andthebeatgoeson
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NPD Sales Results for December 2006
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Nameless
Member
The Damage control is astounding....
If the 360 and Wii numbers were reversed, this thread would be twice as long..Anyway great showing by MS. and great showing by the DS. PSP numbers ar suprinsgly good as well.. And it isn't even fair how much the PS2 has sold. Kudos to sony for it.
If the 360 and Wii numbers were reversed, this thread would be twice as long..Anyway great showing by MS. and great showing by the DS. PSP numbers ar suprinsgly good as well.. And it isn't even fair how much the PS2 has sold. Kudos to sony for it.
jamesinclair
Banned
Oh crap, 12 pages to read through.
My predictions were so far off its sad.
Also, WOW at GC Zelda sales.
I WANT GC HARDWARE
My predictions were so far off its sad.
Also, WOW at GC Zelda sales.
I WANT GC HARDWARE
PhoenixDark
Banned
qftNameless said:
It would be somewhat easy to say the 360 is owning the next gen, but at the same time...it's not suffering from any shipping problems. I keep waiting for the other consoles to get rid of that problem but it looks like we'll have to wait until the Feb NPD, at least for the PS3.
I'm baffled at the Wii numbers. They're very good but I can't help but be confused: I thought around 1mil were shipped this month?
Are you really in denial, or just pretending? Can't tell. :lolmoku said:
I find it amusing at the outrage in the Media Create threads that Zelda didn't sell 1:1 with the Wii, and all the predictions that it would in the US. And now that it damn near does...denial that it's possible because of the lower than expected hardware sales.
With 1.1m units out there the Wii has not yet tapped out the Nintendo hardcore, not by a longshot. Not to mention more casual Zelda fans.
DayShallCome
Member
moku said:
That really is insanity... I mean, what was Mario 64's tie in? It couldn't have been much higher than Zelda's (if it was even higher)... and that's with 2 games at launch, not upwards of 20. The numbers are hard to believe, but most likely true.
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Nameless said:
That was to be expected though. Anyways, good show by Microsoft. Hardware is sell great, in the face of new competition. I don't know what everyone is talking about about shortages, only the Wii is hard to find in my neck of the woods. With Microsoft's 2007 lineup looking to destroy their 2006 lineup, plus the anticipated price drop, they have set themselves up really well.
Nintendo: DS domination seems unstoppable. However, WTF @ the Wii. They have dropped the ball BIG TIME. I cannot believe that they are having problems at manufacturing a gamecube ++. I believe that there is more demand but supply, but stil, damn, what a huge way to waste a chance and good press. Booo!. However, it is too soon to spell doom for them (next month we will tell) and well, perhaps the Europe launch had something to do with it.
Sony: PS2 kicking everyone´s ass but... PSP software numbers simply do not correlate with their hardware ones. And the PS3, well, it is reallly not looking good. Its present is secured due to the PS2, its future it is not so rosy.
Microsoft: way better than expected. But I find its software sales to be more impressive. Will they traduce into more third party support? If that happens, the 360 will be the dominant platafform in the US.
Sony: PS2 kicking everyone´s ass but... PSP software numbers simply do not correlate with their hardware ones. And the PS3, well, it is reallly not looking good. Its present is secured due to the PS2, its future it is not so rosy.
Microsoft: way better than expected. But I find its software sales to be more impressive. Will they traduce into more third party support? If that happens, the 360 will be the dominant platafform in the US.
MobiusPigeon
Banned
um ms has been in the black as far as making a profit selling the system goes for a few months now.tanasten said:
DayShallCome
Member
MobiusPigeon said:
Not quite. It is true that the costs of parts is below 399, but there are other costs that you have to account for (employment of hundreds/thousands of employees, upkeep of factories, ADVERTISING, etc). But with the move to 65nm fab, costs will continue to decrease. Microsoft is in great shape.
moku said:
I have a Wii and I don't have Zelda. GC Zelda ftw!!!
Good numbers for Yoshi's Island 2.
High PS2 numbers should be of no surprise. Best Buy and other major retailers were absolutely pimping and blowing out PS2 Greatest Hits titles. Frequently dropping them down from C$29 to C$19. C$109-C$129 PS2 + awesome C$20 games = big sales.
MightyHedgehog
Member
I know that I've been preaching it since E3. Sony's gonna bury themselves in NA until the price drops and some bigger titles hit.lollerskates said:
siamesedreamer
Banned
Chiggs said:
Like I posted in the other thread, I was at my Best Buy this afternoon and there were literally 70-80 PS3s stacked up on the floor. They were all the $600 version too.
The Best Buy is in Alpharetta, GA - an affluent Atlanta suburb.
Take that for what it is.........I'll be in the area again on Saturday, so I'll stop back by to see how many have been moved.
I should have taken a pic with my cell phone, but I didn't think about it.
kamikaze said:why don't you check vg***rts.org. :lol
here's the LTD numbers for north america according to them (vs. NPD's US LTD #s).
360 = 5.38M (vs. 4.5M)
wii = 1.86M (vs. 1.1 M)
ps3 = 0.86M (vs. 0.687M)
do canada and mexico really buy that many systems?
vgcharts numbers not only include all of north america but they also have 12 days worth of january sales in them.
HylianScribe
Member
Somebody explain to me how NPD did this?
The total DECEMBER ALL sales...which I assume includes all versions of a game in the total sales (IE all Madden versions lumped into 1 sales for the year)...did not have Twilight Princess in the top 10, when the GCN/Wii version combined had over 1 million, easily making it into that list?
Man, I called it. TP GCN December outsold both TP Wii in December AND TP Wii's November launch (individually). Nintendo really was right when it feared TP GCN would hurt Wii sales...I guess...
Probably of all the decisions Nintendo made last year, the TP GCN ones were the only bad ones. Nintendo killed TP in so many ways...I mean, they don't even update the official sites, there is no official soundtrack, probably no manga...it was nothing more than a tool to sell Wiis, and the GCN version they totally didn't quality test because of slowdown and shading issues that are rampant.
I believe everything said by NCL and NOA about TP last year was BS, I seriously think the game was done in 2005, and theh held onto it until Wii's launch to ensure it had a "killer ap".
Oh well...the next Zelda just better not be a sell out and a means to save the Big N's rear end in a clutch situation.
The total DECEMBER ALL sales...which I assume includes all versions of a game in the total sales (IE all Madden versions lumped into 1 sales for the year)...did not have Twilight Princess in the top 10, when the GCN/Wii version combined had over 1 million, easily making it into that list?
Man, I called it. TP GCN December outsold both TP Wii in December AND TP Wii's November launch (individually). Nintendo really was right when it feared TP GCN would hurt Wii sales...I guess...
Probably of all the decisions Nintendo made last year, the TP GCN ones were the only bad ones. Nintendo killed TP in so many ways...I mean, they don't even update the official sites, there is no official soundtrack, probably no manga...it was nothing more than a tool to sell Wiis, and the GCN version they totally didn't quality test because of slowdown and shading issues that are rampant.
I believe everything said by NCL and NOA about TP last year was BS, I seriously think the game was done in 2005, and theh held onto it until Wii's launch to ensure it had a "killer ap".
Oh well...the next Zelda just better not be a sell out and a means to save the Big N's rear end in a clutch situation.
Nameless
Member
PhoenixDark said:
I think Wii's numbers were off because people listened to Nintendo's projections(3-4 mill worldwide or whatever it was), saw that the Wii was not widely available, and assumed that the console sold through what Nintendo had promised.
But it is funny how Nintendo fans can dish it out, but can't take it. LMFAO, just look at the projection thread that predicted Wii>360, they were gloating like they were actual numbers.
All the companies did well overall, but that isn't the issue here. The issue is with the next gen numbers. Someone at Nintendo ****ed up bigtime with distribution and Sony just isn't selling as much PS3's as everyone thought. It's not even that our expectations for these two systems were high, the demand for the Wii shows that it isn't the kind of system that sells 600,000 in the biggest buying month of the year during its launch period. This doesn't mean these systems are doomed, but it does mean they dropped the ball pretty hard this month.
If high Wii sales continue then the problem was definitely distribution problems. To be honest though, I don't think there's any doubt there were issues; but studying the numbers for the next few months will allow us to gauge how much the demand was throttled by the shortages.
I think what I'm most disappointed by is that these numbers didnt really show us anything (aside from DS, PS2, and the 360's success) other than it was hard to get a Wii or PS3 this christmas.
You have to hand it to Microsoft though, even though they didn't get 10 million systems into gamers hands, they pulled a big enough lead to keep the competition at bay for quite a while. Fortunately for them, the other companies experienced some serious mis-steps during very important times. Microsoft had the same mis-steps, but they could recover long before the competition was out. Microsoft won the first round just by showing up. The next year is going to be pretty damn interesting (In america, Japan seems to be decided)
If high Wii sales continue then the problem was definitely distribution problems. To be honest though, I don't think there's any doubt there were issues; but studying the numbers for the next few months will allow us to gauge how much the demand was throttled by the shortages.
I think what I'm most disappointed by is that these numbers didnt really show us anything (aside from DS, PS2, and the 360's success) other than it was hard to get a Wii or PS3 this christmas.
You have to hand it to Microsoft though, even though they didn't get 10 million systems into gamers hands, they pulled a big enough lead to keep the competition at bay for quite a while. Fortunately for them, the other companies experienced some serious mis-steps during very important times. Microsoft had the same mis-steps, but they could recover long before the competition was out. Microsoft won the first round just by showing up. The next year is going to be pretty damn interesting (In america, Japan seems to be decided)
speculawyer
Member
xbox 360 > Wii + P3
I know . . . they were supply constrained. But the xbox 360 did do great . . . . better than any xbox month ever. Impressive for a $400 box!
I know . . . they were supply constrained. But the xbox 360 did do great . . . . better than any xbox month ever. Impressive for a $400 box!
MobiusPigeon
Banned
i think this is the most civil/quiet npd thread i've ever seen. :lol
kisakiproject
Member
Wasn't Wii supposed to have sold 1.2m not 600k? The 360 # is what early estimates said it would be. Also holy crap at Zelda attach rate.
speculawyer
Member
sp0rsk said:
So . . .
Japan = Wii > PS3 > x360
I think USA may be decided too . . .
USA = x360 > Wii > PS3
But what will happen in Europe? PS3 hasn't even launched there yet.
MobiusPigeon
Banned
wii60 to bring peace to the console jihad?
"But what will happen in Europe? PS3 hasn't even launched there yet."
i think the ps3 launches at more than $599 US in europe. ='o
"But what will happen in Europe? PS3 hasn't even launched there yet."
i think the ps3 launches at more than $599 US in europe. ='o
Scottlarock
Banned
didn't everyone say the 360 was going to get killed in the light of 2 new system launches? that nobody would buy a 360(solidsnake) and just wait until the ps3 became available?
MobiusPigeon
Banned
sp0rsk said:
i dont think its takes a few months for an answer. when you look at the software lineup for the year from what we know and couple that with the inevitable 360 price drop/restructured premium/core/hard drive and continued wii madness, the only solution is wii60.