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But if we listen to what Obama's opponents say, racism didn't exist in America until he became president. I'm just trying to see through the lies here.
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Oculus' Palmer Luckey funds white-supremacist/misogynistic/anti-lgbt harassment group
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Felix Lighter
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In comes the alt burner accounts.
The group founders and their rhetoric are linked to white supremacy. Alt right hero and insufferably vial GamerGate leader Milo Yiannopoulos is the man who connected Palmer to the group. This isn't, Palmer supports trump so he's automatically a white supremacist. The situation is exactly what the thread title suggests.
The group founders and their rhetoric are linked to white supremacy. Alt right hero and insufferably vial GamerGate leader Milo Yiannopoulos is the man who connected Palmer to the group. This isn't, Palmer supports trump so he's automatically a white supremacist. The situation is exactly what the thread title suggests.
The very definition of "fuck you" money, right there.
IlGialloMondadori
Member
Truth. Stand up for your beliefs all you want, but if your beliefs involve racism, white supremacy, and misogyny, and you are using funds from your company and its success to fund those things, then fuck you.
I'd argue that supporting Trump equates to the same thing as publicly saying you support all those things, but even if you somehow have the cognitive dissonance to not believe that, then still, fuck you for supporting an incompetent, racist asshat.
Supporting an army of trolls that shitpost and make the world a worse place, a group that involves neo-Nazi sentiments and bullshit men's rights misogynists, well, that's another fuck you.
Basically, fuck you Palmer. Fuck you forever.
Love this post - I think the only contention in this discussion was that you slightly don't get what 'alt-right' means. It's more about being contrarian and highly cynical, regardless of ethnicity/other socio-political markers. Usually with some super snide humour to boot. South Park borders on alt-right quite a lot, but I think it's just Parker and Stone going ham.
RadarScope1
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This is insane. I have no investment in OR but I would hope others who do are paying attention. It's one thing to donate to candidates but to support an army of trolls? It actively degrades a political culture that anyone can see is already toxic. Comparing it to funding the American Revolution? It's almost like he's not living in reality....
Or maybe he's one of the trolls being paid to undermine and play dumb regarding this election hoping that someone buys their FUD. "I've never seen Trump showing any sign of being racist", "Trump isn't against brown people. It's only against Muslims so that makes it completely fine guys!"
That place would be jail eventually. Legitimizing everything under the banner of freedom is misguided.
Atomic Edge
Banned
I read some of that, but can't actually see any evidence on their website or anything.
Well those things both suck, but not what this thread is really about.
Where did you see evidence for this?
I thought he was gay? Not sure about the race thing. I thought he had a black boyfriend?
Some of those tweets I've seen shared around are a bit much, but I'm not sure that she is openly racist. Seems like a bit of a dick though.
Many of these things are pegged to him by his opponents though, rather than based in fact.
Gemüsepizza
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Now reported by The Independent:
https://twitter.com/Independent
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...ulus-rift-founder-palmer-luckey-a7325176.html
https://twitter.com/Independent
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...ulus-rift-founder-palmer-luckey-a7325176.html
He's a "near Billionaire" at 24.
His "reality" is far, far, far, far away from everyone else's.
what shit logic is this....
Bl4ckSunsh1n3
Member
Wow, late to the party here. OR will never be in my future plans. I planned on getting PSVR to start and then getting VR on PC later one. Vive it is.
People claiming they haven't seen any evidence of Trump being a white supremacist are either so ignorant on the subject that I am not sure any defense they mount is in anyway relevant,
or they are being massively disingenuous about the subject and again, irrelevant in their outrage.
or they are being massively disingenuous about the subject and again, irrelevant in their outrage.
Either youre wilfully ignorant of trump or you agree with him and don't think what he says is racist. http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_56e0729fe4b065e2e3d47e82
If that isn't enough I have plenty more from him and the people he put on his campaign who, one at least, doesn't even believe blacks went segregation and being hanged way back when.
hobblygobbly
Member
Really? Just in the last two days he proposed something that is typical white supremacist thinking.
Trump proposed nationwide stop-and-frisk to address violence in the black community. That is racial profiling, imposing rule over a non-white group, targeting black people.
Next thing you're going to tell me is that South Africa's apartheid policies were not white supremacist, nor was the lack of civil rights in the U.S in the past.
His "beliefs" are the nonsense ramblings of a pack of A.D.D addled 14 year old boys from reddit and 4chan and besides publicly attaching your name to politics that are this divisive when you are the public face of a massive company is really really stupid and you know it.
Yes they are. You're separating a linked issue. The disgust is that by people raising the bar for minorities and giving them the opportunity afforded to what was a privileged set of people, those people see their privilege being removed as an attack on them rather than a help to others.
The alt right have on the whole a contempt for those who are not them. It is pure self interest at play here. A rational person will never respond to people wanting equality by "pushing back" using the vitriol of the alt right. Rational people have empathy and know that being shown the plight of others and asking to act not of pure self interest is not being told how to think.
Everyone is entitled to put their priorities first. The alt right however is characterised by the lack of an ability to value anyone else's.
Visualante2
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I'm honestly just amazed how well connected some Reddit moderators are.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Just because her opponents call her that doesn't mean it's what she is!!!
Primethius
Banned
It's hilarious. Dudes not even worth responding too anymore.
Stone Ocean
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I'll never understand how the concept of racism isn't a crime in the US. Something like a KKK rally around here would leave you with a few missing teeth at best.
Let me guess, you're white aren't you?
Theanine3D
Member
Believe it or not, it's possible to be homophobic and gay at the same time. It's called being self-hating. Milo's been on the record saying if it became medically possible to be converted to straight, he would do it.
OverBlood 3
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It's amazing the mental gymnastics some people go through.
"Ive got black accountants at Trump Castle and at Trump Plaza black guys counting my money! ODonnells book quoted Trump as saying. I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. Those are the kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else. . . . Besides that, Ive got to tell you something else. I think that the guy is lazy. And its probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is; I believe that. Its not anything they can control."
Not a white supremacist guys
Not a white supremacist guys
That tweet where she said black people are the real racists... I mean you guys might say that is a 9/10 on the racist scale but clearly its an 8.8/10 and frankly anything under 8.9/10 isnt "racist" racist, just "racist."
At this point I think Atomic Edge believes Trump can only be considered a white supremacist if he comes to the debate donning KKK attire with a burning cross in the background while yelling "I HATE OTHER RACES AND I HATE MINORITIES AND I THINK THEY'RE INFERIOR"
Admitedlly, that still might be a little bit too subtle for Atomic Edge.
Thanks for sharing that. Well put by Atwater.
The point is that in informal spaces people are allowed to say whatever they like, problematic or not.
And that by tolerating, but calling out, this problematic behaviour, we are lowing our culture's 'threshold' for tolerating it - and it will happen less. Look at how much better women are treated on a daily basis now than they were 200 years ago. This only happened because people consistently called out unfair/biased behaviour towards them for a long time. We never made it illegal, we just called it out. (In professional contexts then the law can/does come into it.)
This Luckey thing is delicious because he is an important figure in a formal context and has allowed an informal context to spill over into the formal. I have experienced this myself, on a tiny scale, and it is horrific.
(I'm arbitrarily using the words informal/formal here to indicate public/private, business/personal, etc.)
Love the sinner, hate the sin.
Atomic Edge
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That's pretty crazy. Not something I'd ever considered before.
OverBlood 3
Banned
You can't be racist if you eat Taco bowls.
Yeah, loving and accepting racists as a status quo has taken us here, shit needs to stop.
Stone Ocean
Member
That's some 18th century level logic lmao
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
TIL that my parents are white supremacists. You think you know somebody.
It's only a sin if the sinner commits it. If they keep comitting the sin then at one point you can't separate the two.
Being a pacifist or an enabler to bigotry and hate isn't cute. No matter how much zen you try sprinkle on these racists bigots.
baddvision
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wow disgusting human garbage
Already Torn
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I'm gonna use that "well then please be tolerant of my intolerance towards intolerant people" line next time someone uses that junk line lol. Good stuff
CyberPunked
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Gemüsepizza;217831898 said:
This is good. People need to know.
A perfect example for that thread made a week ago. Whats that phenomena when someone starts talking about a subject you start to notice the subject more?
By buying oculus rift you are giving more money to palmer who can use said money to oursue his disgusting goals yet at the same time thr dude is already rich as is and can do damage just fine. Hed probably wouldnt even need the income he gets from oculus anymore to still do damage.
I would never buy an oculus as is anyways but thats hardly saying much when the competition is vive and psvr but itd be interesting to see how many people would stick to their guns in a world without them or if this news came out 2 years ago. Btw im not saying buying an oculus right now is wrong, i genuinely dont know and i kinda feel bad about my ignorance in this situation.
By buying oculus rift you are giving more money to palmer who can use said money to oursue his disgusting goals yet at the same time thr dude is already rich as is and can do damage just fine. Hed probably wouldnt even need the income he gets from oculus anymore to still do damage.
I would never buy an oculus as is anyways but thats hardly saying much when the competition is vive and psvr but itd be interesting to see how many people would stick to their guns in a world without them or if this news came out 2 years ago. Btw im not saying buying an oculus right now is wrong, i genuinely dont know and i kinda feel bad about my ignorance in this situation.
He is sarcastically saying his.parents are voting for trump and implying those looking down on his parents are being hyperbolic. I think.
Disappointing. When i saw the headlines I thought nice to see a conservative high up in silicon valley which has turned into a sea of homogeneous extreme social liberals. But instead we get this alt-right/meme garbage with the undercurrent of racism. Just a manchild with a lot of money. This hateful year really needs to end.
Primethius
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I'm not sure that is openly racist. Trump would seem like a bit of a dick though.
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