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Oculus' Palmer Luckey funds white-supremacist/misogynistic/anti-lgbt harassment group

He was always pretty famous. As a super rich guy with his name on buildings and casinos in the 80s and 90s. Then as a reality tv host in the 2000s and then as a full on racist asshole with the birther movement. 4 years ago Trump's most notable stance was that Obama was a muslim foreigner, that illegally accepted the POTUS office.

I mean Palmer Luckey -_-
 
I haven't been following either candidate closely anymore because I'm disgusted with both of them. I'm disgusted with the political game our system has created.

Your interpretation of that slogan seems negatively interpreted because you disagree with Trump's policies.

Interpreted that way because of Trump's policies. You don't notice a pattern with the things he is proposing?
 

E-Cat

Member
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Why are you being rude?

I mean, I just skimmed through them. I just saw typical #vote4trump shlock.
The writing's on the wall and it's all over this thread. Maybe someone with more patience will point it out to you?

Do a search for 'Yiannopoulos' inside this thread, for one.
 
I understand that view, but just because I don't personally subscribe to it, I don't feel like it gives anyone license to call me ignorant, racist, etc.
Well it does. A spade is being called a spade.

It's weird how some of you get so much more offended at him being called a racist than being offended by him doing shit that propogates racism
 

Makai

Member
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He also said he willingly supports the group.
Nobody seems to have tied him to that username
 
All I'm saying is that a supporter of Trump may be racists, but being a supporter of Trump does not automatically make you a racists.
No, but it makes you harmfully ignorant at best. Supporting a racist man means you either are compliant with his views or don't give a shit, both equally bad, and before you retort saying "but what if you're not compliant with them" then why the fuck would you willingly support him?
 
I'm not seeing the difference between being anti-nonwhite (racist) and being pro-white above everyone else (white supremecist) myself.

(edit) sanity edit.

"White supremacy" is like a very specific ideology. I'm not familiar with the_donald or 8chan or even that nimble america thing, and to which degree they do or do not spread "white supremacy", but all I'm saying is to be careful with what you call people.

Also, racism doesn't necessarily mean that you're anti non-white, while white-supremacy means exactly that. Racism can be typified by ignorance or prejudice, while white-supremacy is like "those people are literally sub-human, and don't deserve to live". Not every racist thinks the latter. Do you understand the distinction?

Regardless, this is getting into nitpicking territory. It's just that, I don't know... He's still a person, and like personally like to give the benefit of the doubt to whatever degree I'm able. And in this case, I think he's an idiot with shit opinions and a bad personality, but maybe not entirely a white supremacist.

On principal I can agree with you but for something like this fuck that!

We have an influential rich seemingly racist person trying to help elect another rich influential extremely racist person to the most powerful position in the word where he will help not only shape policy and law but also public opinion, validating his horrific views and causing untold harm to millions of specific groups of people for generations to come.

But we need to worry about what kind of racist label we use for him?

How about we instead focus on what a cunt palmer and trump and every other person like them are and prevent them discriminating people based on racist, ignorant beliefs first.

Yeah, ok, I can definitely agree with the latter.
 
I just want to comment on people saying "meh, he supports some shitty political candidate, that doesn't mean he's a white supremacist".

Look, he co founded this together with moderators and creators of reddit's /r/the_donald - just go there and read some high voted posts and the comments that those guys approve of. This thing is a meeting ground for white supremacists. Muslims are generally called "mudslimes", arabs are generally called "kebap", and while they don't openly use "nigger" for black people, they sure as hell don't like them and compare them fairly often to monkeys. They - of course - also hate jews.

This is the soil that spawned this project. The guy posts there. The goddamn piece of shit knows exactly who he's socializing with. There's no way he is "just some misguided dude liking Trump".

Are there posts from Luckey on r/the-donald?


That's the kind of info I'm looking for. If there are (please link), then it's clear night and day what he is.

Otherwise, I don't particularly like making folks guilty simply by association. Could it mean he's racists. Certainly. It just doesn't guarantee it.
 

Shai-Tan

Banned
He's a vocal supporter of Donald Trump. His girlfriends tweets are also pretty blatant.


What do you think "Make America Great Again" means?

the mere fact that he supports trump isn't proof of the insinuation and "Make America Great Again" is a phrase which could mean many different things. The progressive left likes to insinuate it's only a dog whistle for racism but I'm pretty sure to most supporters it just means doing something about economic stagnation in the last 20 years. sure there are some racists but there's no way that most right leaning peope who support Trump in this election are racist in the way that's being insinuated, even if they support a candidate who has made some statements that could be said to be racist

see this discussion for more on that:

http://bloggingheads.tv/videos/42339

http://bloggingheads.tv/videos/41978?in=42:51&out=55:23
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
I'm not going to be to argue politics of supporting Trumo as A) I don't support him and B) there are people of all races that are supporting him.

I don't completely get it either. I'm just saying that just because you support him you are not a racists. They obviously see things worth supporting him that they are willing to overlook th BS.



I don't think Nimble America = ISIS. If my reading is accurate, it sole purpose is to help elect Trump and is not directly putting out white supremacist crap. It's just the founders that have been associated with White Supremacist crap. Therefore supporting Nimble America means supporting Trump. Not necessarily white supremacist even if the white supremacist are want Trump to win for their own agenda. Again, I could be wrong and Nimble America is posting white supremacist crap, but that's not what I read.


Uhhhh...see comment above.
it dorsn't but you don't donate thousands of dollars to political groups you don't believe in at all. Imagine you yourself donate a grand of your money to political movement you don't agree with .
 

platocplx

Member
"I'm not racist, I'm just voting for the racist by simply overlooking the part where he's a racist. Totally not a deal-breaker."

And even if he wasnt the candidate anyone with half a brain reading the entire parties policies can see that they are awful. I mean they literally have stuff in there pushing to have people who are gay seek reprogramming. It is reprehensible shitlike that i dont understand how people support this crap.

When I vote I dont vote just for the person also what their entire party represents and the policies. You can read the policy there is nothing good coming from.

And its insane people will over look who creates stuff no matter how terrible they are and still keep them rich. There are many alternatives in tech and elsewhere to get what you want without feeling icky about the purchase.
 

Kurdel

Banned
Are there posts from Luckey on r/the-donald?


That's the kind of info I'm looking for. If there are (please link), then it's clear night and day what he is.

Otherwise, I don't particularly like making folks guilty simply by association. Could it mean he's racists. Certainly. It just doesn't guarantee it.

If he did, I am sure he already went and erased them all.
 
can you guys interpret what your idea of white suptemecists are? I'm genuinely confused. I thought it was white people believing they are of the superior race and therefore should control society.

That's not what I have gathered from reading those tweets/trump supporting?

That's a whole other discussion and there's no shortage of information out there, but consider that Trump is where he is now because he led a racist conspiracy theory for nearly a decade in an attempt to 'other' Obama, and his first appearance in the public eye was because he was being sued for discriminating against black people.
 
B) there are people of all races that are supporting him.

Idiocy is not bound by race or gender. There are women who believe that no woman should hold power, just like there are minorities that believe slavery was the best thing that ever happened. Just because there are people of all groups supporting him, does not make anything he does right.
 

AmuroRX

Banned
The people here personally attacking those who still want to buy an occulus are the worst...im sorry, but its true. You guys obviously spend your whole day yelling at peiple wherever you go right? The world is filled with people dont believe or do what you want. Have some modicum of empathy and respect for your fellow man.

Look sure it would be great if all companies executive leadership wasnt made up of shitbags but thats not the world we live in.

If you want to be a conscientious consumer go head...i think thats admirable, but at least dont attack people for not following your lead.
 

guggnichso

Banned
Are there posts from Luckey on r/the-donald?


That's the kind of info I'm looking for. If there are (please link), then it's clear night and day what he is.

Otherwise, I don't particularly like making folks guilty simply by association. Could it mean he's racists. Certainly. It just doesn't guarantee it.

The screenshot and link is plastered all over this thread, also on the article in the OP.
 

Alucrid

Banned
Are there posts from Luckey on r/the-donald?


That's the kind of info I'm looking for. If there are (please link), then it's clear night and day what he is.

Otherwise, I don't particularly like making folks guilty simply by association. Could it mean he's racists. Certainly. It just doesn't guarantee it.

guilt by association? how about guilt by bankrolling their efforts?

The people here personally attacking those who still want to buy an occulus are the worst...im sorry, but its true. You guys obviously spend your whole day yelling at peiple wherever you go right? The world is filled with people dont believe or do what you want. Have some modicum of empathy and respect for your fellow man.

Look sure it would be great if all companies executive leadership wasnt made up of shitbags but thats not the world we live in.

If you want to be a conscientious consumer go head...i think thats admirable, but at least dont attack people for not following your lead.

who's shitting on people still buying a rift? people are being taken to task for either disingenuous arguments about why this doesn't matter, about how they don't want these politics in their gaming or about why providing funds for spin offs of sites engorged with white supremacist rhetoric might not make luckey himself all that racist or supportive of white supremacy.
 

Makonero

Member
The people here personally attacking those who still want to buy an occulus are the worst...im sorry, but its true. You guys obviously spend your whole day yelling at peiple wherever you go right? The world is filled with people dont believe or do what you want. Have some modicum of empathy and respect for your fellow man.

Look sure it would be great if all companies executive leadership wasnt made up of shitbags but thats not the world we live in.

If you want to be a conscientious consumer go head...i think thats admirable, but at least dont attack people for not following your lead.

I don't see anyone attacking Oculus consumers. But they should know what their dollars and support are going to.
 
The people here personally attacking those who still want to buy an occulus are the worst...im sorry, but its true. You guys obviously spend your whole day yelling at peiple wherever you go right? The world is filled with people dont believe or do what you want. Have some modicum of empathy and respect for your fellow man.

Look sure it would be great if all companies executive leadership wasnt made up of shitbags but thats not the world we live in.

If you want to be a conscientious consumer go head...i think thats admirable, but at least dont attack people for not following your lead.

*rolls eyes*
I guess videogame hardware is more important to you than not supporting a racist idiot funding racism. *thumbs up* No one is attacking you, anyway. They're criticizing Palmer Luckey.
 
Yes, because his policies are in favor of white supremacy. Those are the only concrete policies he has.

Interpreted that way because of Trump's policies. You don't notice a pattern with the things he is proposing?

I assumed Trump's border/immigrant policies were extreme forms of wanting to control illegal immigration and it's potential damage it might cause.

I don't agree with it, but I never assumed/interpreted it was white supremecy disguised as policy.

Like I said, I haven't followed everything that comes out of the pig's mouth, but I haven't seen him being flagrantly racist, such as being against legal immigration.

edit:
Sorry for asking in this thread I guess. Just seemed like a convenient place to gauge what people are thinking. I'll do my research outside of this thread.
 

Jebusman

Banned
The people here personally attacking those who still want to buy an occulus are the worst...im sorry, but its true. You guys obviously spend your whole day yelling at peiple wherever you go right? The world is filled with people dont believe or do what you want. Have some modicum of empathy and respect for your fellow man.

Look sure it would be great if all companies executive leadership wasnt made up of shitbags but thats not the world we live in.

If you want to be a conscientious consumer go head...i think thats admirable, but at least dont attack people for not following your lead.

I challenge you, right here right now, to find more than a single poster personally attacking people for still wanting to buy an Oculus.

You're going to find a lot of posters saying they won't personally ever buy an Oculus again, but no outright attacks on another poster about their choice to get one.
 

Par Score

Member
Are there posts from Luckey on r/the-donald?


That's the kind of info I'm looking for. If there are (please link), then it's clear night and day what he is.

Otherwise, I don't particularly like making folks guilty simply by association. Could it mean he's racists. Certainly. It just doesn't guarantee it.

Seriously?

Luckey giving money to fund white supremacist organisations, while engaging with and otherwise vocally supporting racists, isn't enough?

Does he have to burn a cross? Shout "Nigger" in a crowded room? Call Obama a "Kenyan Muslim" on Reddit?

The dude is splashing cash on this stuff, is paying other people to say racist/sexist stuff really any better than saying it yourself? Is that honestly a meaningful distinction for you?
 

MUnited83

For you.
The people here personally attacking those who still want to buy an occulus are the worst...im sorry, but its true. You guys obviously spend your whole day yelling at peiple wherever you go right? The world is filled with people dont believe or do what you want. Have some modicum of empathy and respect for your fellow man.

Look sure it would be great if all companies executive leadership wasnt made up of shitbags but thats not the world we live in.

If you want to be a conscientious consumer go head...i think thats admirable, but at least dont attack people for not following your lead.
Show me one person here that was actually personally attacked for wanting to buy a Oculus. I'll wait.
 

BruceCLea

Banned
I haven't been following either candidate closely anymore because I'm disgusted with both of them. I'm disgusted with the political game our system has created.

Your interpretation of that slogan seems negatively interpreted because you disagree with Trump's policies.



=(

Why are you being rude?

I mean, I just skimmed through them. I just saw typical #vote4trump shlock.


Because Trump is a white supremicist misogynist, racist bigot. And if you're helping/enabling him, then you tend to agree with his ideologies.
 

Oersted

Member
The people here personally attacking those who still want to buy an occulus are the worst...im sorry, but its true. You guys obviously spend your whole day yelling at peiple wherever you go right? The world is filled with people dont believe or do what you want. Have some modicum of empathy and respect for your fellow man.

Look sure it would be great if all companies executive leadership wasnt made up of shitbags but thats not the world we live in.

If you want to be a conscientious consumer go head...i think thats admirable, but at least dont attack people for not following your lead.

All these words to tell people that they are the problem and not white supremacists, because they yell at people.

Admirable.
 

Makonero

Member
I assumed Trump's border/immigrant policies were extreme forms of wanting to control illegal immigration and it's potential damage it might cause.

I don't agree with it, but I never assumed/interpreted it was white supremecy disguised as policy.

Like I said, I haven't followed everything that comes out of the pig's mouth, but I haven't seen him being flagrantly racist, such as being against legal immigration.

When someone says most Mexicans are rapists and murderers and seeks to keep an entire group of people out of the country based on their religious beliefs, you can no longer argue that he isn't racist or prejudicial. He's xenophobic, nationalistic, and uses fear as a club to get people's attention.

Do some research.
 
The people here personally attacking those who still want to buy an occulus are the worst...im sorry, but its true. You guys obviously spend your whole day yelling at peiple wherever you go right? The world is filled with people dont believe or do what you want. Have some modicum of empathy and respect for your fellow man.

Look sure it would be great if all companies executive leadership wasnt made up of shitbags but thats not the world we live in.

If you want to be a conscientious consumer go head...i think thats admirable, but at least dont attack people for not following your lead.

FOH with your bullshit strawman
 
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