cardinalmind
Member
Well, Since the two older consoles are still pretty expensive for an impulse buy scenario even when their supposed successors are already here I am not exactly suprised with their massive drop in sales.
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NPD Sales Results for January 2014 [Up3: PS4/XB1 #1/#2 best selling; Poke/SM3DW/ALBW]
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The thirst is real.
UpsideDownAce
Member
8 out of the top 10 selling games are on ps4. Seems like it has plenty of compelling games for most people
AvoidDaNoid
Banned
EA games. Just because Milli Vanilli sold tons of record it doesn't make them good.
There will be awesome games for the PS4 one day. Just not yet.
even more so, I'm hoping a lot of last gen stuff are getting next gen ports prepared.
Dark Souls II dying a painful death would be a damn shame.
UpsideDownAce
Member
As I said, for the majority of people, there's plenty of compelling games.
It's all a matter of an opinion. I enjoy plenty of EA games on the ps4.
It's all a matter of an opinion. I enjoy plenty of EA games on the ps4.
BoboBrazil
Member
It has some great titles like Battlefield 4, Black Flag, and Resogun, but that must have next gen title isn't out yet and won't be until atleast Fall 2014. Sony needs to do something like a $149 PS3 with 2 years of PS+ required or something along those lines to get units moving for them for last gen sales.
Square2015
Member
Is M$ more successful in the South? I'd like to see a US regional break down.
I'd guess it leans:
(Just for fun)
Northeast: Sony land
Midwest: Nintendo land
Teh South: M$ land
The West: Sony land
But then again it could be quite even.
I'd guess it leans:
(Just for fun)
Northeast: Sony land
Midwest: Nintendo land
Teh South: M$ land
The West: Sony land
But then again it could be quite even.
Fixed
As far as launch (and launch window) games go; it's got a very impressive lineup. Game rankings will back me up on this too. But ya, no killer app yet.
bigboss370
Member
i'm late to the thread but yeah, thats actually a really interesting point. That Steve Downes thing confirming Halo 2 Anniversary came around the same time too....
whats ND?
shinra-bansho
Member
I'm not really sure how one can consider the 3DS fine and that this is due to pricing. These sales, when it's not even 3 years old and just released its biggest franchise are quite terrible, and pricing being the culprit ignores that they also just released an $129 SKU.
I'd say it's showing signs of saturation already, having only sold about 11.6M units, which really implies a reduction beyond just the loss of the "casual" market, i.e. in the primary market for handhelds in the West - children and young teens.
pokeystaples
Banned
Nintendo Direct
UpsideDownAce
Member
BF4 was an absolute must have for me after playing that abysmal looking ps3 beta. Needless to say the launch day crashes were a huge bummer
BoboBrazil
Member
Selling every unit they ship. Demand is there. No stock within 50 miles of me at Target, Walmart, Best Buy, or within 100 miles of me at Gamestop according to their online store availability.
Japan launch maybe?
pretty done
Member
I'm just as hyped for DS2 as anyone else but in reality anyone releasing on last gen only in 2014 deserves any bomba they get. It's not like there's a shortage of games coming out in March or anything and people are sick of the old busted consoles. The sooner PS360 die off the better.
So 3DS dropping YoY not only in Japan but also in US. Nintendo next quarter results will be interesting.
TheDude711
Neo Member
Both consoles are doing awesome which is great for the industry. More console sales = more games overall.
Congrats to Sony though for the months #1 sales, now let's see those updates for dlna and mp3 and more apps while game devs bring great games to ps4.
Congrats to Sony though for the months #1 sales, now let's see those updates for dlna and mp3 and more apps while game devs bring great games to ps4.
Wolves Evolve
Member
If the 3DS is on the way down, we have a big big problem if we like games with buttons.
Canis lupus
Member
If anything, it would make more sense for you to say that the Xbox One is doing fine in America considering that the Xbox One is around 1.95M while the PS4 is around 2.20M in overall NA sales. The Xbox One would more than likely be higher than the PS4 in NA sales if it was the same price or cheaper.
Don't think it's doing all that well in territories in which the Xbox brand isn't that popular (i.e.: many other places around the world).
Canis lupus
Member
huh?
HORRORSHØW
Member
mathemagics.
Fixed. It's early in the morning. Still haven't fully woke up yet (haha).
Pretty sure very few of the early adopters picked up the 20GB SKU. If you're going to buy bleeding-edge, you bleed, money. Thing didn't even have wifi (not that any internet based PC or console should use that for gaming anyhow) and they pulled it off the market pretty fast, no?
Similar situation with me. Closet store that has one is 60 miles away.
Now here is the question:
Is this a result of supply issues due to the imminent Japan launch, proof that the Thirst still exists, or a combinations of the two?
The PS4 is probably going to start pulling away once the stock issues are dealt with.
3DS is a niche and antiquated concept in a connected age. Nintendo's dirt for diamonds hardware model and refusal to move with trends or pricing is their own, well-deserved grave. Death is a part of natural evolution: survival of the fittest and all. Samsung, Apple and Google are all working on controllers. As much as I adore my Vita, I accept it is the last of its kind. And why get upset about that, I'm sure that the Vita library - the software, the most important part - will end up on PS Now in the future (we won't see another PSPish thing in the form we know it now - that is certain). Games with buttons will be around for generations to come. The devices that they are attached to will be more unconventional than traditional gamers are used to though. Personally, I don't need 100 devices, so the more we head towards a convergence of services and technology, the happier I am. I think people fearing the "death" of the industry are glass half empty sorts. I don't see a death on the horizon, just a shift in how we receive our content. There will always be games catered to people who spend and play the most: AAA games. But the ecosystems and delivery of such content is in flux. Accept change, embrace it, and suddenly the future isn't so scary anymore.
I honestly think it's going to stay ahead as long as the system is $100 less.
Don't think there will be an almost 2:1 lead within future months that have major games on both consoles though.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
So if I hate digital distribution and want my games on dedicated systems only, your advice is to "embrace" a change that turns games into something I don't want? It's like you were saying "embrace war and it will not be scary anymore". I don't think this is how it works.
During all the Wii U troubles I figured 3DS would at least keep them treading water. If that is in major decline then wow.
1) DS hardware sales only declined 16% compared to last year. Software sales increased 6%.
2) The DS has not had a price cut for two and a half years thus saturating the current pricepoint. In fact the good sales in November 770K(up from 540K in November 2012) followed by a relatively weak December ~1M(down from 1.25M in December 2012) suggests even more that there was a saturation of the price point.
3) The $129 SKU is a gimped SKU and although lower in price is not higher in value. A $149 3DS and a $99 2DS would mean an increase in value proposition and increase sales.
Are you're really suggesting that if the 3DS was cut to $149 there would be no increase in sales? It would not just benefit from a price cut of 13% but also from crossing the $150 psychological barrier.
Wolves Evolve
Member
No. Way too much is made of supposed 'converters' to and from PC. Very few people use PCs in the way suggested.
Pretty sad numbers all around.
So it IS the PS2 all over again. Kekekeke
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
2:1 in US means PS4 is going to quickly run away with WW sales. MS are in serious trouble.
shinra-bansho
Member
It's a 16% decline from what was already a bad number for a two year old system. One should hope software sales would increase at least 6% with 51% more potential consumers on what's supposed to be a platform in its prime.
97K is less than half of what the PSP did in its 35th month; the also-ran handheld considered largely irrelevant for most of last gen in the US market. It's tracking only a million ahead of the PSP and will in all likely hood cross streams with it this year at the current rate.
I don't really think the primary market for handheld systems in the US knows what gimp means, let alone views the cheaper SKU as such. I don't think the parents buying the systems for them do either.
I'm not suggesting that a price cut won't increase sales, they generally do to some degree, although as price cuts go I doubt a $20 drop is going to do much. The $150 psychological barrier was already crossed by the 2DS, that was the whole point of the SKU.
A whopping 97K.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
97k
Wolves Evolve
Member
If Microsoft go for a 50 buck price cut to go with Titanfall, I think a lot more people would be ready to swing it.
(selfishly hopes the right people see this and it magically plants a seed)
(selfishly hopes the right people see this and it magically plants a seed)
Yes, because the atrocity of war and the choice - the struggle, as you would paint it - between purchasing a piece of software in digital or physical format are directly comparable. Holy hyperbole Batman. Maybe next we can have some Hitler and Lady Gaga parallels drawn by your masterful mind.
So is it possible xone sales were less than 300k worldwide in January? Considering during the holidays the US made up around 2/3 of sales. Even if the percentage dropped to a more even 50/50 split that's only 280k xones sold worldwide. The sales gap must be nearing 2 million even pre Japanese launch.
The 3DS is around 40M worldwide. Those are good numbers. They're not DS style great numbers but they are good numbers. 16% decline is modest but it is what you'd expect. Very clearly price elasticity comes into play.
If this was true then 3DS sales would be zero. But they're not zero because people do know the difference.
A price cut doesn't need to do much, they only need an increase of 10-20% to be comparable to last year. 2DS is in many ways a seperate product, even the name gives it away, 2DS is less than 3DS. Just like how MS didn't want Xbox 2 to be less than PS3 so they tried to become more than PS3 and went for Xbox 360.
It's possible since the US market is XBone's strongest market, MS already lost Europe with that price point. PS4 is going to dominate Europe without even trying.