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Nintendo’s president says ‘no change’ to Switch 2 announce plan

StereoVsn

Gold Member
Buy the time they announce their latest console, we're going to have a Nintendo toaster, clothing iron, and coffee machine
Nintendo team up with Toto next. Mario themed porcelain throne with bidet and Nintendo themed sounds.

My uncle at Nintendo smuggled in some prototype photos:

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StereoVsn

Gold Member
Relative to what? Q2 23/24 they sold 2.93M, this quarter they sold 2.62M. Seems very steady.
“For the current fiscal year Nintendo have modified their Switch forecast from 13.5 million down to 12.5 million for hardware and from 165 million down to 160 million for software.”

Sales are falling. Next year they will fall even more.
 

Robb

Gold Member
“For the current fiscal year Nintendo have modified their Switch forecast from 13.5 million down to 12.5 million for hardware and from 165 million down to 160 million for software.”

Sales are falling. Next year they will fall even more.
Obviously, it’s in decline so that’s to be expected.

I was just curious what falling ‘fast’ would imply. While they lowered their estimate, going from 15.7M to 12.5M doesn’t seem like a very fast decline to me.
 

MrJangles

Member
ffs the thing will be a relic upon release at this rate. A year or two back a PS4 level handheld would have been very nice, Q3 (at the earliest imo) 2025 however.....
 
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Dacvak

No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
Nintendo team up with Toto next. Mario themed porcelain throne with bidet and Nintendo themed sounds.

My uncle at Nintendo smuggled in some prototype photos:

J3uHuBh.jpeg



Nq7nFli.jpeg
Oh, I’d shit in that for sure 👍
 

ultrazilla

Gold Member
Nintendo has the luxury of time. The PS5 pro will be old news by this time. Neither Sony nor Microsoft will have new hardware out by next holiday season. Plus, they are still announcing remasters like Xenoblade, trying to keep current Switch owners busy for a few months. Nintendo has the next holiday to itself; it just has to stretch a little to make it there.
If the plan is to keep the new hardware going for at least 8 years, then they certainly should be in no rush to get it out.

I do think it's smart for Nintendo to avoid the PS5 Pro launch. Then not announcing until after the major holidays as to not disrupt whatever marketing/sales plans they have for the OG system.

At least Nintendo has thrown us a bone with narrowing down when to expect the announcement. I just hope they launch with a regular and "pro" Switch 2 skus.....
 

StereoVsn

Gold Member
Obviously, it’s in decline so that’s to be expected.

I was just curious what falling ‘fast’ would imply. While they lowered their estimate, going from 15.7M to 12.5M doesn’t seem like a very fast decline to me.
It’s accelerating though and it’s already around 20%. I mean it’s Nintendo so who knows what they will do, but it would be better to launch Switch 2 and keep older one as a cheap alternative.
 

Robb

Gold Member
It’s accelerating though and it’s already around 20%. I mean it’s Nintendo so who knows what they will do, but it would be better to launch Switch 2 and keep older one as a cheap alternative.
Definitely, and it’s in decline so they’ll obviously need to get out new hardware sooner rather than later regardless.

I was just curious. The current trajectory seems pretty steady to me, I was personally expecting the most recent quarter to be lower than it is.
 
What happened to the October announcement schedule?

Sounds like things haven't gone to plan. Hope this console doesn't end up being weaker than a PS4 Pro.
 

Tams

Member
Investors wouldn't have it. They need growth not on going decline.

They're not talking about a Christmas launch next year, rather that it'll be out by then and:

a) have had time for hype/desire to build
b) likely be uncontested for the hot holiday item
 

Tams

Member
What happened to the October announcement schedule?

Sounds like things haven't gone to plan. Hope this console doesn't end up being weaker than a PS4 Pro.

Nintendo never announced any such plan. All they've ever said is by the end of this (Japanese) financial year.

Some users on here (likely the ones who ate crow over the Switch) and some analysts made up some stuff about an October announcement. Both can safely be ignored.
 

Emedan

Member
They're not talking about a Christmas launch next year, rather that it'll be out by then and:

a) have had time for hype/desire to build
b) likely be uncontested for the hot holiday item
Id say desire is quite high already - announcement in January and release Mars or April depending on whether they want to boost the current fiscal years results or not,
 

nick776

Member
I really hope this ends up biting Nintendo in the ass. They just want to capitalize on Holiday 2024 sales, think of how many people would not buy a switch this Christmas if they knew a new one was coming really soon. I hope Nintendo suffers greatly because of the decision to delay and obfuscate. They need to be knocked off their pedestal for once, the hubris is amazing. My official wish for Nintendo, at this point, is that they will have another "WiiU" on their hands.
 

Hyet

Neo Member
If I was an investor I would be pissed,specuqlly if I looked for a fast return. They are on free fall results wise and they have nothing to show for the new system despite already being late with it. I would think something is going wrong behind the scenes or that they are not confident in the new system or the lineup.

As a player, I'm kinda... Fine. My switch backlog is gugabtic and full of games I am very eager to try out but they'll have to wait because DQ3 is out next week.

I am not super eager to spend good money on a new system soon (probably won't be buying at launch tbh) but at the same time I can't wait to see what games Nintendo has for it. This is the first significant tech jump for Nintendo since the WiiU so it's bound to be interesting what they do with the extra power. But if they don't live up to it it will be crushing.
 

Branded

Member
Damned if you do, damned if you don't situation here.

Although if I was Nintendo I'd finally slash that price of the Switch, just in time for the holiday season and also announce the Switch 2 sooner rather than later but fuck me right.
 
My official wish for Nintendo, at this point, is that they will have another "WiiU" on their hands.

I'm kind of in the camp that thinks that's what they are afraid of.

No question the console should have been released this Fall. Something is definitely going on.
 

nick776

Member
I'm kind of in the camp that thinks that's what they are afraid of.

No question the console should have been released this Fall. Something is definitely going on.
I think the longer they drag this out the more of a risk they face that it will become reality. They have built an impossible expectation at this point. Knowing Nintendo, it WILL be under-powered and will not live up to the expectations of the public. They need to go on and unveil the damned thing ASAP so they can get feedback before launch.
 
Did anyone think their plans had changed? They said all along since May it’d be announced (**not launched**) by the end of March 2025. Anything before Christmas was always a long shot. Not seeing the front page headline here.

March 2025 is 5 months away, and in the meantime they have Mario Party, Zelda EoW, M&L and Switch bundles to sell people for one last big Switch Christmas.
 
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I'm kind of in the camp that thinks that's what they are afraid of.

No question the console should have been released this Fall. Something is definitely going on.
I think the longer they drag this out the more of a risk they face that it will become reality. They have built an impossible expectation at this point. Knowing Nintendo, it WILL be under-powered and will not live up to the expectations of the public. They need to go on and unveil the damned thing ASAP so they can get feedback before launch.
Not at all. It doesn’t matter what the chatter is before something’s announced. Two years from now, no one will be saying “ugh I just hated how they were so quiet before they officially announced it! It just really soured me on the whole system.” That’s not a thing. That’s just internet bubble message board echo chamber stuff.

There’s nothing “going on”, Nintendo is busy toiling away behind the scenes preparing the system for launch and preparing software for the launch and the launch window and making their plans. That’s it. That’s their job. No reason to make up your own conspiracy theories based off of nothing more than you just are upset that something you want really badly hasn’t been announced yet. That’s on you, not them. 🤷‍♂️
 
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After return windows have closed so they can lock in the new bag holders.
No one buying a Switch 7-8 years in is a consumer who is going to have buyer’s remorse. It’s late-stage adopters, people who buy things for their kids, their grandkids, or themselves when things have been out for a long time and have built up a huge library of games.

And anyone who does closely follow the console industry knows Nintendo is on the cusp of announcing a Switch 2 in the next 3-4 months. It’s public information.
 
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Everyone seems surprised, but this is the Nintendo way. Hold onto success and eek out those last few sales of the Switch, then announce the next console and discount/promo the last few games in the Switch pipeline. Furukawa's Nintendo is one that wants to control the message and only focus on what they want to sell consumers at the current time. No distractions, no conflicting launch windows, they are fine to sit on releases for years and to delay announcements until the previous media blitz ends.
 
Everyone seems surprised, but this is the Nintendo way. Hold onto success and eek out those last few sales of the Switch, then announce the next console and discount/promo the last few games in the Switch pipeline. Furukawa's Nintendo is one that wants to control the message and only focus on what they want to sell consumers at the current time. No distractions, no conflicting launch windows, they are fine to sit on releases for years and to delay announcements until the previous media blitz ends.
Spot on. The death of e3 has also made it very easy for them to close ranks and just become even more insulated, secretive and quiet. Now they literally only put out news when they feel like it, with no outside pressure. They control the whole thing, and have very little/if any reliance on media anymore at all. They also basically don’t do interviews anymore, either. When they do it’s very rare, and completely out of the blue.

They also have greatly benefited from only having to produce software for one platform, instead of constantly having to juggle two systems at once, where each needs new games to be coming all the time. That’s one of the central reasons they’ve been able to hold onto finished games and put them out when it benefits them the most, vs constantly being behind on release schedules and desperately needing the next game to be finished so that they don’t miss a critical sales window. Must be nice!
 
No one buying a Switch 7-8 years in is a consumer who is going to have buyer’s remorse. It’s late-stage adopters, people who buy things for their kids, their grandkids, or themselves when things have been out for a long time and have built up a huge library of games.

And anyone who does closely follow the console industry knows Nintendo is on the cusp of announcing a Switch 2 in the next 3-4 months. It’s public information.
An absolutely ridiculous and unprovable assertion. Your whole post is filled with a bunch of assumptions that cannot be proven yet they're presented as facts. These type of I know it all posts are the ones I dislike the most.
 

Hardensoul

Member
Spot on. The death of e3 has also made it very easy for them to close ranks and just become even more insulated, secretive and quiet. Now they literally only put out news when they feel like it, with no outside pressure. They control the whole thing, and have very little/if any reliance on media anymore at all. They also basically don’t do interviews anymore, either. When they do it’s very rare, and completely out of the blue.

They also have greatly benefited from only having to produce software for one platform, instead of constantly having to juggle two systems at once, where each needs new games to be coming all the time. That’s one of the central reasons they’ve been able to hold onto finished games and put them out when it benefits them the most, vs constantly being behind on release schedules and desperately needing the next game to be finished so that they don’t miss a critical sales window. Must be nice!
After the disastrous WiiU announcement where the media was giving out mixed information. Nintendo started doing the Nintendo Directs where they control the information coming out. It has been so successful that now Sony/Ms does there own similar Directs.
 
An absolutely ridiculous and unprovable assertion. Your whole post is filled with a bunch of assumptions that cannot be proven yet they're presented as facts. These type of I know it all posts are the ones I dislike the most.
It’s just an obvious/common sense statement. And I honestly couldn’t care less what you personally like or don’t like. I’m not here to please you. Agree, disagree, agree to disagree, that’s up to you. Otherwise, I’d just advise move along
 
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Tams

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Id say desire is quite high already - announcement in January and release Mars or April depending on whether they want to boost the current fiscal years results or not,

Yes, but if you only give people a couple of months to buy one, especially for something that may be in short supply, then fewer are going to be able to.

Let it simmer over the summer and every other kid will be asking for one for Christmas and more people will have factored in buying one.

Plus, they also get to move more Switch stock this year.
 
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After the disastrous WiiU announcement where the media was giving out mixed information. Nintendo started doing the Nintendo Directs where they control the information coming out. It has been so successful that now Sony/Ms does there own similar Directs.
Well Nintendo themselves did a horrible job explaining the Wii U. Not to mention that they simply just didn’t have a very compelling concept to begin with, coupled with it wasn’t exactly pretty to look at. NoA and NoE were given an unattractive console to sell, and they probably did what they could with it. Anyway, whole different thread we could start on all the Wii U mistakes. 😂
 

Tams

Member
I think the longer they drag this out the more of a risk they face that it will become reality. They have built an impossible expectation at this point. Knowing Nintendo, it WILL be under-powered and will not live up to the expectations of the public. They need to go on and unveil the damned thing ASAP so they can get feedback before launch.

Lol. Imagine being this salty about wanting something that you don't even know is yet.

Dear Nintendo, please may you find it in yourselves to make the controllers a dildo and a buttplug, for the solely purpose of making N nick776 incredibly mad.
 
I think the longer they drag this out the more of a risk they face that it will become reality. They have built an impossible expectation at this point. Knowing Nintendo, it WILL be under-powered and will not live up to the expectations of the public. They need to go on and unveil the damned thing ASAP so they can get feedback before launch.
“Feedback before launch”? Hate to break it to you, when a console is announced it’s basically done. It is what it is. That shit’s locked in years in advance.

By the way, “underpowered” is not a mass market criticism or something most people care about. How many units has Switch sold? DS? Wii? It’s all about the games. Software sells hardware. Content is king. That’s it. That’s the ballgame. Switch didn’t sell 150 million because of the amazing graphics.
 
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Yes, but if you only give people a couple of months to buy one, especially for something that may be in short supply, then fewer are going to be able to.

Let it simmer over the summer and every other kid will be asking for one for Christmas and more people will have factored in buying one.

Plus, they also get to move more Switch stock this year.
Switch has proven this to not be necessary. News travels at light speed now. The Switch reveal had like 20 million views in less than a week, and that was 8 years ago. Nintendo’s whole culture is based around managing people’s expectations. The best way to manage expectations is to have the smallest gap possible between reveal and release, and find that sweet spot that gives just enough time for pre-orders to be filled and retailers to prepare. There’s simply no upside at all to giving something a year to build anticipation. If it’s good it will sell regardless. And Switch was so good after the initial reveal it basically sold itself, on the back of the positive word-of-mouth of BotW.
 
No one buying a Switch 7-8 years in is a consumer who is going to have buyer’s remorse. It’s late-stage adopters, people who buy things for their kids, their grandkids, or themselves when things have been out for a long time and have built up a huge library of games.

And anyone who does closely follow the console industry knows Nintendo is on the cusp of announcing a Switch 2 in the next 3-4 months. It’s public information.

An absolutely ridiculous and unprovable assertion. Your whole post is filled with a bunch of assumptions that cannot be proven yet they're presented as facts. These type of I know it all posts are the ones I dislike the most.
Literal quote from Nintendo President Furukawa, directly refuting your argument:

"President Furukawa said about the details of the Nintendo Switch successor, "There is no change in the plan to announce it during the fiscal year ending March 2025. I can't say anything more than that." Regarding potential hesitation to purchase the current model due to the announcement of a successor, he added, "I can't say it doesn't exist at all, but the Switch is already in its eighth year since launch. I don't think the presence or absence of a successor will have much impact on customers who are purchasing it at this timing."
 
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