chaosmaster(1)
Member
I'm wondering what's going on with Gears considering FH3 was on the list for best Xb1 sellers in Dec and it wasn't. Crazy to see that.
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NPD Sales Results For December 2016 (and the year's best selling games)
Electret
Member
Amazing performance for FFXV, on both systems. Really impressive!
Might as well post the SKU breakdowns, if you don't mind.
Disappointing indeed. Disappointing debut in its opening month, so I guess there wasn't much WoM propping it up in latter months. Franchise might be due for a switchup. In comparison, Halo is down but still good for AAA games in general, and FH3 has been a pleasant surprise.
Might as well post the SKU breakdowns, if you don't mind.
Disappointing indeed. Disappointing debut in its opening month, so I guess there wasn't much WoM propping it up in latter months. Franchise might be due for a switchup. In comparison, Halo is down but still good for AAA games in general, and FH3 has been a pleasant surprise.
The Emperor
Member
FF sales growth for month 1 NPD:
Final Fantasy XII - 896K (2006)
Final Fantasy XIII - 1.326 Million (2010)
Final Fantasy XV - 1.5 Million physical..likely >1.8 Million including digital (2016)
Final Fantasy XII - 896K (2006)
Final Fantasy XIII - 1.326 Million (2010)
Final Fantasy XV - 1.5 Million physical..likely >1.8 Million including digital (2016)
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Wakeup call for MS. Churning out barely iterative franchise games results in decay and lack of excitement over time if those series aren't substantially refreshed. I haven't played it, but it seems pretty by the numbers. Great game if you're into that, but I think a huge number of fans just moved on due to lack of interest. MS needs to be willing to retire games. Uncharted 4 went out in its prime and ND will be better for it.
Gears either needs to be re-invented, ala God of War, or better yet, they need to take the core strengths of what makes Gears of War good and apply it to a similar, but different, new IP -- similar to what Naughty Dog did with TLOU.
hanspampel
Banned
You should note, that the ranking is revenue based and not just units. The $79 version made a huge chunk of cod sales this year.
Also BF1 origin and xbox one bundle sales are not counted in the ranking
Done
Duxxy3
Member
Ugh, god no. Looks awful.
Keep in mind that the ranking is based on revenue and CoD has a $80 Legacy Edition that probably attracted much more people than a special edition normally does. Also, this don't include bundle, and last year the CoD bundle was launched very late.
It's possible that Infinite Warfare isn't the number 1 game based on total units sold.
Rhomega Beta
Member
I'm one of the people who bought GTA V.
I thought I saw it was number 9 (not that you made a big error)? And without digital, so would probably be a bit higher with digital.
The Emperor
Member
This bodes very well for the coming FFVII remake.
falconxcrunner09
Member
Holy shit at FFXV! Nice JOB SE!
xabbott
Member
I know it's just the US but whenever I see the top games of the year all the concerns I see in gaming forums, subreddits, and social media seem extremely insignificant. I mean in terms of yearly franchise fatigue, how important first party titles are, and how Final Fantasy was going to bomb.
Outside of those I'm surprised Overwatch is that far below The Division. I mean I know it probably has a large number of digital owners but still.
Outside of those I'm surprised Overwatch is that far below The Division. I mean I know it probably has a large number of digital owners but still.
Officerrob
Banned
GTA is just an absolute monster
How does it look awful? It still has the boss battles that we've come to expect from the series, but adds in non linear elements, and a bigger focus on story. Plus it continues from God of War 3, which is another big positive for me, as a fan of the previous entries and the lore of the series.
It's all subjective, but I think it looks great, and like RE7, I'm okay with the fact that the gameplay style is different; we've had upwards of 5 games in that particular style, so I'm okay with SSM changing it up.
Electret
Member
I just beat the campaign, and you're not wrong. A really, really solid and well-produced game. But in no way fresh or inventive. Super predictable linear narrative and encounter design, with a pedestrian story. In itself, that's not necessarily a bad thing as there isn't another game quite like it. But if you're looking to expand the franchise - or merely maintain numbers of past entries - something's gotta give.
Danke!
18% share for Pro across Nov in Dec seems reasonable for price-sensitive months.
Regarding the OG Xbox share - it would seem reasonable to think this SKU was driven greatly by low price. Anecdotally it seemed OG bundles were substantially cheaper than anything else. I think there was a 3 game bundle with Gears ultimate that was around $230. I wonder how that might bode for subsequent months.
Haha, your avatar and that response are too much. Yes, Gears does need to evolve, like every other game. GoW has been building hype because of it.
So people *are* here for new Final Fantasy games... just not spin offs or sequels.
Today you learned that the vast majority of consumers actually do not go online to complain about video games all day!
GHG
Member
In your opinion but it looks to be one of the most anticipated titles for this/next year. The changes look to be key for the continuation of the franchise.
If MS continue to churn out the same old gears every 2/3 years then the franchise will die a slow death. It was fresh when the first one arrived but now its tired and old, people have moved on.
xabbott
Member
It didn't even show up on PSN's top 20 digital sales post.
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2017/01/06/playstation-stores-top-downloads-of-2016/
Obliterator
Member
Indeed. If it's good × the nostalgia hype it will be enormous
The Emperor
Member
Yup. I still thik the brand as a whole would be rejuvenated if SE scaled back on ALL spin offs. Like eliminated any and all effort on them (okay maybe the mobile ones are too popular to not do this)...but crap like FF explorers we can do without.
Then put all those people to work in teams to get mainline FF's out 3 years apart from one another. This would ensure a smooth pipeline...and would mean teams can learn, grow and not be moved around loads like what happened in the past 15 years.
Mass Effect
Member
christ, GTA is going to still be on this list 3 years from now isn't it?
RDR2 will probably be the same
Agreed. Those numbers aren't bad at all considering the type of game it is as well as the launch timing.
As long as you understand that you are by far in the minority on that one.
RDR2 will probably be the same
Agreed. Those numbers aren't bad at all considering the type of game it is as well as the launch timing.
As long as you understand that you are by far in the minority on that one.
Duxxy3
Member
You should note, that the ranking is revenue based and not just units. The $79 version made a huge chunk of cod sales this year.
Also BF1 origin and xbox one bundle sales are not counted in the ranking
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Uhhhh... does that mean that BF1 sold more units (when including all sales, including bundles) than IW?
MatPiscatella
Member
So, not sure why media hasn't jumped on the top 10 lists we provided. Not sure if tabs were a challenge or something. In any case, I'll put these here.
Plus they're releasing it in multiple parts, so they'll make at least like 3 times the revenue they would've gotten if it was just one entry.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Agree a FF every 2 to 3 years would be great .
Since they have the FFVIIR this would be the perfect time to that .
SE really need to get there pipeline and big IPs coming out faster .
Mass Effect
Member
so... looking at that list, it seems like the platform split of FFXV isn't nearly as bad as everyone thought it would be?
I mean it's the 3rd game on the Xbox list.
I know but a lot of those games in the December top 20 were discounted to dirt cheap and promoted in sales though (for example, Bloodborne was $10).
DriftingSpirit
Member
hanspampel
Banned
Even UC4 could've sold more on a unit base as an exclusive
The Ps4 Slim bundle sold 1.2 million in December alone and likely above 2m for the full year.
The bundle was released in September. And the opening month was around 125k if I remember correctly.
But UC4 was already bundled in the limited edition original ps4 back in May.
Bundle sales are enormous these gen
CoD:IW sold around 2.4m units at retail in November
So, not sure why media hasn't jumped on the top 10 lists we provided. Not sure if tabs were a challenge or something. In any case, I'll put these here.
Any news about MS, Sony and Nintendo starting to provide digital sales anytime soon?
I wonder why they are against it at the first place
DarkLordMalik
Member
Wow @ Nintendo in the handheld chart. No third party there, lol.So, not sure why media hasn't jumped on the top 10 lists we provided. Not sure if tabs were a challenge or something. In any case, I'll put these here.
I'd like it if they had 2 or 3 different mainline FF teams all focusing on different styles, or even different settings (a FFVII-esque sci fi setting, and a FFT/FF9/FF6 traditional fantasy setting). One team could make an action RPG styled game, ala FFXV or FFVIIR, and another team that could make a traditional turn based styled game.
LordBaztion
Member
I was hoping this was the year for BF to beat CoD. Anyway congrats to both.
Also, I am very pleased to see FF selling well on Xbox, its my favorite of the year. I hope VII and upcoming titles in the series to be on the console aswell.
Also, I am very pleased to see FF selling well on Xbox, its my favorite of the year. I hope VII and upcoming titles in the series to be on the console aswell.
LowEndTorque
Member
GTA V prints money.
FalsettoVibe
Member
Glad FF15 is doing well.
Jawbreaker
Member
Very admirable placing for The Last Guardian on the PS4 chart. Does the math from earlier check out? It would place the game at around 300k sales on the NPD chart.
DriftingSpirit
Member
No digital for it either. Even better. I doubt digital sales were much to write home about but yeah. Every bit counts.
hanspampel
Banned
Don't you guys miss an *** there on Forza Horizon 3? Or did microsoft start to provide digital sales to the NPD Group? That would be huge news.
On the other hand Minecraft for WiiU has the asterix!?
Duxxy3
Member
tiebreaker
Member
Surprised to see Watch Dogs 2 there. I thought the reception was lukewarm.
Also, yay for FF XV. Big budget JRPGs still have a future in the west.
Also, yay for FF XV. Big budget JRPGs still have a future in the west.
So, not sure why media hasn't jumped on the top 10 lists we provided. Not sure if tabs were a challenge or something. In any case, I'll put these here.
You guys could have just gone ahead and called the Portables chart the 3DS chart
gundamkyoukai
Member
It was a very big drop from last year .
Which is one of the reasons why people say software was bad in Nov.
Pathfinder
Member
Watch Dogs sold great while it was out, and Watch Dogs 2 is a much better game.