Nintendo Switch 2 Motherboard leaked, confirms TSMC N6/SEC8N
Gameplay Gods Bless
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N6 is better than Samsung 8N Ampere and Tegra Orin were originally on so while it's old and dated compared to N3 and N4 at least it isn't Samsung.
Radical_3d
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LordOcidax
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Great start of the year.
LavitzSlambert
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Same as Steam Deck OLED, but with DLSS. So basically, $450 with an LCD screen to keep costs down, and some room to move to another node halfway through the life cycle.
LordOcidax
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Nothing can be confirmed yet. Can't find anything on Google with the serials.
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onnextflix5
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Dam still using n6, switch has been on that for years now. not surprised n4 and n3 really are really expensive that even Sony did not use them for the ps5 pro. So we are look looking at something similar to steam deck power wise, ohh well it is what it is.
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pacman4000
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Why do people think it's made on TSMC N6?
Pretty sure I found it , it is a 6 GB chip, odd the other is blank but 2 6 gb chips matches the rumored 12 gb of ram
LordOcidax
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Measures of the die size.
Thread title seems to be saying chip could be TSMC 6nm or Samsung 8nm, maybe based on size? I'm still expecting Samsung 8nm.
LordOcidax
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Pasta la Vista
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uhh this is underwhelming, they must really want to hit that $400 price
LordOcidax
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Based on what?
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Buggy Loop
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Peoples on Reddit are saying 8GB modules and it would then be 16GB dev kit (12GB production) and others are starting to guess die size with screenshot scale I mean yea…
We know nothing basically
We know nothing basically
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LordOcidax
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There's nothing clear at this point, die measures didn't match anything, but are in the range of 4-6, could be a custom 5nm at the end.
mckmas8808
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6nm GPU chip.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
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LordOcidax
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Thats not clear, and if is 6nm, thats confirm the leaked specs and that's not underwhelming at all.
Buggy Loop
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We don't know that
H58 means lpddr5xdram,
Here is more or less the part
The 104n vs 107n is just a different package configuration
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
We know it will have a motherboard. Also - chips are confirmed to be present.
LordOcidax
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James Sawyer Ford
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pacman4000
Neo Member
Lol, ok. In other words, they have no idea.
Buggy Loop
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9x to 14x depending on how they set the clocks. But .x numbers are pretty meaningless, we compare teraflops?
Ampere architecture with Ada features backported is already generational leaps compared to Tegra X1's old Maxwell.
8 core ARM A78 also bitchslaps a quad cortex A57.
This is a more powerful PS4 which way better GPU architecture than AMD 2012 Pitcairn's
No need to even go into ARM A78 vs Jaguar CPUs.
So while teraflops is probably 20~40% higher than PS4, It'll be pushing a lot more. Not to mention ML & RT hardware which was just not even a topic in those generations.
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James Sawyer Ford
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Maybe in docked mode, and even then only marginally so.
Handheld mode will be lucky to be base PS4 power levels
LordOcidax
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Investor9872
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6nm. Dated. That's true. But it's still better than the Samsung 8nm, so I'll take that as a win.
Generic
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Well. I'm curious if the mainstream audience (not the hardcore fans) will accept the $400-450 pricetag.
Soapbox Killer
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please...just make it stop.
LordOcidax
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That was the latest tech available when Nintendo started the development of the Switch 2, around 2020-21. 4nm was out of the equation.
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CamHostage
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UFS 3.1 storage is good news; it's not the even-faster 4.0 found in some modern phones (4.0 is also more battery-efficient) but it's clearly over the old eMMC and will allow some of the rapid-access features of modern consoles. 2100MB/s is a fun speed.
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James Sawyer Ford
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I suspect many will be just fine with a Switch 1
I'm actually curious how aggressive Nintendo will be on exclusives vs. simply doing cross-play.
blacktout
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I would read some of the other posts in this thread before taking the word of one of this forum's most shameless console warriors as gospel.
We actually know very little, but at least the rest of the speculation is better researched and less obviously driven by motivated reasoning.
Buggy Loop
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6nm
6nm
6nm
FFS guys
Nobody has any clue what fucking node it is using
There's just a bunch of nerds measuring pixels on internet on a reddit forum. Sorry to be blunt but that's fucking cute.
WHO even has a clue for a die that has its gates 4nm, 6nm or 8nm. An APU is not made of 100% gates and even more useless to try to measure a die size and guess especially since nm are meaningless for god knows how many years now for both TSMC & Samsung. Oh and we do not know T239 architecture, can't even compare it to one of Nvidia's automotive chipset as T239 was modified god knows how. Peoples claiming a node is bad or good are also fucking clueless.
To add even more potential confusion, Nvidia has its OWN nodes at TSMC exclusive to them. Just like Ada's 5nm... oops I mean 4N.. No, not TSMC's N4, Nvidia's 4N. Not the same. Which is Nvidia's N5++* recipe and thus 5nm... but really more like 4nm since also TSMC is using the 5nm tech and improved on it for N4??
SRAM density, are we talking samsung density here or TSMC? Not the same!
See?
You have more chances of guessing a node or throwing randomly a dart on a piece of paper with nodes than looking at this die size.
So we know nothing new than we did months ago.
6nm
6nm
FFS guys
Nobody has any clue what fucking node it is using
There's just a bunch of nerds measuring pixels on internet on a reddit forum. Sorry to be blunt but that's fucking cute.
WHO even has a clue for a die that has its gates 4nm, 6nm or 8nm. An APU is not made of 100% gates and even more useless to try to measure a die size and guess especially since nm are meaningless for god knows how many years now for both TSMC & Samsung. Oh and we do not know T239 architecture, can't even compare it to one of Nvidia's automotive chipset as T239 was modified god knows how. Peoples claiming a node is bad or good are also fucking clueless.
To add even more potential confusion, Nvidia has its OWN nodes at TSMC exclusive to them. Just like Ada's 5nm... oops I mean 4N.. No, not TSMC's N4, Nvidia's 4N. Not the same. Which is Nvidia's N5++* recipe and thus 5nm... but really more like 4nm since also TSMC is using the 5nm tech and improved on it for N4??
SRAM density, are we talking samsung density here or TSMC? Not the same!
See?
You have more chances of guessing a node or throwing randomly a dart on a piece of paper with nodes than looking at this die size.
So we know nothing new than we did months ago.
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LordOcidax
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Lol
Lol, that's doesn't means nothing, this only confirms the leaked specs. We don't know nothing about speeds configuration and even if the 6nm is true is not bad at all.
LordOcidax
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justiceiro
Marlboro: Other M
6GB? Lmao, Nvidia really put them in a bad path.
Anyway, at this point, this thing will have a emulator before is even revealed.
Anyway, at this point, this thing will have a emulator before is even revealed.
LordOcidax
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6GB x2 = 12GB