

So did the booth announcers.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Chiefs and eagles again. Come the fuck on

 

[Ownage]

Another shitty Super Bowl.

 

[ManaByte]

 

[ManaByte]

 

[The ninja farmer]

 

[ManaByte]

 

[12Goblins]

Can we stop littering this thread with garbage ?

 

[OmegaSupreme]

America loves a winner. Just not a winner who wins too much.

 

[ManaByte]

Can we stop littering this thread with garbage ?

Sorry but the NFL did that when they decided to rig the season for Taytay ratings.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Can we stop littering this thread with garbage ?

The cheating is the biggest story in sports. This is Cheats Watergate and you want to silence the people?

No.

 

[ManaByte]

The cheating is the biggest story in sports. This is Cheats Watergate and you want to silence the people?

No.

I stopped watching the NBA for more than a decade after they rigged the 2003 playoffs by giving the Lakers more free throws so they’d go to the finals over the Kings (because of ratings).

I’m feeling the exact same way about the NFL now. No one can win the Super Bowl as long as Goodell can get his Taylor Swift ratings.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

I stopped watching the NBA for more than a decade after they rigged the 2003 playoffs by giving the Lakers more free throws so they’d go to the finals over the Kings (because of ratings).

I’m feeling the exact same way about the NFL now. No one can win the Super Bowl as long as Goodell can get his Taylor Swift ratings.

I've watched a number of Tim Donaghy interviews and I'm convinced all the leagues are rigged. It's too easy to do with too much money involved.

That Lakers series was insane too. They know most fans are idiots.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Lasik going hard

 

[12Goblins]

The cheating is the biggest story in sports. This is Cheats Watergate and you want to silence the people?

No.

U kno ur onto something when manabyte is on ur side

 

[ManaByte]

That Lakers series was insane too. They know most fans are idiots.

One of the refs who worked that series wrote a book about it and literally said NY called the refs and told them to give the Lakers as many free throws as they needed to beat the Kings so they’d go to the finals because it would get more ratings.

 

[DeepEnigma]

tHeY mUsT bE mOrE dIsCiPlInEd

No, they just don't get called for blatant penalties like teams that play them do. As the great John Madden said, "every single play there is holding, it just comes down to when they want to call it or not"

Take this for example when they met earlier in the year,

 

[Loope]

To think i stopped watching football/soccer and started watching NFL some years ago because of the dodgy results/games and here i am watching the same crap unfold.

WTF US, i thought that at least in this sort of stuff you were better than us. Sure i've seen some dodgy calls here and there, but this blatant crap on the aFC championship game?

 

[DeepEnigma]

To think i stopped watching football/soccer and started watching NFL some years ago because of the dodgy results/games and here i am watching the same crap unfold.

WTF US, i thought that at least in this sort of stuff you were better than us. Sure i've seen some dodgy calls here and there, but this blatant crap on the aFC championship game?

Brought to you by the parlays of,

Draft Kings™
Fan Duel™
Hard Rock Bets™

You literally got current and ex players promoting this shit and logos plastered in the stadiums.

 

[Drake]

To think i stopped watching football/soccer and started watching NFL some years ago because of the dodgy results/games and here i am watching the same crap unfold.

WTF US, i thought that at least in this sort of stuff you were better than us. Sure i've seen some dodgy calls here and there, but this blatant crap on the aFC championship game?

So there's a reason the NFL is classified as an entertainment league instead of a sports league, so they can kind of throw their hands up in the air at this stuff.

Let me preface this by saying the Bills had a chance to drive down and win the game, so I'm not necessarily saying there was any shenanigans at play in this game, but here is how I think it truly works in the NFL. The players and coaches go out there and are legitimately trying to win the games, there is no "script" so to speak with that part of the game. What I do think happens is the NFL tells the officials in a round about way, in certain situations to give certain teams, not necessarily the Chiefs, a better chance to win. Maybe Fan Duel takes a bet where if said bet were to not pay out they would make untold millions of dollars. They let the NFL know about this, so the officials will call the game a certain way (It's not a guarantee, but it tips the odds in Fan Duels favor and over the course of a season and millions of bets they make a shit ton of money) . I'm very certain this happens in the regular season. Whether or not it happens in the playoffs, I have no idea.

The worse things to happen to the integrity of the NFL was for them to get in bed with all these gambling companies. I think eventually things will come to light. It may take a 10-15 years, but someone will slip eventually.

 

[12Goblins]

I've watched a number of Tim Donaghy interviews and I'm convinced all the leagues are rigged. It's too easy to do with too much money involved.

That Lakers series was insane too. They know most fans are idiots.

then bet the house on the chiefs???

Until you start looking inwardly instead of looking for a scapegoat or reaching for some Taylor swift grand conspiracy to help you cope with shortcomings, the chiefs will keep their foothold on your team's neck.

Both times in playoffs Allen is given 3 minutes to score and take the game, and both times came up short. Give mahomes the same opportunity and he is taking it every time. His autism and photographic memory give him that retard strength that he could b playing Superbowl or backyard football... the man has ice in his veins.

Regardless, with all the talent stripping from the Bills this year, I expected them to have the season the bengals had. The fact that they did so good despite those cuts and complete lack of WR is a testament to Josh Allen who is undoubtedly the MVP in my eyes

 

[ManaByte]

Give mahomes the same opportunity and he is taking it every time.

With the help of the refs.

 

[12Goblins]

To think i stopped watching football/soccer and started watching NFL some years ago because of the dodgy results/games and here i am watching the same crap unfold.

WTF US, i thought that at least in this sort of stuff you were better than us. Sure i've seen some dodgy calls here and there, but this blatant crap on the aFC championship game?

What exactly are we crying about ? The Allen turnover on downs? I can help you understand it if you want

 

[ManaByte]

What exactly are we crying about ? The Allen turnover on downs? I can help you understand it if you want

You mean the turnover on downs that was called a first down by the ref who could actually see the ball but was overturned by the ref on the Chiefs sideline who couldn’t see the ball?

Cheating.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

then bet the house on the chiefs???

Why would I bet on a team when the house can change the rules at a moments notice? Completely illogical.

 

[12Goblins]

You mean the turnover on downs that was called a first down by the ref who could actually see the ball but was overturned by the ref on the Chiefs sideline who couldn’t see the ball?

Cheating.

Wasn't the initial call that he was short? And under review not clear enough to overturn? I still haven't seen a clear still of Allen holding the ball past the line, so anyone saying some part time geriatric guy standing 20 feet away should be able to make that call accurately every time is just willfully stupid frankly

Regardless, if your QB sneak is that close and Allen isn't able to fall forward or reach the ball out and that's the play you need in order to beat the chiefs, you've already lost the game.

 

[12Goblins]

 

[12Goblins]

Why would I bet on a team when the house can change the rules at a moments notice? Completely illogical.

So it's like the Trump election rigging crying with zero proof until he wins then it's rigged in his favor, or its no longer rigged, or maybe it's still rigged but he's just that good, and just going with whatever narrative you like to confirm your worldview

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

So it's like the Trump election rigging crying with zero proof until he wins then it's rigged in his favor, or its no longer rigged, or maybe it's still rigged but he's just that good, and just going with whatever narrative you like to confirm your worldview

I love how we have replay and numbers that show a long term trend of Cheats bias but we're not allowed to question a game that's so easily rigged. Apparently, you're a deplorable if you question the modern God NFL.

 

[DeepEnigma]

 

[bender]

Bills would have won easily if they would have taken the ball out of Josh Allen’s hands and put it in their most productive player instead.

 

[demigod]

This gets thrown out thrown out there again and again. It isn’t the fact that the calls/no calls are not even. Obviously the refs aren’t going to see everything.

BUT the fact is the Chiefs get the calls to go their way when it matters 100% of the time.

It isn’t the number of calls, it is when they happen.


Couple that with the fact that Mahomes has a bubble around him since he is the mascot for a major sponsor and you have lopsided officiating. You can’t even form tackle him. Case in point the unnecessary roughness in the end zone.

it’s hard to beat a team when they have the built in safety valve of having a QB that can just scramble off tackle and not even worry about taking a hit. Bro gets like 4 extra yards every run because of it. You can see the defenders break down and then hesitate.

It’s gotten so bad the people calling the games are calling it out.

The Bills were ahead by a point. That offsides would’ve given the Chiefs a 3rd and 5 instead of 3rd and 15. Are you telling me that it didn’t matter to them when they are trailing?

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Bill Burr nails it...

 

[demigod]

I stopped watching the NBA for more than a decade after they rigged the 2003 playoffs by giving the Lakers more free throws so they’d go to the finals over the Kings (because of ratings).

I’m feeling the exact same way about the NFL now. No one can win the Super Bowl as long as Goodell can get his Taylor Swift ratings.

How naive of you.

So there's a reason the NFL is classified as an entertainment league instead of a sports league, so they can kind of throw their hands up in the air at this stuff.

Let me preface this by saying the Bills had a chance to drive down and win the game, so I'm not necessarily saying there was any shenanigans at play in this game, but here is how I think it truly works in the NFL. The players and coaches go out there and are legitimately trying to win the games, there is no "script" so to speak with that part of the game. What I do think happens is the NFL tells the officials in a round about way, in certain situations to give certain teams, not necessarily the Chiefs, a better chance to win. Maybe Fan Duel takes a bet where if said bet were to not pay out they would make untold millions of dollars. They let the NFL know about this, so the officials will call the game a certain way (It's not a guarantee, but it tips the odds in Fan Duels favor and over the course of a season and millions of bets they make a shit ton of money) . I'm very certain this happens in the regular season. Whether or not it happens in the playoffs, I have no idea.

The worse things to happen to the integrity of the NFL was for them to get in bed with all these gambling companies. I think eventually things will come to light. It may take a 10-15 years, but someone will slip eventually.

Just now? You guys must be new to the NFL or the betting scene. The phrase “Vegas called” has been around since forever. My dad used to place bets back in the 90s and he would always say this.

 

[DeepEnigma]

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Chris Collinsworth is a good one too for blowing mahomes.

 

[12Goblins]

 

[ManaByte]

 

[Soapbox Killer]

Once again it falls to Philadelphia to save us from tyranny!

 

[12Goblins]

Looks like copium levels has reached new heights where we have to resort to political cartoons

Definitely the refs that made Allen's 7ft tall 300lbs tush pushing bigass fail to convert 1 yard downs in a convincing fashion multiple times

In other words...

Spoiler

 

[12Goblins]

 

[DeepEnigma]

 

[Roronoa Zoro]

Looks like copium levels has reached new heights where we have to resort to political cartoons

Definitely the refs that made Allen's 7ft tall 300lbs tush pushing bigass fail to convert 1 yard downs in a convincing fashion multiple times

In other words...

Spoiler

Dude literally beat the chiefs with BS flags in the AFC title game. Though some other black magic luck was involved in that Patriots dynasty. To show I'm not just hating on the team on top I love the chiefs as a Steelers fan even though they beat our asses now and wish they win 8 Superbowls if the Steelers aren't winning

 

[12Goblins]

absolute stud.

 

[demigod]

Why couldn’t the Pats 3-peat after being carried by the refs and their bs made up tuck rule?

 

[12Goblins]

 

[AJUMP23]

Pretty good stuff.