Someone explain to me why in the holy hell people thought the PSP was going to outsell the DS? People call the PSP a failure but yet forget that Nintendo has ALWAYS dominated the handheld market since the birth of handhelds. Personally I think its amazing that the PSP has done better then any other handheld ever created when it comes to competition with nintendo handheld.
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NPD Sales Results for May 2007
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ShockingAlberto
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t-t-t-time warpJudgeN said:
Segata Sanshiro
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Someone had to eat a pair of children's Puma shoes because of how obvious it seemed.JudgeN said:
ShockingAlberto
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Damn. I can't find any pre-2006 threads about the DS and PSP.
Segata Sanshiro
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:lolJudgeN said:
Hindsight's 20/20 I guess.
Exactly, the stupid thing is that most people automatically connect the DS domination in the portable market with PS failure in the home console market.JudgeN said:
And I dont think your statement is correct, to many of those who bought a PSP the PS probably means something. Assuming not everyone uses it to only play Nintendo classics on it.
Grampa Simpson
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Posts may be hard to come by, but articles shouldn't be too hard.
Souldriver
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Plus the PSP is a fukcing powerhouse while the DS isn't. And the PSP looks lots better en 'cooler' than the DS (brick). At that time everybody thought the DS was a stupid and rushed handheld to keep the PSP from complete domination while waiting for the GBA-nextgen.Cruceh said:
But as you can see, it turned out quite differently.
Segata Sanshiro
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Quetz, I'm not sure I'm understanding you right, but if what you're saying is that people saw DS winning over PSP coming, or that people only expected PSP to carve out a small niche in the handheld market, then you have officially passed the line of delusional bullshit no-return.
Use Google, much better than the internal search engine.ShockingAlberto said:
I found Official: Nintendo DS Lite (aka Redesign Time) by neo2046 from January 2006
ShockingAlberto
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I think people are assuming PS3 failure because of, uh, sales.
Sorry, I can return the favor of not understanding what you try to saySegata Sanshiro said:
Basically, what I was saying at that time is that the handheld market it completely different from the home console market (with graphics less important and easy quick in/out gaming, size and battery life more important) and that people shouldnt underestimate the name Nintendo in that market. My expectaitions at that time was that maybe Sony would be able to become a strong contender over a generation or two if they try hard.
If you dont believe me try to find some of the threads around the time when PSP price was announced.
Grecco said:
Didn't read GAF back then but damn I never ever thought the PSP would outsell the DS even with the brand name "Playstation". By them being 2 different markets and third party developers always making the good games for nintendo handheld's, I just couldn't see them jumping that 10+ year ship to make games for the PSP.
People with this line of thought:Jocchan said:
- The PSP will kill the DS, it is so much more powerful and the Sony brand is the killer
- Oops, the PSP didnt kill the DS, graphics mean nothing, the PS brandname means nothing
- This time I wont make the same mistake again, from what I learned from the PSP/DS desaster is obvious Wii will kill the PS3
Not that I believe the Wii will do bad or the PS3 will rule like the PS2, but IMO only 6 month of sales dont point automatically in the opposite direction.
ShockingAlberto
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Uhquetz67 said:
No one's actually, like, said any of this in this thread. Or anything close to this.
You realize that the systems are actually out now, right? And we're discussing the sales of the systems in this thread? I suppose you could argue that someone somewhere on GAF posted this line of thinking a year ago, but people who are saying this now are saying it because of sales, not because they're making educated guesstimates based on the PSP/DS war.
ShockingAlberto
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sonycowboy, while a nice guy, makes really bad predictions.jman2050 said:
Souldriver
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SouthernDragon
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Even down to the "DS is for babby" kind of thing.
Joe Molotov
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JudgeN said:
Naive, deluded, or just didn't have the internet prior to 2006? Taking all bets!
Souldriver
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The only consistancy in all threads from more than a year ago is that our very own gaf-analyst SonyCowboy is always dead wrong. :loljman2050 said:
Sorry SC, not trying to offend you.
D.Lo
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Well the GBA was still outselling both DS and PSP for most of 2005 until the DS took off, and still held it's own against the PSP even up until the end of 2006.Barf_the_Mog said:
Here's some interesting figures, someone with better NPD numbers could probabaly do this better, I'm missing a few NDS and GBA months.
DSes sold since launch - 11,287,100
PSPs sold since launch - 7,660,100
GBAs sold since PSP launch - about 7,500,000
GBAs sold since DS launch - about 10 million
Nintendo handhelds sold since the DS launch - around 21 million
Nintendo handhelds sold since the PSP launch - around 16 million
Sony handhelds sold since the PSP launch - 7,660,100
Looking at it this way, the US has been almost as much of a bloodbath as Japan. Even in the last six months the PSP and GBA have sold about even.
God, the DS/PSP launch and period after were so crazy. Nowadays each handheld has their respective mindset that people have of them. DS is that crazy seller that defied all expectations and is home to many, many great games and the PSP is the handheld that still quietly gets solid/hit games and maintains good hardware numbers.
In the cluster**** that is "next-generation," the PSP and DS are seen much more in a better light. I'd rather have a DS and a PSP than any new console right now, what with price, hardware malfunctions, etc. being big issues. It's such a better time now.
There was a time when there was huge trolling on places like NGG, here, etc. People wrote off the DS, saying it was just a stopgap until Nintendo released a new GameBoy. PSP was amazing with its graphics and it would receive the biggest third party support because it had the PlayStation backing. Back then, it wasn't always "Nintendo has been the king of handhelds and they will stay the king." It was more "GameBoy/non-GB versus the PlayStation brand." People didn't know how well the DS would do as a Nintendo handheld simply because the GameBoy brand that had lasted for 15 years was being cut.
In the cluster**** that is "next-generation," the PSP and DS are seen much more in a better light. I'd rather have a DS and a PSP than any new console right now, what with price, hardware malfunctions, etc. being big issues. It's such a better time now.
There was a time when there was huge trolling on places like NGG, here, etc. People wrote off the DS, saying it was just a stopgap until Nintendo released a new GameBoy. PSP was amazing with its graphics and it would receive the biggest third party support because it had the PlayStation backing. Back then, it wasn't always "Nintendo has been the king of handhelds and they will stay the king." It was more "GameBoy/non-GB versus the PlayStation brand." People didn't know how well the DS would do as a Nintendo handheld simply because the GameBoy brand that had lasted for 15 years was being cut.
Man, barely any post touted in that thread actually came to light as is.
dark10x was right about there not being another Nintendo handheld (except for the micro I suppose), while he was dead wrong about DS being another Game Boy.
Insertia was wrong about FFIII being a DS port because they couldn't get away with a Famicom port on PSP. Ironically we now stare in the face of FFI and FFII Anniversary. :lol
No comment on Pimpwerx, Idiot Member, and of course sonycowboy.
But times have changed and hindsight is 20/20.
dark10x was right about there not being another Nintendo handheld (except for the micro I suppose), while he was dead wrong about DS being another Game Boy.
Insertia was wrong about FFIII being a DS port because they couldn't get away with a Famicom port on PSP. Ironically we now stare in the face of FFI and FFII Anniversary. :lol
No comment on Pimpwerx, Idiot Member, and of course sonycowboy.
But times have changed and hindsight is 20/20.
Version 3.0
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quetz67 said:
This comes perilously close to saying "get off your ass and stop playing those stupid videogames!". I think the Wii has warped your mind.
I realize you were talking about sports games, which I'm also not fond of, but it really does sound like you're grasping at any straw you can reach when it comes to anti-Wii arguments.
Count Dookkake
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JudgeN said:
Fixed.