Hawk The Slayer
Member
Same, I personally never understand how anyone would find gaming achievements that doesn’t even unlock anything fun. I also don’t care for speedrunning, only time I did speed runs was during RE2 on the N64 AND ONLY because it’s required to unlock certain stuff. But I can even understand speedrunners more than just achievements since I can see some people wanted to try beating something a bit faster compared to their previous playthrough even though both anchi and speed running are useless to me.
But at the same time I don’t care if they do include them like if this thread never existed and instead this thread says Switch 2 will have platinum/trophics/medals or whatever that I wouldn’t mind either as I’ll just ignore them and view them as useless just like I always do if they don’t unlock anything in game.
So while I don’t mind or care if they’re included, I also definitely don’t mind that it won’t be included either lol.
Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
From a development perspective adding achievements to an ecosystem has a compounding effect on the release process. For something that has been baked in (PS3/Xbox 360) since the start of that ecosystems "digital presence" carrying that functionality forward probably seems very simple/easy from an outside looking in vantage point.
Completely agree with an earlier comment in this thread as well, if they are important to the developer they will implement them into their game. This is a sign the developer wanted achievements as part of their game design and it isn't something added in the time period before submission/launch.
I can count on one hand how many times I have seen a title get chucked from TRC/TCR/Lot check review because the 'chieves were not set up/implemented properly esp. for localization support.
Completely agree with an earlier comment in this thread as well, if they are important to the developer they will implement them into their game. This is a sign the developer wanted achievements as part of their game design and it isn't something added in the time period before submission/launch.
I can count on one hand how many times I have seen a title get chucked from TRC/TCR/Lot check review because the 'chieves were not set up/implemented properly esp. for localization support.
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DevilHunterX0
Member
Buying one at the MSRP on launch day would be considered as an achievement...
Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
It's basically stats, that's the short answer. Just because it's "gaming" doesn't mean that some people don't want to look at their path they carved out.
Think about sports it's to me in the same boat, when players play their sports journey is documented with touchdowns, yards, receptions, 3 pointers, batting average etc... I mean to some stats are worthless, some sports players care and some don't. I view it the same with my gaming performance it's nice to see it documented.
I mean I gotta say tho that makes no sense to me that you can understand speed runners yet having a checklist of tasks within a game that can often challenge a person, just like the speed runner challenging himself, doesn't make sense to you.. I sorta dont get that.
Let's be real at the end of a day playing a game gets you nothing of substance, it's satisfaction and enjoyment but there's nothing tangible you have from any of it.. So its really that easy is for some it's the satisfaction of set goals and challenges that are extra tied to a game.
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KungFucius
King Snowflake
Good. They are mostly lame. If someone has a good idea for achievements, they can just make what would have triggered one unlock something. Most achievements are trash. Though I do like the funny ones.
Lokaum D+
Member
No, lets wait until they add achivments and than It ll become an amazing feature for Nintendo fans.Of course not, lets wait until switch 4 when they introduce it like some amazing new feature like they did with party chat.
On a more serious note : fuck off Nintendo!!
Hawk The Slayer
Member
Not trying to be hostile, just my honest opinion that I can’t understand the achievement fans and honestly both speedrunners and achievement stuff are close enough that I don’t understand either of them being fun at all.
Like I said I’m not being hostile like I’m not going “muhahaha all games needs to remove them just so people that like them can suffer” as I said I don’t care/mind even if they include them in their game but just as I said I definitely also don’t care or mind that they’re not included again since I don’t care for them.
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Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
I hear ya not saying youre hostile just tryin to explain the reasoning behind it. It's just all preferences is all because I personally don't have any interest in speed runners not even in the slightest, but if that's what they enjoy I say go for it. Trophies aren't new and have been around a long time now so I think they've proved to be worth whole for those that like them otherwise they'd have probably faded off.
Hawk The Slayer
Member
Resident Evil and Ratchet and Clank games are usually great with their own in game achievements where you actually unlock actual stuff.
I think most indie games on Steam have that too like Infernax, Huntdown etc. I agree once in awhile there would be a funny achievement title that pops out forgot what game I was playing on Steam.
At the end of the day for the achievement that don’t unlock anything, it’s a thing that I don’t care for but don’t mind it being in either as it’s easy to ignore.
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Drell
Member
LMAO, you can blame Nintendo for a lot of thing, but blaming them for not giving you a list of task you have to do because you can't have fun otherwise on your shitty call of is not one sorry.Of course not, lets wait until switch 4 when they introduce it like some amazing new feature like they did with party chat.
On a more serious note : fuck off Nintendo!!
Puscifer
Member
Considering we have games that seemingly imply trophies and achievements are replay value and not actual gameplay or design I'm all for it.
Hideous Snake
Gold Member
Stopped caring about them for YEARS but that doesn’t mean games shouldn’t have them. Lots of people enjoy achievements hunting and all that shit
Puscifer
Member
Epic store is the worse one. Loud, overly designed and obnoxious. All that money going after apple and not even a quarter of that into UX design.
Lokaum D+
Member
proceds to find all koroks seeds in Zelda
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
I’m fine with Zelda Notes and the way they do in-game achievements in many of their games. And I’m also hoping for Elden Ring Notes as well but I know it’s a long shot. But it would be fcking sick
Nintendo consoles? Yes, but what do you think about achievements?
kpopSuperstar
Member
I am split on this, on one hand I do chase throphies in some games, on the other, throphies always felt like a cheap psychological trick to make people extend playtimes. I'm not sure its healthy.
Hawk The Slayer
Member
Unless it's Ratchet and Clank games and others like it cause Ratchet and Clank games always got useful achievement like stuff where you can unlock actual ingame stuff. This is from Going Commando but every game in it's series their own set of unique unlocks and different tasks. I know other games have something similar.
| Shoot 4 Pterodactyls. | ||
| Smash and Grab | Smash up the Megacorp store. | |
| Maktar Resort, Maktar Nebula | Wrench Ninja: Blade to Blade | Defeat Chainblade with only the wrench. |
| Vandalize | Bust up the Maktar Resort. | |
| 2B or not 2B hit | Defeat B2 Brawler without a scratch. | |
| Clank needs a new pair of shoes | Win 300 bolts from a slot machine. | |
| Endako, Megapolis | Destroy all breakables | Smash up the Circular City. |
| Operate Heavy Machinery | Smash 10 robots using the crane. | |
| Barlow, Vukovar Canyon | Speed demon | Beat 2:10 in Hoverbike Race. |
| Notak, Canal City | Planet Buster | Destroy the big floating globe. |
| Siberius, Frozen base | You can break a Snow Dan | Destroy the Snow Dan. |
| Tabora, Mining area | Heal your chi | Find all Crystals. |
| Dobbo, Testing facility | Old Skool | Defeat all the enemies with RC1 weapons. |
| Dobbo, Lunar City | Dukes Up | Defeat Mech with Melee Only. |
| Robo Rampage | Turn Lunar City into a parking lot. | |
| Joba, Megacorp Games | That's impossible! | Win the impossible challenge. |
| How fast was that? | Beat 2:27 in Hoverbike Race. | |
| Wrench Ninja II: Massacre | Take out all the enemies with only the wrench. | |
| Bye bye birdies | Take out 12 birds. | |
| Todano, Megacorp Armory | Nothing to see here | Destroy all Megacorp rockets along the tour. |
| Try to Sleep | Turn 16 squirrels into sheep. | |
| You're my Hero | Save all the tourists. | |
| Boldan, Silver City | No shocking developments | Ride the grind rail without a scratch. |
| Snivelak, Thug HQ | Moving Violation | Shoot down 14 ships. |
| Damosel, Allgon City | Midtown Insanity | Go grinding and don't get hurt. |
| Safety Deposit | Save all the tourists in the bank. | |
| Grelbin, Tundor Wastes | Be a Moon Child | Mine all moonstones. |
| General | Nano to the max! | Max out Ratchet's nanotech! |
| Weapon Envy | Got all weapons. Got all upgrades. | |
| Nice Ride | Upgrade all parts of Ratchet's Ship. |
For every few you do, you unlock ingame stuff like new skins, even some whacky stuff like mirror mod, or other funny stuff like big head etc.
It's pretty good and fair too cause these are just cosmetic and doesn't effect you ingame wise so it's also good for the people that don't wanna do it since it doesn't make you stronger. But for those that do at least you actually get something.
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Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
Yea Most these days are tied to optional bosses and quests, or missable stuff. That's why I like it also is because so many are aspects of a game where you need guides, so alot of them are getting you around to see more areas of a game that you may otherwise miss
ShadyAcshuns
Member
Lost interest in them last gen. Same for trophies.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Paid demo
Worse battery life
20 yo paid online service
No achivments
U$50 180p@10fps câmera
U$15 "nextgen" upgrade
U$ 500 hardware
U$ 90 games
U$ 90 Joy con with drift
"C" button
Don’t forget finally getting built in voice chat just to lock it behind a paywall.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
I like having achievements there even though I’m not that into them. Feels weird when they’re not there. It’s enough for me to get multiplats on pc or ps.
I collect VHS tapes
Gold Member
I think achievements are retarded and don't get why people care about them so much. I guess they can give some a sense of accomplishment?
having said that, people do care about them so it is odd Nintendo never capitalized on this. wondering what philosophically their reasons are.
having said that, people do care about them so it is odd Nintendo never capitalized on this. wondering what philosophically their reasons are.
Lethal01
Member
Hated the gamer scroe shit since the 360 days.
I don't want them to be a part of gaming culture, I cringe whenever I hear someone talking about platinums and it affecting what they buy and play
Drell
Member
Yes there are some games which are based around accomplishing objectives to progress, that's also what the binding of isaac and most roguelite function. But the thing is, these "achievements" can be implemented without having it as an OS level feature.
On the contrary, if you force this feature on your console, you begin to have games that have no reason to have any achievement to get some ridiculous ones: "bonk 10 times against the wall and we'll congratualte you with a useless message". I can't believe some people can get outraged by this and demanding this filler feature to be there while Nintendo has more urgent stuff to sort, like implementing good netcode in high demanding online games or not giving a freaking user guid as a paid game...
Iced Arcade
Member
Shame.
I know that are useless and I don't hunt or care about the number but I still love achievements/trophies. Always gives me little motivations to go back and play and play differently.
I know that are useless and I don't hunt or care about the number but I still love achievements/trophies. Always gives me little motivations to go back and play and play differently.
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Dr. Samuel Hayden
Member
Gotta wait 20 more years for Nintendo to catch up on this groundbreaking feature.
Also, achievement derangement syndrome is just so bizarre. Just turn them off if you don't like them.
Also, achievement derangement syndrome is just so bizarre. Just turn them off if you don't like them.
sendit
Member
You need a participation award to stay motivated?
DKPOWPOW
Member
I don’t give a damn about achievements but this is just fucked.
Wii U Shop music is still ingrained in my mind.
eShop is painfully slow and dull.
JusticeForAll
Gold Member
Never understood why people care so much about a digital "well done"-image for doing something in a videogame.
xrnzaaas
Member
It's always funny when people like to take a dump on the achievement systems, but no one's mentioning stuff like leaderboards from the arcades or competing in online rankings. At the end of the day they all don't matter and won't change the world, but they can give you some sense of an accomplishment or motivate you to stay with the game. Plus you can just hide the notifications if they're really bothering you and ignore achievements with idiotic requirements.
In my opinion no one should force Nintendo to introduce their own version, but it would be better than having only single games with built-in achievements.
In my opinion no one should force Nintendo to introduce their own version, but it would be better than having only single games with built-in achievements.
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Power Pro
Member
Then why go through the effort of doing achievements for your Zelda notes app? Nintendo wants to do achievements, but they seem to not know why people like them. This half ass way they've done it seemed like it always seemed inevitable that they'd eventually become a thing with Nintendo, since so many of their games have built in fake achievements. Whether you like them or not though, part of the point of achievements is showing them off on your profile or something. Whenever they do it just as some background thing built into the games that only you can see, it's very pointless.
i think we have a different view on what trophies are.
i can have fun playing a videogame without trophies. Personally i love them because it gives an incentive to play the game after you finish it. games are getting any cheaper and to me trophies are just a way to get more of a game after finishing it.
Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
How is it any different when an NPC sends you off in a quest to go kill 3 rabbits attacking their garden and award you a stick and 15 experience points?
Drell
Member
Still not a reason to get outraged for this...
Topher
Identifies as young
No more "fake" than any of the other activities that take place in a video game
Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
I just find this type of thought process absolutely retarded
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