Phife Dawg
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I think that's what he was implying. Of course GoW is first party, it's published by MS - is there even anyone doubting that? I know it's GAF and all but still.manueldelalas said:
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NPD Sales Numbers for November 2008
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The Autumn Wind
None will. The top brass will just blame poor performance on lack of Wii software sales and the cycle will continue.fresquito said:
Sound familiar? The argument hasn't changed a year later, and next year we'll be making the same one with '10 in place of the year.swerve said:
It's not that third parties haven't learned, it's that they don't care.
Starchasing
Member
Link said:
I am sure they care, they just dont have the kow how to exploit wii market ... it will take a while till companies can replicate Nintendo success.
The_lascar
Member
Thank you !Captain Smoker said:Brawl: ~ 3.700.000*
Gala.: ~ 3.400.000*
Tw. P.: 2.200.000**
MP 3: ~ 800.000*
*estimates based on officially NPD data, but should be close.
**source is a recently published IGN article, up to date data.
(for Zelda on 64, it's only OOT. MM do ~ 1 300 000.)
http://www.nintendojofr.com/redaction/nouvelles/?id=ttcQ
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The Autumn Wind
Trying to replicate Nintendo is exactly the fallacy third parties have been making. They should be filling in the holes Nintendo's software leads. I don't understand why everyone thinks third parties need this new, radical way of thinking when it comes to the Wii. How about trying to release a well-budgeted, competent title like the ones that are being released on the competition?Starchasing said:
Starchasing
Member
Link said:
I meant financial success, not replicating exactly what nintendo does..
many companies have been doing the same things forever dont expect them to change fast
because budgets are planed in advance... and they decided to invest their money in on the ps360...
Phife Dawg
Member
If they publish it, sure. Z&W, TC etc. are first party here in Europe too.TJ Spyke said:
Starchasing
Member
Scrubking said:
As i said earlier i meant financial success. To me most companies seem like they dont know what Wii owners want
Starchasing said:
They dont' know because they don't want to know. Their minds are made up that Wii is kiddie casual only and will not try to put other kinds of games on the System. And unlike the ignorant people on here who spout off that nonsense these companies have no excuse because they get the numbers and see what is selling. The best example is a Ubisoft exec who openly said that Wii gamers don't buy software.
Ubisoft UK Managing director said:
IF companies want success on Wii they need to pull a Guitar Hero and put a full effort traditional game on the Wii with the same features and modes as the other versions. As long as they only offer casual games and half efforts they will fail.
Starchasing
Member
Scrubking said:
thats what i meant when said they dont understand Wii...
ShockingAlberto
Member
Again, that's not what I said. Nintendo is not refusing to release holiday titles because they'd rather spend time developing their games completely and have enough breathing room to not need them to drive hardware sales. Nintendo of Japan has published and released a decent number of titles throughout the year for both the DS and Wii and NOA refuses to release them during the holiday season, likely to give more room to Animal Crossing and Wii Music.fresquito said:
There's no excuse for that and no one should be trying to make one.
ShockingAlberto said:
Then what is the reason? There's got to be a reason.
I don't know if this was ever confirmed true, but I read that the reason NOA VC lineup sucked was because hardware sales were so good as opposed to Japan. It is very much a possibility that this is true and sales in America are so good that Reggie doesn't care about releasing new Nintendo software and would rather wait for a better time where it can better help hardware.
Again I don't know what's going on, but there is a reason for everything Nintendo does other than "they hate us", "there is no excuse".
ShockingAlberto
Member
They do have some sort of weird plan of holding back games and, just looking at the results, I'd be hard pressed to say they're wrong.Scrubking said:
It reminds me of this episode of Seinfeld where George just acts against his every instinct and says the opposite of what he thinks he should say. So he walks up to a woman and says "I'm balding, live with my parents, and have no employment," and she agrees to go out with him, so he continues living like that.
It seems like Nintendo is just acting against what they did in the GC era of quick, but good translations and trying to keep the system afloat on their own shoulders.
CreatureX3
Member
According to IGN, this will indeed change for 2009. They claim to have already seen these 3rd party Wii games.Link said:
http://wii.ign.com/articles/936/936938p7.html
We shall see...
The_lascar said:Thank you !
(for Zelda on 64, it's only OOT. MM do ~ 1 300 000.)
http://www.nintendojofr.com/redaction/nouvelles/?id=ttcQ
Does the gamecube include twilight? or just WW?
Captain Smoker
Member
Just Wind Waker.MoogPaul said:
Captain Smoker
Member
PS3: between 141.000 and 184.000 untisHalvie said:
Flying_Phoenix
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Kandinsky said:
Yeah. I mean I'd hate for Square-Enix to release the game on the Virtual Console for $8 instead of me having to pay 5 times more for it.
Link said:
Yeah forget how SEGA has really stepped up to have the Wii basically be their focus console platform, let's forget all of the small/medium third parties now supporting the Wii, let's forget Dragon Quest X's announcement on the Wii, Tales of Mothership Wii Title, or the recent announcment of TMNT Brawler.
I know third parties aren't supporting the Wii like they are but saying that there was no progress with "things aren't changing" is just ridiculous.
the_prime_mover
Member
Wow, I feel like I am one of the very few people who actually game on their PS3. Sony must be shitting themselves with horrible software sales like that. Poor LBP - how could this have possibly happened Sony? Do most PS3 owners not buy games anymore? Or are they only buying multiplatform games? The releases this season where pretty good across the board so I think there must be a severe disconnect between Sony's marketing and it's install base.
I expect to see a strong decline in other companies investments in the PS3 library over the next year. Fortunately the odds of KZ2, Heavy Rain, GoW3, Uncharted 2 and Infamous being canceled are very low, so my gaming needs are covered for one more year . . . but unless something substantial changes with Sony's management, I expect developers will stop bothering to even make half-assed ports for Sony's system.
I expect to see a strong decline in other companies investments in the PS3 library over the next year. Fortunately the odds of KZ2, Heavy Rain, GoW3, Uncharted 2 and Infamous being canceled are very low, so my gaming needs are covered for one more year . . . but unless something substantial changes with Sony's management, I expect developers will stop bothering to even make half-assed ports for Sony's system.
civilstrife
Member
Don't worry people, this Wii thing is almost over.
Isn't this about the time that everyone is supposed to realize how dated their wii games look when compared to PS3/360 games and instantly regret their purchase?
The return lines at Retail are going to be EPIC.
Isn't this about the time that everyone is supposed to realize how dated their wii games look when compared to PS3/360 games and instantly regret their purchase?
The return lines at Retail are going to be EPIC.
2 Minutes Turkish
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the_prime_mover said:
Without trying to be a smartass, I think a big chunk of PS3 owners, might also be 360 owners.
Of all the PS3 owners I know including myself (about 10) 3 DON'T own a 360, the other 7 do. And of the the 3 that don't NONE of them play games all that much, let alone online.
They pretty much use it for Blu-ray or for one particular title. FIFA 09 usually.
As to LBP planet, what happened there is EXACTLY what I said in the official thread before it launched, but of course, was chastised for it. You can't speak logic to fanboys.
LBP is a great game, I bought it almost day one, but honestly, it's FAR too deep for the market Sony wanted to target. And the actual platforming mechanics aren't all that great. The meat is in the creation, and the creation ain't easy.
sprocket said:hey that chart was right about 2008!
Actually no, the Wii must be at 35M units or so right now, which is what they predicted for 2009. 2008 is 30M. Which is completely ridiculous when you think about it. I mean, how could a system that manages to sell 30M units in 2 years sell only 5M units more in its third year, even if it's a fad? *facepalm*
Rocksteady33
Junior Member
sprocket said:i was just comparing the bars. not the numbers im not that much a of nerd
Did you fail math class?
Aaron Strife
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I like how that chart assumes that all of the consoles will have 100+ million user bases.botticus said:Sorry, you're about three years early. The returns don't happen until 2011 (lots of Costco buyers, apparently).
boiled goose
good with gravy
sprocket said:yes I did. Which is why I am a programmer.
umm.. dont you need math for that....
(algorithms, systems, communications, etc..)
Edit: I hope he was being sacarcastic -.-