rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Shader compilation is and almost all if not all are patched. Traversal stuttering is universal.
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RickMasters
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MatrixReloaded101
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Fair enough
I was in the market a couple years ago for a PC and I also saw a lot of people mention AMD GPUs because they offer a better price but some people don't know their GPUs don't have some features which is a turn off for me because I want all the features, its not about being beholden to one company but getting all the features you might want now or in the future.
Just sharing some tips for people who aren't aware because I wasn't at one point.
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PeteBull
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Welcome back to the family, man, good choice going for 5070ti with its 16gigs of vram, cpu wise i would suggest 7800x3d if u cant afford/got no budget for 9800x3d(their price is marked up vs launch/msrps big time still, coz its such a good cpu).
If u get 7800x3d u are sure to have stronger cpu from ps6 that will launch in holidays 2028, so u know u will be safe whole next gen cpu wise.
If u get 7800x3d u are sure to have stronger cpu from ps6 that will launch in holidays 2028, so u know u will be safe whole next gen cpu wise.
Topher
Identifies as young
Agreed. I've avoided AMD, but primarily due to the poor quality of FSR which I felt was held back by the lack of dedicated ML components. AMD finally addressed that. Still need more information and it is concerning that AMD is so incredibly reluctant about that. AMD definitely is the one with the most to prove. I have no qualms going back to Nvidia if AMD still can't deliver.
Fess
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No but he’s unhinged here like he attempts to get banned.First James Sawyer Ford comments?
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For motherboards I’ve gone with ASUS for a long time but went with an MSI mb on the last build. No issues at all so far and no coil whine.
And for 4 generations I’ve gone with MSI on graphics cards, Suprim X on 4090, 4080S, 3070ti and Lightning Z back on 1080ti. Couldn’t be more satisfied, zero issues. Only heard good things about the Gaming X line as well.
Bernardougf
Member
If the 7800x3d can proof me trough next gen I might think about the extra costs. Thanks for the advice.
Bernardougf
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About 1.500-2000$
Fess
Member
Go here and filter for $1500-2000 to get an idea of what you can get with all parts included:
I went with a 4080S and 7800x3D for my couch PC, runs everything I’ve tried at 60 except Indiana Jones with path tracing. A quick build in pcpartpicker put that around $2200 minus screen.
But as said, wait for 50-series reviews.
Randall365
Member
60 fps does not mean much in itself - what resolution are you aiming to play at?
The 5070ti is probably going to be okay as a 1080p or 1440p card at a push, with decent settings, but if you want 4k, you may need to do a bit better. Perhaps not at this precise moment in time, but I am guessing you do not want to upgrade for a couple of years at least.
The 5070ti is probably going to be okay as a 1080p or 1440p card at a push, with decent settings, but if you want 4k, you may need to do a bit better. Perhaps not at this precise moment in time, but I am guessing you do not want to upgrade for a couple of years at least.
Bernardougf
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Well as I said I play on consoles in perfomance mode ... so the resolutions are pretty bad ... I dont care about native 4k thats for sure, think at this PC as
a better console that can run more games at a stable 60 fps.... Dont care about maxing out everything..
Im much more sensible to less framerate than less resolution/effects...
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Topher
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Are you talking native 4k? 5070 Ti is more than enough for 4K with DLSS at quality to reach 60+fps.
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Topher
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Nah.....it isn't. Some devs are just having a harder time with the new tech than others.
YeulEmeralda
Linux User
I don't know man for the price it's pretty good. You ain't building a PC for €600 in the Netherlands.
Not everyone has a 3k budget.
hinch7
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Without going into a console vs PC debate. When RDNA 4 releases the value proposition of owning a more value orientated gaming machine blurs a little. Assuming 9070 can be had for $400 or less. You could probably get something in and around a PS5 Pro - maybe 100 bucks more. Except you'd end up with a fully functioning PC; instead of just an entertainment device with limited use.
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Topher
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True, price is less of a concern with newer, cheaper PC components. Even then, however, consoles and PCs are not necessarily interchangeable since consoles are more conducive in living room environments.
Randall365
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In that case, that card will be ideal for you or even a 5070.
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DenchDeckard
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I would say the best thing about a PC is, you buy it or upgrade it and 100% of your library see's an upgrade. No patches required. No lazy devs making shit patches. Just choose the settings that work for your personal experience and go have fun.
So, yes OP I would say go for it!
If you can stretch to a 7800X3D go for that and a 5070 Ti would be awesome for years to come. Well into next gen!
So, yes OP I would say go for it!
If you can stretch to a 7800X3D go for that and a 5070 Ti would be awesome for years to come. Well into next gen!
GymWolf
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gooner4life_uk
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a 5070Ti will play everything available now at max settings with RT using DLSS at 60fps at 1440p the odd edge case where the game is poorly optimised like BMW will require Frame Gen, but get at least a 7800x3D
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Just to add
Bernardougf
If you can stretch to a 7800X3D and a 5070 Ti. Forget 60 FPS. With DLSS and turning off Raytracing you will be surprised at how many games run at 120 FPS or close to it with G Sync on your OLED!
It's glorious!
Bernardougf
If you can stretch to a 7800X3D and a 5070 Ti. Forget 60 FPS. With DLSS and turning off Raytracing you will be surprised at how many games run at 120 FPS or close to it with G Sync on your OLED!It's glorious!
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Also, On PCs you can eliminate or reduce traversal stutters by investing in a really powerful CPU.
Thebonehead
Gold Member
Yeah because stutter doesn't exist on console
It's a self-deprecating joke my man. It's not been too bad with the latest releases.
I mainline a 4090, soon to be 5090
Nickolaidas
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Welcome back to the winning team.
GymWolf
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I heard that a powerfull pc can solve some of the stutters because it hasn't been that bad at all for me.
Thebonehead
Gold Member
Jedi Survivor / Dead Space remake were the last that annoyed me. Current build is 12900k / 48GB ram / 4090 / 10TB
Which reminds me. My new build will have 96GB ram so may create a ram disk and mount Dead Space remake in it and see if the traversal stutters are still there.
I did a video showing the loading hitches and monitored the SSD as part of the metrics ( You could see it spike with each hitch along with one core)
Could be uncompressing the data on a single thread in that instance.
New build is 9800x3d ( Will grab a 9950x3d in March )
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Refresh my memory again, but didnt you say that you had no stuttering in SH2? It was really bad for me until they patched it. or was that black myth?
That was the first time other than Dead Space where I had issues with traversal stutter. I ran callisto without stutters (played a year after launch though) and even Jedi Survivor only stuttered in koboh. No traversal stutters anywhere else for me.
Going to upgrade to a 7800x3d soon because i feel like my 11700k is becoming dated, especially when it comes to Path traced games since they have hitches and stutters that are definitely not traversal stutters. but im happy that my 11700k let me run starfield, space marine, and other CPU heavy games with no issues.
Even Elden Ring didnt have many stutters and i heard a lot of complaining about that. must have been my CPU.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
lol how would you even do that?
That reminds me. Upgrading from 16 to 32 GB in hogwarts really took care of the stutters in hogsmead and hogwarts. I totally forgot about that game's issues because upgrading to 32GB completely fixed my issues.
Thebonehead
Gold Member
Mount ramDisk onto system - Allocate size of DS Install plus say 10% - Create a Steam Folder in the Ram disk mount and copy the install to RAM.
Just for curiosites sake really
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GymWolf
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I had very minor stutter in sh2r yes, and very little in wukong (but a slightly bit more than sh2).
Some stutter with ds remake aswell but not crazy or anything, always super playable.
Elden ring was the some, not much problems compared to most people.
Ironically enough, some of the worst stutter i had was with callisto on ps5 even after 3 patches, not sure if they ever fixed that piece of shit.
I guess like everything else in pc gaming, stutter is also random and subjective.
You would never guess what was the most broken game i ever played on pc if you had 100 tries...
If there is one thing that my pc seems to be very weak\unluck with, is pop-in\texture loading, i feel like almost every game suffer from this shit and sometimes is so annoying that i thought my pc had some problem, but it's probably just bad in most games.
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hinch7
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Yeah thats why I find the comparisons a bit silly. They're totally different devices built for different purporses. I was just talking straight up value.
If a console is approaching costs of a mid range gaming PC with individually sourced DIY components not months after release, then there's something up with that.
Fess
Member
The truth. Are you satisfied with the upgrade so far?
Thinking back I should’ve skipped it until there is a solid reason to have it. The biggest upgrade I’ve felt so far is not having coil whine.
bad guy
as bad as Danny Zuko in gym knickers
PC gaming is more than high performance. There are loads of brilliant PC exclusives that dont need a beefy system, and you probably missed alot over the years. So maybe you can find a drasticly cheaper older 3-5year used PC somewhere. Or upgrade a cheap used $50 office PC with a $200 RX6600 +$50 SSD or sth like that.
Just wanted to put this option up there too since price is an issue.
Just wanted to put this option up there too since price is an issue.
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DownLikeBCPowder
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Good a place as any -
What's the best value per dollar I can get on, say, some used GPU in the 2-300 USD range? I'm using a GTX 1080ti right now. Using i7 11700k 3.6 CPU, 32 GB Ram.
What's the best value per dollar I can get on, say, some used GPU in the 2-300 USD range? I'm using a GTX 1080ti right now. Using i7 11700k 3.6 CPU, 32 GB Ram.
Amd 9800x3d with a fat cooler
A fat Rtx 5070 ti
128gb ram
2tb ssd
1000w psu
Atx /full atx Maximus or similar msi motherboard
Any case you want
Any mouse and keyboard you want
Any 27" monitor you want for your disk "believe me, you want this cause TV doesn't tell the whole story about pcs".
A fat Rtx 5070 ti
128gb ram
2tb ssd
1000w psu
Atx /full atx Maximus or similar msi motherboard
Any case you want
Any mouse and keyboard you want
Any 27" monitor you want for your disk "believe me, you want this cause TV doesn't tell the whole story about pcs".
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samuelgregory
Neo Member
The core of my personal PC is 7700k/1080ti and it plays BFV at 100fps all Ultra at 3440x1440 Ultrawide no problem.
I bought my brother a PC so he could play with me and again it's 7700k/1080ti but even at 2560x1440 he's only seeing 53fps.
I must be missing something here?!
Latest GPU driver
HWMon shows the CPU is running at the right frequency
Nvidia control panel is set to prefer max performance
GPU is reaching about 70°C while gaming but only seems to be hitting 60% usage?!
Tried both DX11 & DX12 in game
I can't see any frame limiters or v-sync on or anything and windows display settings is set to 75Hz to match his monitor.
I'll get him to download 3dMark to see if that gives any insight.
Any ideas?
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Bojji
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I don't know where I have seen anything about COD in your post...
Performance regression isn't normal of course. 3D mark test is a good idea.
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Topher
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Absolutely satisfied. The improvements in the games I've played so far, primarily Space Marine 2 and Dragon's Dogma 2, are significant. I'll be starting up Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth soon, a gamer I had written off playing on PS5 because of how blurry Rebirth was. Now a lot of games are on the table for PlayStation that were not before.