quickwhips
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Pdp isn’t who we should be concerned with it’s those Ryan toy reviews. /s.
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PewDiePie in Hot Water Again After Recommending a Known Hate Group's YouTube Channel.
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DreamsiclesPlz
Member
Man, why can't people just leave this guy alone? Everyone makes mistakes, it doesn't seem intentional. Move the fuck on. 
Fuz
Banned
Haven't read/seen the videos about the controversy yet, but I bet it's much ado about nothing, like the other Pew controversies. They really, REALLY want to fuck him up, dunno why.
And I'm not a fan of him.
Edit: Ok, seen a few minutes of it, it's the usual bullshit the alt-left spews about him. Not sure why they try character assassination so much with him.
And I'm not a fan of him.
Edit: Ok, seen a few minutes of it, it's the usual bullshit the alt-left spews about him. Not sure why they try character assassination so much with him.
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Silent Duck
Member
Nazis... nazis everywhere....
Sqorin Hammerfarf
Banned
This is why I don’t play college campuses anymore.
I suppose what I don't get is why exactly they are trying to paint him as "a hero to Nazis" or "spreading Nazi propaganda"? Or just outright trying to say he is a Nazi?
Is it really the case that they are looking to have him kicked off Youtube? Why though?
They aren't just looking for an apology or anything but rather they are straight up pushing the idea that PDP is a legitimate far-right figurehead that could potentially turn millions onto far-right ideas.
I mean, if we follow some kind of logic here, what happens if these "attacks" would be successful?
The public is convinced that PDP is a "Nazi".
Public opinion forced Youtube to boot him because of this.
So, PDP gets his Youtube shut down. OK. What does that actually achieve long term?
I can't really think of any benefit.
Is it possible that people are SO butthurt that this guy makes millions from his "not a real job" that getting him shut down is the only way to soothe that raging jealousy?
Why are they doing this?
Is it really the case that they are looking to have him kicked off Youtube? Why though?
They aren't just looking for an apology or anything but rather they are straight up pushing the idea that PDP is a legitimate far-right figurehead that could potentially turn millions onto far-right ideas.
I mean, if we follow some kind of logic here, what happens if these "attacks" would be successful?
The public is convinced that PDP is a "Nazi".
Public opinion forced Youtube to boot him because of this.
So, PDP gets his Youtube shut down. OK. What does that actually achieve long term?
I can't really think of any benefit.
Is it possible that people are SO butthurt that this guy makes millions from his "not a real job" that getting him shut down is the only way to soothe that raging jealousy?
Why are they doing this?
llien
Member
It takes so little to be a nazi these days.
Shut down, south-eastern part of my body, chuckle...
Not bowing to the almighty diversity zealots, hence dangerous?
With 76 million subscribers / 20 billion views he can start his own dewtube, exclusively for himself, or as a platform, or simply jump to another platform and give it a major boost.
Shut down, south-eastern part of my body, chuckle...
WhiskeyDiver
Member
PewdiePie in hot water again, but his (probably) "Tens of millions of dollars" air conditioned boat is keeping him plenty safe and cool whilst he sips on Mai Tais and pleasures himself to PornHub prime on his 240 inch, 8k projection television while making another Youtube video when he feels like it or some shit I dunno whatever. This and more unimportant as all fuck news on this channel at 11pm or 11:18pm or whatever.
ignore me
llien
Member
Yay:
...in July 2018, Wired published an article, referring to PewDiePie's fan base as "toxic", stating that "it's not just that they've stuck with the Swedish gamer/alleged comedian as he peppered his videos with racial slurs, rape jokes, anti-Semitism, and homophobia for nearly a decade (though that's bad enough). It's also that they insist that PewDiePie somehow isn't being hateful at all."[163]
...in July 2018, Wired published an article, referring to PewDiePie's fan base as "toxic", stating that "it's not just that they've stuck with the Swedish gamer/alleged comedian as he peppered his videos with racial slurs, rape jokes, anti-Semitism, and homophobia for nearly a decade (though that's bad enough). It's also that they insist that PewDiePie somehow isn't being hateful at all."[163]
Sqorin Hammerfarf
Banned
Since time immemorial, in times of perceived trouble, we've sacrificed a goat. Famine, drought, plague? Kill a goat. We'd sort of place all our worries, frustrations, and anger upon this single animal, and in offering it up to whatever goat-loving god there was, released them and hoped for a better tomorrow. In many societies, it was the sacrifice of someone of high standing - but because people of high standing usually had the power to say no, what they would end up doing is take someone of low standing and elevate their standing temporarily. Queen for a day, goat for the slaughter.
We no longer sacrifice goats or people, and even though Jesus gave the ultimate sacrifice to save all future goats, the scapegoat is still very much a thing. It's human nature.
We are in times of perceived trouble. We're worried, frustrated, and angry and we don't know what to do about it. The only thing we can do is offer up someone of high standing in the hopes that society will in some way benefit from our sacrifice.
I mean, it won't. But I like to think that PDP is the village girl given the queen for a day treatment just so that we could sacrifice her to save our fields later... it's the only way his popularity makes sense to me.
We no longer sacrifice goats or people, and even though Jesus gave the ultimate sacrifice to save all future goats, the scapegoat is still very much a thing. It's human nature.
We are in times of perceived trouble. We're worried, frustrated, and angry and we don't know what to do about it. The only thing we can do is offer up someone of high standing in the hopes that society will in some way benefit from our sacrifice.
I mean, it won't. But I like to think that PDP is the village girl given the queen for a day treatment just so that we could sacrifice her to save our fields later... it's the only way his popularity makes sense to me.
Hayfield
Banned
He's got like 10 million subs in the last month. This is the far left media's reaction to that not PDP's attempt at more attention. Hell, even the video being criticised couldn't be further from the narrative you are pushing, the last 10 minutes of it was him giving a list of smaller YouTube channels that you should subscribe to instead of him.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
Dude makes millions a year, right? Can’t he hire an aid that vets this kind of stuff?
Sqorin Hammerfarf
Banned
In order to see what crazy people see, they'd have to be crazy themselves. One does not stare into the abyss without the abyss staring back.
buizel
Banned
Yeah but the time needed to sift through hours of other peoples content to look out for racy content is too much to be able to meet his 1 vid a day quota probably. I mean in one video he reccomended aobut 30 channels, each with presumably hundreds of hours of content - would literally be impossible to sift through it all in a day just to avoid this.
And he shouldn't have to more than anything, in a way having to hire someone/multiple people, pay them and do what youre asking would kinda be playing into the alt-left's court, because pewdiepie would be losing out therefore alt-left = winning
^^^ Much better answer than me, wonder if anyones been banned on the other forum in this topic. I know some people have been on Felix's defense over there so expect a bloodbath
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
They apparently are the only one's able to hear "dog whistles" as well with their newspeak Orwellian terms.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
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See more than 25 people every day by different clinic cases.
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Lionel Richie
Member
I just watched a bit of the E;R review of Solo and I thought it was entertaining enough, I honestly don't understand how people can't seem to assume that maybe PDP did the same and recommended the channel without researching everything about it like a motherfucking crazy obsessive person.
Keep in mind I don't even care about normie e-celebs controversy, but I hate when people expect others to act in a way that nobody does.
Keep in mind I don't even care about normie e-celebs controversy, but I hate when people expect others to act in a way that nobody does.
Sqorin Hammerfarf
Banned
I've never understood the "dog whistle" thing. I mean, the thing about dog whistles is that only the dogs can hear them. So if you are going on and on about racist dog whistles that only you seem to be able to hear... doesn't that suggest something rather untoward about you?
Sqorin Hammerfarf
Banned
PewdiePie doesn't use his platform to criticize the choices of others and call everybody else Nazis. Kotaku does. Therefore, if this happened to Kotaku, it would be a hilarious bit of accidental hypocrisy and it'd be difficult not to enjoy the schadenfreude.
Shin
Banned
Poor reading ability and a even more horrible assumption on your part with that response.
Perhaps I should word it better instead of using the term "this" as it lead to a stupid reaction and assumption.
I don't follow him nor care for what he does, what I'm responding to is that this all is rinse and repeat.
Whether it's a racial thing, nazi thing or whatever, rinse and repeat......rinse and repeat.
infinitys_7th
Member
We wouldn't be raging, we would be laughing. We don't care that someone makes edgy jokes.
And Era and those sorts would probably go after your hypothetical journalist regardless.
DonF
Member
People forget that PDP is Swedish. I know that at this time he is an international entertainer, but come on. He can't be over all cultures. Even if he has an international audience. He even says that some of the references of E;R are kinda obscure.
This is like that guy that had a psn profile named Kike. Dude, Kike is a very VERY common nick name for people called Enrique in spanish speaking countries.
People see PDP with american sensibilities.
This is like that guy that had a psn profile named Kike. Dude, Kike is a very VERY common nick name for people called Enrique in spanish speaking countries.
People see PDP with american sensibilities.
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It's just a tactic.
When you think about it, it's absolutely necessary to come up with a concept like "dog whistle" when you are going to accuse people who aren't "The Terrible Thing" of being that thing.
They set themselves up as the "experts" who are the only ones who know the special secret information that you don't know.
A: Mr X is an alt-right scumbag.
B: Really? But he's pro same sex marriage and pro choice and I haven't heard him saying anything racist.
A: No, no, no you don't understand he uses all these dog whistles to signal to far right white supremacists.
B: Um... I don't see it.
A: That's the thing >> I << understand all of their secret signals and >> I'm << telling you he's alt-right. Are you seriously defending Nazis right now?
So you're actually fighting an uphill battle if you wanted to actually defend someone, or yourself, from the accusation. You've got all these self-proclaimed experts who have all these "techniques" for trapping people in the accusation. They may add to this by gently implying that you too could be accused if you don't agree.
They seem to do it a lot with Jordan Peterson, for example. I think the dudes work shows him clearly as an anti-authoritarian and he's definitely against identity politics, which white supremacy would obviously fall under. They need to find a way around that if he is to be accused of being a Nazi and if his "supporters" are to be accused in turn.
So the tactic is to say "but the far right like him" and then you can double down on that by saying that he communicates with them via "dog whistles". So just a regular person who thinks JP is pretty interesting or has some good points can maybe be swayed by a self proclaimed expert saying "well actually there are hidden evil messages here that only I can see". Provided, of course, that the "expert" gives off an air of confidence and trustworthiness. OR if there is an implied threat that if you don't agree that there are some secret dog whistles being used then you may find yourself accused next.
It's not the only thing they try to use.
A: You're The Terrible Thing!!
B: No, I am not The Terrible Thing.
A: HA! That's exactly what someone who IS The Terrible Thing would say! GOTCHA!
Fuz
Banned
Why should he? He did nothing wrong.
Fuz
Banned
Sounds like your job, not some sort of charity work.
Can’t say I watch a lot of pewds, but he doesn’t come off as alt-right or right wing from what I’ve seen. I do think he has contempt for the media, but I think that is based off his personal experiences and not his political beliefs which I don’t think I’ve ever really heard him talk about.
At worst, he seems like an upbeat color commentator on current events with the occasional edgy joke slipped in here and there.
At worst, he seems like an upbeat color commentator on current events with the occasional edgy joke slipped in here and there.
Halo is Back
Member
No its just another hate campaign by "journalist" to defame him. I have never liked Pewdipie's content but he is actually a decent guy who just makes dumb mistakes.
Halo is Back
Member
He did nothing wrong and it would be a waste of money. He did the smart thing and started a charity for child labor in India. Trying to turn something negative into something positive.
Joe T.
Member
You're using extremes the same way the author of the article did. It's not nothing, but it's not something worth raising such a stink about either.
Lightsbane
Member
Ya know what? I think it's about time I subscribed to PewDiePie. All these witch hunts do is make me want to hit that bell button.
Hayfield
Banned
Lol. Pot meet kettle.
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Blood Borne
Member
Hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate. That’s all one hears these days. I’m beginning to think that the hate police are really and truly the hate mongers. Because their hate list keeps on expanding, very soon everyone will be on their hate list.
lukilladog
Member
It´s starting to sound like nazis are individuals accused too much without basis now.
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DonF
Member
If you take the time to read the thread, I believe its pretty level headed, with some exceptions on both sides.
Sqorin Hammerfarf
Banned
I mean, they already have a hate list. It's called "intersectionality".
Cybrwzrd
Banned
Mel Brooks would disagree with you. Do you know how to make Nazis less relevant? You make them the butt of jokes instead of the boogeyman in your closet. And with how fabulous they dressed, they know a lot about being in closets.
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Charities. But much like the websites that try to raise a stink, it usually gets ignored and they aren't aware. Much like you weren't yourself until a fellow poster pointed this out.
Skrattar Du Förlorar Du
So i take it you don't watch him. Noted! For those who are not up to snuff, including you Billy, here is this quality post i made regarding PDP.
And then you know, Youtube changed its policy. Even a guy like PDP couldn't stop that. Seems a bit silly to blame him for something he didn't even do. Something you would know if you actually were interested instead of projecting.
Not like PDP hasn't said a dozen times already that he is very aware of his position and how lucky he is. Something you would know if you actually were interested instead of projecting.
Which has what, done twice and it has been over a year ago, but yes, keep on holding it against him when since he addressed taking measurements to avoid doing this, he actually avoided doing it ever since. He still brings this up as a reminder for himself from time to time in his video's, which means he took his lessons from it and is now incorporating it as an example of how not to do things. Something you would know if you actually were interested instead of projecting.
Rarely do i come across a view that i not only disagree with, but is also profoundly naive on an aggressive level. I have seen posters make naive statements, but not out of malice and that's fine. Nobody knows everything. But this is being angry at a guy without wanting to see the rest of the picture.
Honestly, what kind of post is this?
He has done it twice however but i just find it rather petty to still use this argument when the burden was accepted and people have moved on. To me it implies you don't really follow his content, yet you still feel compelled to criticize the man on what are now outdated grounds.
I am part of that fanbase. Am i rabid in your eyes?
I was just going to put this in, but yeah, the charities Pew does hardly get recognition by the sites that blame him.
No, you are simply letting negativity surrounding PDP (Much like these clickbait articles here) be the better of you. Or, if that assumption is incorrect (and by which i apologize): Then your question is disingenous.
So i take it you don't know his stuff. Admittely, to an outsider, a random PDP video is hard to discern whether it is geniune or not. You would be surprised to know that behind the character, there is also another guy named Felix.
Which would make a callout like he does far less spontaneous and much more unnatural. Besides, would we really need to know everything about a channel when the part he voiced support for is something that is completely different to the accusation made?
Horns is also a douchebag.*
*It does not really work when you don't explain why. So please, elaborate.**
**I do not think you are a douchebag.***
***I do think you have a bag somewhere at home though.
Except nobody is doing this. And if Kotaku did what the same? Making the same crappy call-out or what?
SoulUnison
Banned
This goes both ways and it's hard to make a call.
On one hand, with literally millions of people watching him just to catch him screw up, I doubt he's overtly trying to Trojan Horse Nazi shit into the mainstream.
On the other hand, he's kind of a major multimedia brand focused entirely on himself and he doesn't seem to take even basic responsibility or do simple due diligence to research the things he promotes. That's pretty dangerous regardless of what he's blindly (or knowingly) sponsoring, and he's done it enough times now that it should be obvious he's never going to learn, or even try to.
On one hand, with literally millions of people watching him just to catch him screw up, I doubt he's overtly trying to Trojan Horse Nazi shit into the mainstream.
On the other hand, he's kind of a major multimedia brand focused entirely on himself and he doesn't seem to take even basic responsibility or do simple due diligence to research the things he promotes. That's pretty dangerous regardless of what he's blindly (or knowingly) sponsoring, and he's done it enough times now that it should be obvious he's never going to learn, or even try to.
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danielberg
Neophyte
Eh its all jokes so if you have issues with that you better now go after every stand up comedian ever making jokes about ww2 or nazis.
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jadedm17
Member
That's a simple mistake but nonetheless a big one for someone with the biggest channels on YouTube and has also had controversy before; I personally research what I share on Facebook and I'm only sharing that stuff to a few hundred people... PewDiePie is millions.
recma12
Member
I agree with everything you say, but "6 million" isn't taking the piss out of Nazis (the actual ones). It's making fun of their victims.
Posting that joke on this forum is not a decent thing to do IMHO.
From a comedic standpoint, they are such a lame, low hanging fruit anyways.
I love that GAF offers a wide variety of opinions and hate these "I'm offended" losers on ERA as much as the next guy, but Holocaust jokes should remain off limits.
Rei dos Vermes
Member
Everyone who is against globalism, the Marxist doctrine, and the political correctness movement is a Nazi in 2018. Also, being a right-wing person automatically makes you a racist, misogynist, xenophobic, homophobic, etc. That's how crazy the world is today.
Sqorin Hammerfarf
Banned
It wasn't. I can explain it to you if you want. And given the (predictable) response, it also works double duty as a satirical commentary on Pewdiepie's detractors. I hope you've enjoyed being an unwitting pawn in my clever ruse.
Too soon?
I always find that the best comedic advice comes from people with no sense of humor.
Who made you Judge Judy and executioner?
O.v.e.rlord
Banned
Nah. E;R is funny as fuck. I really do not understand why every thing that has a differing opinion is bad or is a Nazi. If people dont agree with something then that is their right. But to slander them and call them “Nazis” is just dumb. It feels like if i like something that someone else doesn’t i become the worst thing ever. The problem that I see going forward is that people have tied their political beliefs to there litteral character, and any thing that goes against their political beliefs is an attack on them. I do not agree with how things are going but i am powerless to stop people from feeling a certain way. To me this just feels like anther attack on PDP because he is a big target, and these people will go to any langeths to bring him down.