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[Gaiff]

I think the concept of generations has been obsolete for quite some time now. Playstation control when the next Playstation generation starts. Nothing more, nothing less.

They really don’t. They still have to respond to market trends and forces. They can’t just release the next PlayStation when they feel it’s right. It’s when the market is ready and they are.

You are right, however, that the concept of generation is obsolete and has been for a few years.

 

[foamdino]

Maybe but info for the PS6 has been passed around for quite awhile already

Some people have the white sheets in hand of target specs

Look at the date of this Tweet

Target spec sheets I'm sure are in the wild as a late '27 or '28 release date would mean that Sony would have had to start preparing internal devs and big partners on what they think they can deliver and to get feedback on proposed spec vs dev team wants/demands. I would expect specs to become much more nailed down end of this year/early '26 so that prototyping etc can start

I'd actually think it's more likely we'd get more info on whatever MS is up to this year since the rumours have been that MS will release next year (so they must have prototypes ready by now/soon-ish)

 

[64bitmodels]

NintendoToo I guess

nah- it's Nintendoes. rolls off the tongue way better

 

[SweetTooth]

NintendoToo I guess

 

[OverHeat]

The price of the ps6 will skyrocket if true.

 

[UltimaKilo]

Uhhh... A PS6 is likely in early R&D stage. I wouldn’t take any rumors seriously until mid 2026, at the earliest.

 

[Kikorin]

If I was Sony I'd first try to release at least a couple of PS5 only games before release another console.

 

[Radical_3d]

By 2028 3nm is going to be speleology tier tech. I miss when TSMC had competition.

 

[samoilaaa]

I have right now on my backlog or partially done (from last year):
* Metaphor Refantazio (not started)
* Astrobot (just started)
* Helldivers 2 (not really started)
* FFVII Rebirth (not started)
* FFXVI (from the previous year - not finished yet)
* BG3 (not finished yet - PC)
* Path of Exile 2 (early access in December, 100+ hours in so far)
* Labrynth of Galleria (from 2020)

Finished last year
* Octopath Traveller 2 (from the previous year)
* Gran Blue Fantasy: Relink
* Unicorn Overlord
* Trails of Cold Steel (1 & 2) - catching up with the series so I can even start Trails through Daybreak (and trails through daybreak 2 is releasing this year)

There are more than enough games if you look outside the western bubble

i think he was talking about 1st party games

 

[Boss Mog]

How many PS5s taped together? this means nothing to anyone.

It does mean something since the Ryzen X3D chips are the best PC CPUs for gaming so I can only imagine the switch to 3D on the PS6 APU will help it gain extra performance.

 

[mayham2199]

Who gives a shit about next generation when this generation will be viable for all games until at least 2033?

While this is true I'll still be upgrading day 1.

 

[onQ123]

I believe we will see another PS5 before or at the same time as PS6

 

[Crm114]

Thx OP I went into GameStop today and put in a deposit for my preorder

 

[DeepEnigma]

I believe we will see another PS5 before or at the same time as PS6

Another shrinkage? Surely not spec bumps.

 

[Kenneth Haight]

How many more hairs on Aloys face will I be able to see between this and my PS5 Pro?

 

[MikeM]

I’m not surprised considering AMD announced more x3d mobile chips for the 9000 series. Seems like the final test play before next gen consoles get taped out.

 

[Kilau]

APU: Halo X3D

 

[Kataploom]

How many 5090 duck-taped together is that? How many Ks?

 

[PaintTinJr]

Chinese forum leaker has claimed that AMD's Zen 6, Zen 6 (Medusa) Halo APU, and next generation UDNA GPU will all be manufactured on TSMC's N3E process technology.

1. Zen 6 Halo will utilize 3D stacking for improved performance, N3E.
2. AMD has revived its high end/flagship graphics chips for next generation UDNA (RDNA5) architecture set to launch in 2nd half 2026, N3E.
3. Zen 6 IO chiplet to be upgraded to TSMC N4C process. (Cost optimized 4nm)
4. Sony's future console will similarly utilize chips with AMD's 3D stacked designs. Process unknown.

Source:

https://videocardz.com/newz/next-ge...gship-gpu-line-on-tsmc-n3e-node-claims-leaker

https://www.chiphell.com/thread-2666416-1-1.html

Makes sense. From Cerny's last technical video about using stacked caches for ML AI upscaling in the PS5 pro for PSSR and discussing the bandwidth gains of effectively palletizing the processing across WGPs, it is probably a smaller paradigm shift to effectively CrossFire/SLI workloads when you are working at such granularity to sum cache bandwidths and working with such general purpose WGPs that going above 36CUs has major gains where a raster/RT and ML workload spread across them all simultaneously lowers the collective processing latency.

 

[Long Far Gone]

All this talk about PS6 seems ridiculous to me until I realised the PS5 launched 4 years and 2 months ago...get me off this train, lads, it's going way too fast.

 

[Horseganador]

 

[CrustyBritches]

Halo CE Remastered will also look bonkers on that beast

That's a hurtful comment, man.

 

[Knightime_X]

I'll just wait for the $1,299 ps6 pro edition.

 

[xanaum]

I seriously doubt the truth of this because Sony seems to keep console specs super secure when it comes to new entries. Only with updated versions like the PRO do they seem to loosen up a bit.

 

[Haint]

Just because something is on AMD's roadmap, doesn't mean it's going to be on the PS6.
Who ever made this list has no idea of what really is going onto the PS6 and just threw everything at the wall to see what sticks.

If this is really the 2026 roadmap they have very very good odds of appearing in a Holiday 2027/2028 PS6 though, they have always used (then) older designs for the console APUs. Zen7 and RDNA6 will be releasing in the PC space by the time PS6 launches. So it's less throwing shit at walls and more writing a quite likely prediction in the shit.

 

[Evil Calvin]

Release some games that utilize the power of the PS5 first.

Douchebags!

 

[Insane Metal]

I don't believe it (PS6/3D Stacked). Way too new tech for a console yet to come. Unless they release it at like $899 or something.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

No shot this is true at this stage

 

[KeplerL2]

I understand, but this early it's probably nothing past initial design docs or on paper, theoretical, stuff before any kind of actual research is being done, I reckon in my completely untrained ways

PS6 is design complete and in pre-si validation already, with A0 tapeout scheduled for late this year.

 

[adamsapple]

PS6 is design complete and in pre-si validation already, with A0 tapeout scheduled for late this year.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Behind the scenes its much further along than people realize

 

[Bry0]

PS6 is design complete and in pre-si validation already, with A0 tapeout scheduled for late this year.

He has spoken.

 

[TheUndeadGamer]

So, since the new Xbox doesn’t seem to be coming out next year, will 2027 be the year then? I just don’t believe the next Xbox will be coming out next year. I think even some of the leakers that were saying next year are now backtracking.

 

[SplunkyMunkey]

Even if it's untrue but having stacked or utilising x3d chip in cpu n gpu or cpu alone. The cache alone would possibly help the pssr alot more

 

[Lagspike_exe]

PS6 is design complete and in pre-si validation already, with A0 tapeout scheduled for late this year.

Wait, what? Are they going to launch PS6 on an N3 derivative? That won't allow for that much of an increase in transistor density vs. PS5 Pro, so they'd have to have meaningful architecture gains and/or scale up the die size to get meaningful improvements.

 

[Panajev2001a]

Behind the scenes its much further along than people realize

Just enough time to allow for a meaningful new architecture overall and a jump over PS5 Pro, but not enough time to really give Xbox time to breathe…

 

[Codeblew]

I am sure Sony has an ongoing rough design for PS6 at this point. But they are nowhere near having a final design this far out. Here are my guesses that I am pulling out of my ass:
-12 core, single CCD, Zen 7 laptop CPU with 3D cache
-Whatever mid range GPU chip AMD has around that time
-32 gb ram
-SSD with current PCIE 5 speeds or slightly better
-Disc drive sold separately
-Black or Grey in color with blue highlights

 

[KeplerL2]

Wait, what? Are they going to launch PS6 on an N3 derivative? That won't allow for that much of an increase in transistor density vs. PS5 Pro, so they'd have to have meaningful architecture gains and/or scale up the die size to get meaningful improvements.

Not necessarily, Zen6 is design complete too and some of it is on N2.

 

[Lagspike_exe]

Not necessarily, Zen6 is design complete too and some of it is on N2.

That's a pretty compelling package, depending on what GPU they go with. 2nm and Zen 6 is quite a jump from the current Zen 2 setup.

 

[KeplerL2]

That's a pretty compelling package, depending on what GPU they go with. 2nm and Zen 6 is quite a jump from the current Zen 2 setup.

GPU is an early fork of gfx13, dunno how big.

 

[TheRedRiders]

PS6 is design complete and in pre-si validation already, with A0 tapeout scheduled for late this year.

I was skeptical honestly, I thought the PS6 SoC would still be in the early design phase, it was the case with both PS4 and PS5 there was design decisions made late into the consoles development, for PS4 it was going from 4GB of RAM to 8 and with the PS5 it was the addition of ray-tracing (hence the notorious github leaks).

I'll take your word for it though.

As for the feature set of the actual chip, anyone thinking we're going to get a straight doubling of rasterisation then I highly doubt, Mark Cerny made a lot of comments which tell us where PS6 is headed which is adding in more fixed function accelerators for ML/AI and ray-tracing. We're already seeing this with Nvidia going from the 4090 to the 5090.

 

[Astray]

PS6 will absolutely have a Series S/X thing going on imo. They will have the market power to be able to get devs to support it, and Switch 3 (or whatever Nintendo makes next) likely won't be happening until PS6 is launched.

From a pure brutal business sense, the move that maximizes their install base is going to be a product bifurcation, especially if you consider that SteamOS-style consoles might be in full-swing by then with multiple spec sheets on the market.

 

[SonGoku]

I'm pretty sure Sony said they'll not delay the PS6 launch because of the PS5 Pro.

Arent they on 8 year cycles? 2028/2029 does not seem far fetched

 

[AJUMP23]

It will also be an Xbox.

 

[TheRedRiders]

PS6 will absolutely have a Series S/X thing going on imo. They will have the market power to be able to get devs to support it, and Switch 3 (or whatever Nintendo makes next) likely won't be happening until PS6 is launched.

From a pure brutal business sense, the move that maximizes their install base is going to be a product bifurcation, especially if you consider that SteamOS-style consoles might be in full-swing by then with multiple spec sheets on the market.

If they do go down that route (which I don't think they will), I suspect they will make the base console a solid generation upgrade with a brand new feature set, and a Pro variant which scales up the design of the base console.This is distinct from Series X/S, in which they designed the base console Series X and then scaled down the chip for the Series X ( a shit stratergy in retrospect)

 

[Lagspike_exe]

GPU is an early fork of gfx13, dunno how big.

So it could even be a late 2026 launch. Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!

 

[RodriGames40]

PS6 will absolutely have a Series S/X thing going on imo. They will have the market power to be able to get devs to support it, and Switch 3 (or whatever Nintendo makes next) likely won't be happening until PS6 is launched.

From a pure brutal business sense, the move that maximizes their install base is going to be a product bifurcation, especially if you consider that SteamOS-style consoles might be in full-swing by then with multiple spec sheets on the market.

To be fair, I wouldn't even be mad at that. It will have PSSR 2.0 which will raise its ballpark significantly and hopefully some AI capabilities to try and keep up with 2025 Nvidia. PS5 Pro TFLOPS are more than fine, it just needs the AI squeeze.

 

[SpokkX]

Chinese forum leaker has claimed that AMD's Zen 6, Zen 6 (Medusa) Halo APU, and next generation UDNA GPU will all be manufactured on TSMC's N3E process technology.

1. Zen 6 Halo will utilize 3D stacking for improved performance, N3E.
2. AMD has revived its high end/flagship graphics chips for next generation UDNA (RDNA5) architecture set to launch in 2nd half 2026, N3E.
3. Zen 6 IO chiplet to be upgraded to TSMC N4C process. (Cost optimized 4nm)
4. Sony's future console will similarly utilize chips with AMD's 3D stacked designs. Process unknown.

Source:

https://videocardz.com/newz/next-ge...gship-gpu-line-on-tsmc-n3e-node-claims-leaker

https://www.chiphell.com/thread-2666416-1-1.html

Zzzz consoles are just old pc:s now. Except nintendo that does original stuff at least

Who really thinks this will impress? Both XB and PS have lost a lot of their reason for existing imo

 

[KeplerL2]

So it could even be a late 2026 launch. Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!

Sony's usual cadence is 2 years from A0 tapeout to console release.

 

[Kaiserstark]

GPU is an early fork of gfx13, dunno how big.

Some people here think In terms of rasterization, the performance of a 4080 should be what the PS6 would have, do you think that's plausible ?

I'm very curious to see the improvements in terms of RT that AMD will have for the console.