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[SweetTooth]

People saying it has 1080p screen with HDR need to realize that a phones from 2017 had 4K with HDR screens.

Stop sounding stupid really, Nintendo threw a lot of marketing words for their kids to gloat about.. 4K output? Really VRR..really? 120fps .. really? RT and Dlss? We all know it will perform within the capabilities of the mobile die, it won't be anything special.

Also there is context for everything, there are more capable devices sold for way less that has more advance node, better internals more storage ...etc.

Nintendo overcharging for Switch 2 because they overcharged you for Switch doesn't justify the price of yhe console at all.

I have always said Switch is a $150-$199 device... Suddenly having Switch 2 at $450-500 doesn't mean your its reasonably priced device at all.

 

[DenchDeckard]

People saying it has 1080p screen with HDR need to realize that a phones from 2017 had 4K with HDR screens.

Stop sounding stupid really, Nintendo threw a lot of marketing words for their kids to gloat about.. 4K output? Really VRR..really? 120fps .. really? RT and Dlss? We all know it will perform within the capabilities of the mobile die, it won't be anything special.

Also there is context for everything, there are more capable devices sold for way less that has more advance node, better internals more storage ...etc.

Nintendo overcharging for Switch 2 because they overcharged you for Switch doesn't justify the price of yhe console at all.

I have always said Switch is a $150-$199 device... Suddenly having Switch 2 at $450-500 doesn't mean your its reasonably priced device at all.

What phone had a 4k hdr screen in 2017 and how much was it?

You are pretty much wrong on all of this.

Aren't you guys the ones that were happy Sony were overcharging you for ps5 pro?

Telling everyone to stop being poor when they complained about a 4 year old console cpu not getting a single bump. No considerable extra memory. No disk drive. Just a bigger gpu and nvme. Nothing else new. £800 with a disk drive. Switch 2 is half the price of the pro.

The cpu in the ps5 is ancient by this point. Did you know one x was doing native 4k at 30fps in games in 2017 for half the price of the pro. The ps5 isn't even doing that in 2025 and needs upscaling.

Switch 2 is easily worth the £430 with Mario kart. Personally, it's more exciting than any other console and I can't wait for it. I'd give em 500 for what they've shown with Mario kart. I'm over the moon tbh. Game prices suck though

Edit: And I only mention ps5 to you because you are the biggest Sony fan on here and any comment you make comes from a hatred of any other plastic box that plays games.

 

[jshackles]

People saying it has 1080p screen with HDR need to realize that a phones from 2017 had 4K with HDR screens.

The Sony Xperia XZ, which released in 2017 and had the world's first 4K / HDR screen on a smartphone, was $800 ($1,050 accounting for inflation). The screen was also only 5.5 inches. Not sure that's the flex you think it is.

 

[Minsc]

Hardware is priced in very strongly against the competition if it stays $450. It completes with Ally X for $800, based on what we've seen. It's definitely ahead of the Steam Deck.

But I will not be surprised to see the price increase a lot.

 

[dragonyeuw]

Nintendo made millions off joycons that were susceptible to drifting, and pretty much got off the hook for it. Making them 'more durable' so the consumer doesn't have to go through multiple pairs seems like something they need to take on the chin. That reason rang hollow for me.



'Why does the Switch cost $449?'

'Increases across the supply chain pipeline in the current economic environment has proven to be quite a challenge. We wanted to create a compelling follow-up to our most successful console ever that satisfies the technical demands of modern game development, while continuing to push innovatation in ways that our fans both demand and expect. We here at Nintendo look forward to meeting those expectations head on, and believe the set price achieves that delicate balance of compelling hardware, features and affordability.'

See, a simple bullshit PR statement I came up with in 5 mins.

 

[Gambit2483]

I honestly thought I was on a forum of enthusiasts but the last week or so, around switch 2 news is really showing me that its not the case.

Switch 2 is exposing a lot of people here indeed.

 

[Steve Holt]

What phone had a 4k hdr screen in 2017 and how much was it?

You are pretty much wrong on all of this.

Aren't you guys the ones that were happy Sony were overcharging you for ps5 pro?

Telling everyone to stop being poor when they complained about a 4 year old console cpu not getting a single bump. No considerable extra memory. No disk drive. Just a bigger gpu and nvme. Nothing else new. £800 with a disk drive. Switch 2 is half the price of the pro.

The cpu in the ps5 is ancient by this point. Did you know one x was doing native 4k at 30fps in games in 2017 for half the price of the pro. The ps5 isn't even doing that in 2025 and needs upscaling.

Switch 2 is easily worth the £430 with Mario kart. Personally, it's more exciting than any other console and I can't wait for it. I'd give em 500 for what they've shown with Mario kart. I'm over the moon tbh. Game prices suck though

Edit: And I only mention ps5 to you because you are the biggest Sony fan on here and any comment you make comes from a hatred of any other plastic box that plays games.

Just out of interest why would you compare the Switch 2 to a 'pro' console?

Shouldn't it be entry level console to entry level console?

If someone wanted to pick up a PlayStation 5, they could cheaper alternatives than a pro.

There is currently just one (expensive imo) option for Switch 2. And I say that with two preorders

 

[SweetTooth]

The Sony Xperia XZ, which released in 2017 and had the world's first 4K / HDR screen on a smartphone, was $800 ($1,050 accounting for inflation). The screen was also only 5.5 inches. Not sure that's the flex you think it is.

It was 2017...also ot was $800 not because of its screen but because it was a PHONE!

My point that seems to get over your hear and DenchDeckard head..is screen technology has matured 10 years ago, they are not as expensive as you guys make them sound to be.

Jeez

 

[SweetTooth]

What phone had a 4k hdr screen in 2017 and how much was it?

You are pretty much wrong on all of this.

Aren't you guys the ones that were happy Sony were overcharging you for ps5 pro?

Telling everyone to stop being poor when they complained about a 4 year old console cpu not getting a single bump. No considerable extra memory. No disk drive. Just a bigger gpu and nvme. Nothing else new. £800 with a disk drive. Switch 2 is half the price of the pro.

The cpu in the ps5 is ancient by this point. Did you know one x was doing native 4k at 30fps in games in 2017 for half the price of the pro. The ps5 isn't even doing that in 2025 and needs upscaling.

Switch 2 is easily worth the £430 with Mario kart. Personally, it's more exciting than any other console and I can't wait for it. I'd give em 500 for what they've shown with Mario kart. I'm over the moon tbh. Game prices suck though

Edit: And I only mention ps5 to you because you are the biggest Sony fan on here and any comment you make comes from a hatred of any other plastic box that plays games.

I was always saying that PRO was reasonably priced for what it offers, are you seriously comparing a 16TF GPU with custom ML and 2TB of storage with 1.5TF device?

Cmon Dench, run all value calculation on a paper and tell me what the result is. If that isn't enough.. use PS5 stat @$399 hell even use a Series X and tell me if Switch is good value for money or not.

 

[DenchDeckard]

I was always saying that PRO was reasonably priced for what it offers, are you seriously comparing a 16TF GPU with custom ML and 2TB of storage with 1.5TF device?

Cmon Dench, run all value calculation on a paper and tell me what the result is. If that isn't enough.. use PS5 stat @$399 hell even use a Series X and tell me if Switch is good value for money or not.

Dude the switch 2 is a 8 inch tablet. Running on low powered silicone. It's not in the same category as what you are putting it. Its not just the screen.

You didn't have phones pushing graphics like Mario kart world at 1080p 120fps in 2017.

That silicone costs money and it's nvidia. It's not cheap shit.

 

[Lunarorbit]

No problem with the console price. Wish it was for an oled screen but that's fine.

 

[ItsGreat]

What next?

My hobby is collecting Rolex watches. A 5000 dollar console will be absolutely fine too.

Hobbies aren’t cheap.

We are talking about a company which makes consoles and games primarily targeted at the casual/younger audience.

They have been priced out or simply put off. It’s no different to the PS3. Worse in fact cause the games are overpriced too.

It doesn’t affect hardcore gamers or fans cause they will buy regardless.

The problem is you are looking at it through your perspective and personal circumstances only.

Look at the through the entire Nintendo user-base.

Stop concern trolling.

If people don’t want to buy the stuff they won’t. It doesn’t matter how much you tell us about the pain caused to ‘casual/younger audience'

 

[SweetTooth]

Dude the switch 2 is a 8 inch tablet. Running on low powered silicone. It's not in the same category as what you are putting it. Its not just the screen.

You didn't have phones pushing graphics like Mario kart world at 1080p 120fps in 2017.

That silicone costs money and it's nvidia. It's not cheap shit.

Thats exactly what Im saying, Nintendo is being overcharged by Nvidia and passing the cost to consumers. Nvidia did it to MS in 2001, done it to Sony 2006, and now doing it to Nintendo.

 

[mckmas8808]

Translation = The tariff price increase has yet to come lol.

Basically.

 

[Muddy]

Stop concern trolling.

If people don’t want to buy the stuff they won’t. It doesn’t matter how much you tell us about the pain caused to ‘casual/younger audience'

Stop making excuses for the price.

If you can buy it then fine.

 

[Ritsumei2020]

Have money: buy

Dont have money: dont buy

 

[RoboFu]

well no shit. People have no idea the media on both sides just feeds them fear mongering 24 / 7 .


NEWS: This ________ the other other party is doing... "might", "could", "maybe".. BE THE MOST HORRIBLE THING EVER!!!


its $450 because its a freaking ps4 pro in a handheld.

 

[Pop]

Have money: buy

Dont have money: dont buy

What if

Have money: still dont buy

 

[GigaBowser]

reasons it costs thirs much is beacuse its a beest im sorry its all true my freinds best portables ever

 

[Ritsumei2020]

What if

Have money: still dont buy

Much wiser than

Have no money: buy

 

[Arsic]

Tariffs will be why it’s going to cost $650+ soon enough.

 

[DeVeAn]

The hardware is $50 more then it should be. People saying its not greed LMAO. Of course its greed. They ain't it this to take it easy on you. Goal is make as much as possible. 3DS is a shining example. That one bit them on the ass.

 

[Generic]

Switch 2 tech deserves that price point

120hz, VRR, HDR, Nvidia DLSS, ray tracing, 1.7TF portable, and 3.1TF docked.

Steamdeck $420 vs Switch 2 $450

This looks good but it's running in docked mode.

 

[Little Mac]

Kinda Funny podcast is saying tariff issue will increase the cost of the system by $90-100 dollars if not resolved in the next 2 weeks.

 

[Ritsumei2020]

Kinda Funny podcast is saying tariff issue will increase the cost of the system by $90-100 dollars if not resolved in the next 2 weeks.

Vietnam's tariffs offer rejected by Trump adviser—"Not a negotiation"

U.S. trade counsellor Peter Navarro called Vietnam "the poster child for nontariff cheating."

www.newsweek.com

Not looking great

 

[Ebrietas]

I was always saying that PRO was reasonably priced for what it offers, are you seriously comparing a 16TF GPU with custom ML and 2TB of storage with 1.5TF device?

Cmon Dench, run all value calculation on a paper and tell me what the result is. If that isn't enough.. use PS5 stat @$399 hell even use a Series X and tell me if Switch is good value for money or not.

Anyone who still claims the Pro is overpriced looks like an even bigger tool now.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Thats exactly what Im saying, Nintendo is being overcharged by Nvidia and passing the cost to consumers. Nvidia did it to MS in 2001, done it to Sony 2006, and now doing it to Nintendo.

Nintendo is not being overcharged, they both (nvidia and ninty) will have negotiated a price that both companies agreed on. Yes one company probably got a little bit more than they thought they would have, but you don't really know nvidia as a business if you think they would legit allow 100 odd million chip sales be lost.

Anyone who still claims the Pro is overpriced looks like an even bigger tool now.

If you legit think the switch 2 is overpriced, then damn. You're clueless.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Translation = The tariff price increase has yet to come lol.

I think things will get worked out

 

[Heisenberg007]

I think things will get worked out

Renegotitation of tarrif is bound to happen. Things can't operate like this forever.

 

[Panajev2001a]

That sucks major balls. It seems like the UK is being treated fairly for once.

Is that what any console manufacturer did this gen?

Why did the PS4 pro and one X not drop in price and the PS5 and Series X cost the same as the PS4 pro?

PS5 launched at $399 … and SonyToo? Using that again ? Is this a second child syndrome? “Ah well, we only give shit to the first child, second gets away with murder”…

It is a large and much larger than expected price increase overall, Nintendo not dropping the price for 8 years does not mean that an upgrade is now worth $100 more (because look at how much improved it is over an 8 year old console that still cost almost $349 so… this must be $100 more… this is worse than Apple logic ).

From Xbox HW stanning we are going to enemy of my enemy is my new friend ?

 

[Moses85]

 

[Celcius]

reasons it costs thirs much is beacuse its a beest im sorry its all true my freinds best portables ever

Those black bezels around the screen are HUGE

 

[SweetTooth]

If you legit think the switch 2 is overpriced, then damn. You're clueless.

If you legit think the PS5Pro is overpriced, then damn. You're clueless.

I can guarantee that I will get back to this comment once game comparisons start flowing and we start getting a solid base on where Switch 2 falls

 

[Alcibiades]

Maybe I'm just an asshole but like I don't find in 2025 a console that will lend years of entertainment for 450 to 500 bucks that catastrophic.

Imo I think most games will land in that DK range of 70, but the thing is we get so many other sales and deals on gaming of other platforms I think it evens out given Nintendo prices don't ever really go on sale.

But for those that think Nintendo is all consumer friendly weren't around in the 90s when they gave zero fucks to finger blast us at about 100.00 for snes games

I don't recall the exact price, but I my family paid 70+ dollars for Secret of Mana (United States). Keep in mind this is dollars from mid-90s. I think it may have been 79.99 or so, either way it was extremely expensive if you adjust for inflation.

 

[peek]

Systems seems fine ya? Havent looked in a bit, but i think its competitors like the steamdeck and copies are well into $700+ some over 1k?

 

[nnytk]

Why don't they release a DOCKED ONLY version for people like me and price it accordingly.

I never used my Switch as a portable device. I couldn't care less about the screen quality or hybrid/portable features...

 

[Ashamam]

Almost the entire thread missing the point. Discussion should be about
1. Speculation as to how much of the tariffs will be passed through and which tariff will apply, and
2. Will tariffs be wound back in time (hopium), or will they actually increase (unlikely outside china)

 

[pulicat]

People saying it has 1080p screen with HDR need to realize that a phones from 2017 had 4K with HDR screens.

Stop sounding stupid really, Nintendo threw a lot of marketing words for their kids to gloat about.. 4K output? Really VRR..really? 120fps .. really? RT and Dlss? We all know it will perform within the capabilities of the mobile die, it won't be anything special.

Also there is context for everything, there are more capable devices sold for way less that has more advance node, better internals more storage ...etc.

Nintendo overcharging for Switch 2 because they overcharged you for Switch doesn't justify the price of yhe console at all.

I have always said Switch is a $150-$199 device... Suddenly having Switch 2 at $450-500 doesn't mean your its reasonably priced device at all.

Why don't you show us a similar product with the same graphical capabilities and tech at a lower price than the Switch 2?

 

[SweetTooth]

Why don't you show us a similar product with the same graphical capabilities and tech at a lower price than the Switch 2?

Steam Deck vs Switch 2 (Handheld)

Notice that Switch will benefit from lower level access to its power vs the Deck

 

[pulicat]

Steam Deck vs Switch 2 (Handheld)

Notice that Switch will benefit from lower level access to its power vs the Deck

And ..... where are the details of each product's specifications for us to see whether or not that Switch 2 is overpriced?

 

[dano1]

Well not yet. If Vietnam doesn’t cut back there Tariffs on the U S this thing might be $680.
And that’s what Nintendo gets by having there consoles made by underpaid workers in a country that charges the U S 90% more to bring products there.

 

[SweetTooth]

And ..... where are the details of each product's specifications for us to see whether or not that Switch 2 is overpriced?

We have SD specs ready, and a 99% of the rumored (mostly correct) Switch 2 specs and I based my conclusion on that knowledge plus 40 years of knowing how usually cheap Nintendo are.

I will be the first to admit if I was wrong but Im mostly certain nothing will change.

I like your new tone of wanting to wait for the full specs sheet before having conclusions.

 

[Jesb]

The prices are what they are because they can. It’s that simple.

 

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I can't believe people are honestly complaining about 449 when we just had the the PS5 Pro for 800$. The amount of shots being fired at Nintendo is crazy. Like people are almost afraid of it being successful.

 

[Power Pro]

I can't believe people are honestly complaining about 449 when we just had the the PS5 Pro for 800$. The amount of shots being fired at Nintendo is crazy. Like people are almost afraid of it being successful.

People complained about that too? I don't understand the point of this post...you imply people can't complain about this price, as if people didn't complain about the PS5 pro, when people absolutely did.

It's just that we live in an age where protesting and complaining does jack and shit. Companies just seem to weather the backlash, because they're all too big to fail...which is a sad situation for customers.

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

I can't believe people are honestly complaining about 449 when we just had the the PS5 Pro for 800$. The amount of shots being fired at Nintendo is crazy. Like people are almost afraid of it being successful.

People complained about the Pro for weeks and it was $699 not $800, get your facts straight.


The Pro is also a premium device with the cheaper baseline PS5 coming in at $450 and comes with a free game. Why would you compare the Switch 2 which costs $450 for the cheapest to the Pro when the base PS5 exists?

 

[Mozza]

If a switch OLED is £299 UK and years old. I don't see how £399 is out of order considering inflation etc. Seems like a respectable price up.

Very true. But you have to compare the launch prices which make the increse even smaller.

 

[Mozza]

People complained about the Pro for weeks and it was $699 not $800, get your facts straight.


The Pro is also a premium device with the cheaper baseline PS5 coming in at $450 and comes with a free game. Why would you compare the Switch 2 which costs $450 for the cheapest to the Pro when the base PS5 exists?

What did people say on here. That it was unfair to compare a console that had been out for years to a new one just coming out.

 

[Trogdor1123]

is there a BOM anywhere yet? I’m guessing not but it would be nice to know what it actually costs to make the stuff.

 

[IntentionalPun]

I mean Nintendo is a publicly traded company expected to grow it's profits over time, and they think they can sell many 10's of millions at that price regardless of the price of the components (which likely are more expensive but not by much.) They have a greater chance of increasing profits that way vs. getting a lot more people to buy a Switch 2 than a Switch. (and it's a why not try both? scenario for them because they absolutely will sell out 10's of millions of devices at that price)

That's really all there is too it. And they are saying this now because they will be raising the price even higher in the US.

I think they may have over-shot on software price though.