I wanted to respond to this and say that this is awesome! I always like reading success stories this. It's why I like reading the OKC and Tinder Reddits on a weekly basis for Story Time.Hey guys, I didn't post in here often but I did seek advice a few times and I just wanted to say thanks to this thread and everyone who put an effort into making it exist and helping others like myself out. I got some good tips on dating in general and most importantly you guys gave me the courage to keep putting myself out there. It took years and years of effort, horrible dates, anxious nights, and disappointments.
But I finally met the love of my life last fall and couldn't be happier.
I hope everyone else finds the success and happiness that I did. Thanks again to anyone who helped me out
So beginner here on the online dating service/app scene. I've started with a bunch of the apps in the OT post. Is Match.com not worth it unless it's premium? I get notifications but it always brings me to the subscription page (of course). I wanted to know what others experienced and whether I should just focus on being selective on the free apps.
SonicXtreme said:pay for it, but it depends. have you really drug POF/tinder/bumble/OKC dirt dry?
are you ok with mostly more mature, really successful women? most are on there for marriage, not for fun. the sweet spot for the site is 26-50, college educated and a lot of them higher than that, lots more world travelers than women who want to go to a dive bar.
are you ok with messaging people with no idea of whether they pay or not (if they don't they can't reply and you'll never know if they do and just ignored it or if they don't pay) , as well as having tons of fake accounts on the site? (they smurf profiles, and when your subscription ends you will get tons of mystery likes from them, only to subscribe and not find them. this is one of the ways they get people to join the site; lots of those cuties are site made spam)
it's very anti consumer (the day my last subscription ended, a girl i was talking to offsite remarked that my old profile now was completely different, and was changed to one of these cheese profiles they populate the site with to spurn nonpayer's interest), but if you're ok with those things it's something to do. but i stress that you really should feel like you emptied the free sites
I wanted to respond to this and say that this is awesome! I always like reading success stories this. It's why I like reading the OKC and Tinder Reddits on a weekly basis for Story Time.
There was a discussion about Match several posts above. I should throw SonicXtreme's post on Match into the OP but here's his post again:
So I got matched up with a 36 year old who lives right across the bridge from me on Tinder. I hope it leads somewhere because I've had 0 luck on Tinder since returning to it this year. She liked the Hey girl GIF so that's a good start.
Thanks. I was going through in post order, never got to there until after the post.
Welp I've been sort of desperate to end my dry spell that I was willing to lower my height standards temporarily (in my message me section I mention that girls should be at least 5'7'').
Congrats, Kyle.
Wow! So two successful kisses back to back and back to back second dates secured. Keep that hot streak going. For future reference, when a woman wants to make out, generally the tell-tale sign to look for is she looks down at your lips, makes eye contact, and smiles a lot.All right. Date summaries:
Date #2:
Started out a little bit awkward. This was the woman I was excited about, so I was really feeling some intense anxiety at the beginning of this date. The plan was to meet at a restaurant and then go to a poetry slam. At the restaurant, conversation was initially a little bit stilted, and that combined with her self-proclaimed resting bitch face made me think the date was a bust fairly early on. However, we both loosened up after about 30 minutes or so, and things were surprisingly smooth from there. She actually talked quite a bit, which was nice since I'm not always keen on being the one to carry the conversation. After two hours at the restaurant, we decided to bail on the poetry slam idea and hit up an ice cream shop instead, where we ended up talking for two more hours before heading back to the parking lot where we both parked. I totally froze up at the end when I should have gone for a kiss. I was walking away as she was about to open her car, but I guess I found some latent courage and managed to force myself to turn around and firmly say, "Wait." The courage ended there, though, as I started stammering after that. Luckily, she picked up on what I was aiming for, and she giggled at my awkwardness as she walked up and gave me a short kiss.
We're going on a second date tomorrow night. I won't fumble on the kiss again.
Date #3
I wasn't sure how this date would go. I'd been feeling such a high over the previous date that I really hadn't even given this one much thought. Part of me was actually hoping she'd just stand me up and save me the time and money so I could just focus on Woman #2. We met at a cafe, had lunch, and got to know each other for roughly two hours. Conversation didn't flow super organically, but I think that's just because we're both pretty awkward and anxious. She nervously tore at her straw wrapper for the entirety of the date. That said, she was really sweet and adorable, and I enjoyed talking with her. I wasn't feeling terribly confident as we left our table since there were a few short awkward silences, but she actually ended up telling me that she hoped we could go on another date sometime (she also invited me to her sorority's formal event? which is like a month out? that was a little weird, but I'll roll with it for now). That was a genuine surprise. I guess I started feeling myself as I walked her to her car, because I managed to turn what was going to just be a hug and a kiss on the cheek into a full-blown kiss with minimal awkwardness. And then I did it again because it felt good. She smiled, and we parted ways. Probably seeing her again this Thursday.
I'm curious; not into short women?
In a nutshell, the economist in that episode recommended doing 15 minute Skype meetings with a potential match to save time meeting up face to face if there's no chemistry. He didn't expect anyone to take his advice seriously.
The economist obviously doesn't want anybody to fuck. The percentage of people fucking without any sort of chemistry is probably in the upper 90%.
I wonder what the ratio is between hookups based purely on two people being within the vicinity of each other "well, we're both here..." vs dates where nothing happens because one or both parties regret meeting up.
Re-signed up for Tinder when at PAX - had more fun doing that than the actual con haha. I even sold my Saturday pass while I was there. The amount of attractive and intelligent women in the area is insane compared to New York. I thought initially it was due to the con but none of the women I matched with were attending; it was due to the proximity of all the Ivy Leagues.
First night I was there I bought a ton of groceries / booze that I ended up not eating or drinking. So I started giving "parting" gifts to my Tinder dates in the form of a bottle of 2-buck-chuck wine. My only regret is not including a questionnaire card.
Skype dates would make so much more sense economically. My longest relationship was with a girl I met on OkCupid and wanted to Skype a few times before meeting. I definitely built a better rapport with her than any other date I had prior to meeting. I had even disabled my profile a month before meeting because I was convinced she was amazing. Only downside is that I was a bit cat fished in the sense that when we finally met she looked like she had gained 20lbs. By that time I was so into her it didn't matter but I could definitely see someone else feeling betrayed by that.
I can see why you're overthinking it since you think she's not interested. If anything, some girls like to talk via phone so don't stress it and leave it be for a while.I've really got to stop overthinking texts at times.
A girl I'm dating at the moment gave me a short response to something and my mind is in overdrive, despite the fact we're meeting again on Tuesday...
She did say she barely ever texts, but for whatever reason I'm overthinking this.
Nice! Glad you're getting play. Hopefully you get some home runs in.Drunk Kyle reporting in. I was smooth as fuck tonight on the second date. We in there, boyz
Very true.I can see why you're overthinking it since you think she's not interested. If anything, some girls like to talk via phone so don't stress it and leave it be for a while.
Is it funny if I thought of the game for a second? Try asking in the Dating-Age thread if anything.Anyone around the GTA know any good places for a date?
Did you set up a date with the latter girl? If not, then please do so ASAP. This thread's subtitle might not be just ask her out already, but the same the logic applies here. The reason she reason she went silent is because she didn't want to talk any more. I do that all the time these days.Around how often do you message these people after the initial conversations? I've been talking with 2 women who I had pretty good conversations with that I haven't met up with yet. One I have a date with on Monday, the other I definitely am interested in because our conversation the night prior was super interesting and cool. We messaged each other til around 2am, then nothing after a few texts today.
I'm not too strung out about it, just curious based on prior experiences here. I used to be pretty anxious about this shit but I figure like any other person, I'll message em when I have something to say. I'm not a "hey what's up?" kinda guy. No one has anything to say to that, haha.
Seriously, what is up with some people?
Some girl just blocked me because I didn't respond straight away on WhatsApp.
We were messaging quite a bit last night, I messaged to ask what she was up to tonight, she responded and then she blocked me when I didn't respond straight away.
I just find it bizarre.
Their profile just goes blank and any messages sent don't send through to them.how do you know if you got blocked?
I'm not at all upset, I just find it bizarre.Maybe she went to her bf. Maybe she found someone else. Maybe she found you boring. Maybe she decided it was a mistake to keep talking with you. Whatever. Yeah, it's shitty, but better to be blocked than go silent.
Tinder best quality is also it's worse. There's just a lot to choose.
I'm not at all upset, I just find it bizarre.
True, I guess I find it strange since I've never been one to block someone if I lose interest.I chat guys up and change my mind all the time, especially on Tinder. I feel bad about it but sometimes you just lose interest / cold feet.
It's over.She's away this weekend, so I'll just drop her a message on Sunday/Monday to confirm Tuesday is still on.
I'm petty bummed admittedly, but truth be told I didn't see things lasting long with her anyway.Well, things are over with the girl I was meant to meet up with on Tuesday.
I asked if it was still on and she said things have gotten more serious with another guy she was seeing, so that's that.
Onto the next I guess...
I made mine my first name since I didn't know that everyone uses random usernames. I don't know if it matters, but it seems to help people by striking up the first message?Kind of want to change my OKC name to something that includes my first name (just to dodge that problem and because I've finally come up with a clever name that incorporates my name). I know i'll have to pay... Still don't want to do it while i'm midway through a conversation.
Why not?True, I guess I find it strange since I've never been one to block someone if I lose interest.
It's over.
As I posted in the Dating-Age thread:
I'm petty bummed admittedly, but truth be told I didn't see things lasting long with her anyway.
Date is going well. Really good convo. Bar is nice. She went to the bathroom so have a break. I found out that she's an artist on the side. Looks like her pics too.
It went really well. I only spent a total of 8 bucks since I only bought a beer, spent money on tip, and took the bus back across the bridge. There was some light arm touching from both sides which was good. She had to get to the supermarket and went to go get her car so we agreed to call it a night and hugged it out. I definitely will see her again since she's really smart and interesting. The whole age gap doesn't bother me and 7 years older than me. She has a nice body on top of all that.Nice! Hope things keep going smoothly!
Take some new pics doing stuff or take up some new hobbies? No need to be so harsh on yourself man.got no fucking clue what to put on my Tinder profile
I know photos are the focus, I've got a couple of okay ones and that's not going to improve any time soon. But I figure I shouldn't leave the 'about me' blank.
I don't like selling myself though. I could be honest, but I don't know how to sell 'mostly plays videogames, watches anime and browses the internet' in a way that'll get me close to attractive women.
Any ideas?
Take some new pics doing stuff or take up some new hobbies? No need to be so harsh on yourself man.
Sure, I could mention how I love volunteering at events/cons, write comic reviews and other articles for a website, sketch people in public, that I don't go out much, or any other thing about myself but girls aren't interested so I omit that stuff. Let them discover it on the date. Would you date a girl who laid out a laundry list of stuff so that she doesn't mislead people?
Why I didn't see things working out?Why not?
Agree with both points for both posters. With the first point for Moose Biscuits, if you leave the profile blank, then it'll just give the impression that you're a bot. With dates that I've had from Tinder, at some point or another I've either had girls ask about how to pronounce my name online or in person. This is why it's advisable to put a joke, a reference to one of your pictures, or an ice breaker to invite women to engage with you. Basically, something to help you stand out from your average Joe in your area.No don't leave it blank, but don't put your life story on there either. Put a joke, reference one of your pictures, or just have something to kickstart a conversation ("pizza or ice cream?").
EDIT: for the post above, if she can't/won't meet up soon, it's going to fizzle out. Leave the ball in her court ("Shall I pencil you in for Easter weekend 2019 then?") and start talking to other people.
Ask again next week. It's too much to generalize a thought like that.I've been messaging a girl and I asked her out earlier, but she can't meet up this week or next.
Would it be wise to keep the conversation going and ask her out again in a weeks time, or try and arrange a date now?
I'm asking since this is usually when things start to fizzle out...
Why I didn't see things working out?
Just the general vibe I got from her I guess and admittedly I don't think I'm ready for too much commitment at the moment.
I've been messaging a girl and I asked her out earlier, but she can't meet up this week or next.
Would it be wise to keep the conversation going and ask her out again in a weeks time, or try and arrange a date now?
I'm asking since this is usually when things start to fizzle out...
Why I didn't see things working out?
Just the general vibe I got from her I guess and admittedly I don't think I'm ready for too much commitment at the moment.
A quick update on last night's date: She didn't think that we were a match so it's on to the next one. It's odd because I thought it went solid but in maybe in the end she was after someone more aggressive.
I think I keep falling for the same exact mistakes since I like to talk about myself a lot. I don't know how to fix this since I wish I could pinpoint exactly where I shoot myself in the foot.
I feel like people's expectations are set to high so they think that I'm something that I'm not (it's funny that it's Moose Biscuit's situation more or less except in person). I suppose job insecurity has something to do with it since I keep over explaining what I do. Maybe my brother is right; I think I need to date women that are somewhat similar to me.
It always depends of the vibes you gave her and she gives you.
But it's true that expectations from online dating compared to real life is crazy.