chaobreaker
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Good guide on how to catch those doggos:
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Pokémon Gold & Pokemon Silver Virtual Console |OT| The Nostalgia Is Crystal Clear
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Munch Poke
Member
While that's a wonderful guide and would be super helpful I couldn't tolerate the tedium. And since I had already cloned for starters I went ahead and just cloned my masterball too. That certainly simplified things. I'd feel more guilty if this was even close to the first time running through these games.
But hey, Suicune is a great addition to my team.
But hey, Suicune is a great addition to my team.
chaobreaker
Member
You can't catch them with cloned Master Balls them if you can't find them in the first place, which this guide does a good job explaining how to efficiently.
This is awesome! Thanks!
Dark Orchid
Member
So someone who understands the code better than me, if I had several failed attempts at ACE with incorrect Route 29 Pokemon would that result in a weird item in my Mystery Gift slot? I just got an EXP Share from it and I know that's not a possible item.
Elaugaufein
Member
Arbitrary Code Execution is taking control of the system to run instructions of your choice and the content of Mystery Gift is writable by the game so yeah that's a possible outcome, but if you don't know exactly what happened it's better to reset without saving after failed ACE, you don't know what data it has altered / corrupted which can result in glitches on the save later.
Good guide on how to catch those doggos:
They're cattos
Entei - Lion
Raikou - Sabertooth Tiger
Suicune - Cheetah/Jaguar
Dark Orchid
Member
Yeah I know what it is, it's just theoretically nothing should have happened. The Route 29s / slides to my understanding are there so the game starts reading the Quagsire and box names after passing over them. There was also no saving done in the glitched pallet mode or post-glitch as the game was crashing to the title, so I was confused as how this was there.
What I'm thinking is that the stats of the slide or even just the crash itself might have taken over mystery gift, and in that case I should probably mystery gift again because I bet there's a glitch trainer in the Battle House right now. At least there wasn't any glitch mail.
Nocturnowl
Member
40 minutes plus trying that mahogany town/fly technique to find even a single beast and nothing, fuuuuuck this feature, fuuuuuck mathematics.
I just want to master ball entei
Edit: went back to my tactic of the route with the farm, found suicune and raikou twice but no entei, why you do this game?!
I just want to master ball entei
Edit: went back to my tactic of the route with the farm, found suicune and raikou twice but no entei, why you do this game?!
megarockexe
Member
I'm really struggling with the Elite 4, as I suspected being so underleveled. It doesn't help they take away an undisclosed buttload of money when you lose. I now have a team in the low 40 levels which is clearly not enough.
It should be! I had two Pokemon in the mid-high 40s and the rest high 30s and I beat it. I was fairly lucky with type advantages and I did use some items.
I always save before I go in and then between battles so I don't lose money.
Beren the Empty-Handed
Member
Velcro Fly
Member
Got my team up to the mid 40s. Going to do Victory Road tomorrow and hopefully the E4. Then comes the Kanto romp. I think I am stopping after Blue.
The Shadow Knight
Member
Depending on your team you might be able to take out Red with liberal use of x items.
Elaugaufein
Member
IIRC you lose half your money on white out in Gen 1/2 they capped it based on your opponents trainer class and level significantly later.
Junahu
Member
Teleport home and give all your money to your mother. That way you can just throw yourself at the Elite 4 repeatedly until your levels increase.
Low and Mid 40s should be enough to squeak by, but it really depends on your team.
For example here's what I entered the Hall of Fame with;
Lv 45 Espeon: Bite/Psybeam
Lv 46 Quagsire: Earthquake/Surf/Ice Punch
Lv 45 Fearow: Drill Peck/Mirror Move
Lv 41 Jumpluff: Sleep Powder/Poison Powder/Leech Seed/Synthesis
Lv 43 Typhlosion: Flame Wheel/Smokescreen
Velcro Fly
Member
For my next playthrough of this game I've already come up with the ultimate cheese strat involving getting my Gold file on a second 3DS that I used for trade evos on this file up to the point where I can trade with RBY so that I can catch a level 5 Gastly and move it along to Yellow to teach it some good TMs and actually be able to level and eventually evolve Gastly into Gengar.
Nocturnowl
Member
I thought keeping a team of four would help me overcome this games awful levelling curve, alas I reach the Elite 4 around 34-35 a piece with an Entei attached as a bonus fifth backup.
Then Will kicked my butt with his psychic spam, man must've been visiting mr Psychic's house a lot for TMs because my Xatu ain't learning that move at 40 I'm sure!
Also some of these movesets man, so I got this Heracross, the bug/fighting type whose only same type moves I could rustle up from TMs were rock smash and fury cutter.
Xatu has only just learned a psychic move and its the less than impressive future sight.
At least Quagsire bucked the trend learning earthquake...then minutes later I found its TM anyway.
Then Will kicked my butt with his psychic spam, man must've been visiting mr Psychic's house a lot for TMs because my Xatu ain't learning that move at 40 I'm sure!
Also some of these movesets man, so I got this Heracross, the bug/fighting type whose only same type moves I could rustle up from TMs were rock smash and fury cutter.
Xatu has only just learned a psychic move and its the less than impressive future sight.
At least Quagsire bucked the trend learning earthquake...then minutes later I found its TM anyway.
Where can I find:
Exp share
Fire stone
headbutt
?
Getting my Eevee happy enough to evolve is a real pain, I don't get home til gone 6pm so I can't evolve it until a day off... that and it is taking ages to go beyond "it's quite cute".
My team:
Dratini
Vulpix
Ampharos
Feraligatr
Fearow
Eevee
I'll replace Fearow if/when I get Dragonite. Not sure what I'll swap it out for yet. Just got to the league.
Exp share
Fire stone
headbutt
?
Getting my Eevee happy enough to evolve is a real pain, I don't get home til gone 6pm so I can't evolve it until a day off... that and it is taking ages to go beyond "it's quite cute".
My team:
Dratini
Vulpix
Ampharos
Feraligatr
Fearow
Eevee
I'll replace Fearow if/when I get Dragonite. Not sure what I'll swap it out for yet. Just got to the league.
Nocturnowl
Member
Headbutt is in Ilex Forest, I think you talk to an NPC there.
Henceforth you can then buy it from Goldenrod's department store.
Fire Stone has to wait until Kanto along with leaf and water stones, Bill's House.
Can't recall EXP share.
Henceforth you can then buy it from Goldenrod's department store.
Fire Stone has to wait until Kanto along with leaf and water stones, Bill's House.
Can't recall EXP share.
Dark Orchid
Member
Trade the Red Scale you get from fighting the red Gyarados to Mr. Pokemon on Route 30.
Mystery Gift rare drop or wait until Kanto, show Bill's grandfather a Lickitung, and then wait a day for a 1/5 chance for him to ask to see Vulpix.
Take the right path at the northernmost ledge in Ilex Forest and follow it until you see a man with green hair staring at a tree. He will give you TM02 Headbutt and then more will be available on the 4th floor of the Goldenrod Department Store.
The Shadow Knight
Member
You trade the red scale from Gyarados with Mr. Pokemon for Exp. Share.
EDIT: Murkrow ninjas.
EDIT: Murkrow ninjas.
Velcro Fly
Member
16 badges get!
Team of:
Typhlosion (Fire Punch)
Politoed (Surf, Ice Punch)
Ampharos (Thunder Punch)
Alakazam (Psychic)
Machamp (Cross Chop, Dig)
Golem (Earthquake, Rock Throw)
Team is level 52-55. I could probably level them up a bit more and have a go at Red but I'd rather just move on to another RPG. I think whenever I play Gold and have my hax Gengar and Kingdra I will face off against Red.
33 hours exactly as well.
Team of:
Typhlosion (Fire Punch)
Politoed (Surf, Ice Punch)
Ampharos (Thunder Punch)
Alakazam (Psychic)
Machamp (Cross Chop, Dig)
Golem (Earthquake, Rock Throw)
Team is level 52-55. I could probably level them up a bit more and have a go at Red but I'd rather just move on to another RPG. I think whenever I play Gold and have my hax Gengar and Kingdra I will face off against Red.
33 hours exactly as well.
The Shadow Knight
Member
Ampharos can solo red at that level with a bunch of x items and some full restores. Not sure about Golem, depends on whether red switches out Pikachu on ground types.
Inyourprime
Member
I don't know if I can do this, since I don't have two 3DSs, but can I trade mons between the virtual console and an emulator?
Dark Orchid
Member
Short answer: No.
Long version: Yes but not only would you need to mod your 3DS in the first place, you would need to edit the save with a hex editor at least twice to even get it to load in an emulator and your 3DS once it's been changed. It would honestly be easier to move the save to your PC and use PKHeX to transfer Pokemon between files and edit the happiness back to 70 yourself or change the species should they evolve, but this is technically "cheating".
Or...you could just create duplicates of the Master Ball.
No, they're dogs.
Inyourprime
Member
Thanks. Transferring my save to my PC would be easier and probably will be the thing I do.
The process of finding the bastards is still the same, though. I mean, yeah, you can ignore steps 1-3 if you want but you still gotta find them.
The Shadow Knight
Member
Kadabra performs pretty similarly to Alakzam in-game, I find.
Other than that there's Quagsire, Jynx, the nidos, Slowbro and Feraligatr to name a few.
Guess I'll stick to feraligatr for now. I'm trying a jotho only run.
ajim
Member
Me tooMe too.
Okay, I have a shitton of nostalgia for this game since it's the first Pokemon game I played. I must have replayed it a dozen times as a kid before I (dumbly) sold it..
I also played the remake, so my question is-- why should I get this instead of just replay the remake? The OT says there are changes that may not be for the best, but I cannot remember any (and there are many benefits to the newer game).
I also played the remake, so my question is-- why should I get this instead of just replay the remake? The OT says there are changes that may not be for the best, but I cannot remember any (and there are many benefits to the newer game).
Nocturnowl
Member
I really think it just comes down to if you prefer the snappier pace of the original compared to the slower gen 4 remake.
Ideally I'd have played the remake again now I think about it since I never replayed it but I'm just not fond of the remakes more plodding engine.
AlexFlame116
Member
Playing this game again I realized I loathe confusion status. Especially when it's a Golbat or Tentacruel.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
I wish they'd put a teeny bit more effort in and included wifi trading.
Saucestin_Roast
Member
Yep. I used to go apeshit as a kid when in caves and constantly getting hit by confusion status.
Aaron Strife
Banned
Indeed. Had an opportunity to trade with a friend last night, but he hasnt reached Ecutreak yet so I couldnt get all my guys from Yellow out that you cant get in G/S (the starters, the birds, fossils and Mewtwo/Mew). I was able to get Spinarak and most of the trade evolutions, but Im still missing Kingdra, Politoed and Porygon2 as Im lacking a Seadra, Poliwhirl or Porygon in the first place as I wasnt totally prepared for that.
Being able to do Wi-Fi trading would help this immensely.
After all these years I finally found a fucking Heracross. And no wonder. Poor kid me, there was one specific tree that was my only shot
megarockexe
Member
Yeah, I finally beat the Elite Four.
Here's the final playtime.
And the team that got me through it.
I'm just going to take some old Pokemon I abandoned earlier for the Kanto sections. This is still mostly new to me.
Here's the final playtime.
And the team that got me through it.
I'm just going to take some old Pokemon I abandoned earlier for the Kanto sections. This is still mostly new to me.
perfectchaos007
Member
I forgot how pointless kanto is in this game. Is there even any way to check the Kanto badges I earn? Seems like it doesn't keep track
Pokemaniac
Member
They do increment your badge count. I forget if there's a way to check specific badges, though.
AlexFlame116
Member
If only those wild Pokémon would STOP ESCAPING AND STAY IN THE DARN BALL!!!
Dark Orchid
Member
I swear there's a glitch sometimes where they'll just fail in a long chain. Took 2 Ultras and a Pokeball to catch a 1 HP Level 3 Pidgey the other day.
AlexFlame116
Member
I threw 15 Great Balls at a level 15 Farfetch'd that was on low health and paralyzed. I know that paralysis doesn't help capture odds due to a bug nut my Jigglypuff just could not get her to sleep at all!
megarockexe
Member
I'm new to this version's Kanto. How do I get to Pallet Town? Cerulean City is one-way and the ocean is blocked south.I haven't tried the objective yet, but it does seem like a few things are missing. And why does it have its own level curve? Who is this for?
Aaron Strife
Banned
Beat/catch Snorlax, go through Digletts Cave, south of Pewter/Viridian.
And yes the level curve is all sorts of ass. They seem to have been trying to mimic the levels in the original games so by the time you get to route 1 everything is level 2-4 and shit.
Any way to force swarms or is it completely random?
Paralysis doesn't facilitate capture in G/S. Only sleep/freezing.
AnkiRendan
Member
Out of curiosity, what did you do for the Espeon and Umbreon? Did you clone the Eevee from Bill or did you breed new ones?