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13thStep

Member
All I have really seen is people not liking the last 2 Castlevania games on PS3. I played both, thought they were really good and enjoyed them both immensely.
 

xviper

Member
The last of us is by far the most overrated game of all time

i don't know what's special about it, the story is generic and we have seen it in hollywood hundreds of times

the characters are unlikeable, except for Joel

what makes it amazing for me is the awesome AWESOME melee combat

when it came out in 2013 everyone says that it had the best graphics ever, What the fucking fuck ??? how the fuck did they not see Beyond: two souls ?? that game looks even better than most games today

there is one thing in The last of us that is better than 99% of games these days, and that is the voice acting, it made the characters alive, which is something impressive to be honest

TLOU is an amazing game, but nowhere near a masterpiece
 

OCD Guy

Member
Nintendo are cunts with their business practice. Just a couple off the top of my head:

Why the fuck wasn't the joycon charging grip included in the box? It's not even as if it contains a battery in the grip, it's just a passthrough with usb connector.

Why are they locking more and more worthwhile content behind glamourised McDonalds toys.

I hope what happened to Sega happens to Nintendo.

I'm a fucking hypocrite that bought a Switch though so I'm fuelling this damn fire...
 

Auctopus

Member
the characters are unlikeable, except for Joel

I don't full disagree with your post, I think TLOU is pretty overrated. However, this point is really odd to me. I feel Joel is the most unlikeable character in the whole game (besides cannibalists, I suppose).
 

xviper

Member
I don't full disagree with your post, I think TLOU is pretty overrated. However, this point is really odd to me. I feel Joel is the most unlikeable character in the whole game (besides cannibalists, I suppose).

i didn't care about Ellie, wish if i can smash her face through a wall

i didn't care about the rest of the cast

Joel is the only one i liked, he's not trying too hard to be cool like Drake does, what made him likeable to me is that he can fist people to death and it's super fun while doing it
 
i didn't care about Ellie, wish if i can smash her face through a wall

i didn't care about the rest of the cast

Joel is the only one i liked, he's not trying too hard to be cool like Drake does, what made him likeable to me is that he can fist people to death and it's super fun while doing it
And this is why we can't have nice things...
 
when it came out in 2013 everyone says that it had the best graphics ever, What the fucking fuck ??? how the fuck did they not see Beyond: two souls ?? that game looks even better than most games today
TLOU is a very pretty game that uses a lot of creative visual tricks. It was arguably curb stomped by Crysis 3 on PC, released the same year, but TLOU was remarkable for a PS3 title, even if it prerendered a lot of stuff. (I personally consider RE6 more impressive in a certain sense because it doesn't switch to a pre-recorded video every time something "cinematic" happens.) You do have a point, though, about stuff like Beyond: Two Souls being overlooked.
 

entremet

Member
So since 3S may get another port to current gen consoles it got me thinking.

I think 3rd Strike is overrated trash. Beautiful art direction and music, but rather boring as a fighter.
 

ZangBa

Member
The Witcher 3 is awful. The story is boring and the gameplay is just bad. Every quest is the same shit, follow the red trail in detective vision and either kill something or find something. All of the characters are either annoying or assholes, sometimes both. Stupid, pointless crafting system. Why ever use armor and weapons that aren't Witcher gear? It's easy to find and upgrade and it's miles better. It's one of 2 games I regret buying this gen, but of the 2 I actually expected this one to be good.

Zelda BotW is also tedious and boring, with boring and bad combat and shitty sidequests. Since rain exists, you can only sometimes have any fun in this game. Shrines are no replacement for dungeons, they just aren't that good. I'm happy I got 40 bucks for it after I quit.
 

MCN

Banned
Nintendo are cunts with their business practice. Just a couple off the top of my head:

Why the fuck wasn't the joycon charging grip included in the box? It's not even as if it contains a battery in the grip, it's just a passthrough with usb connector.

Why are they locking more and more worthwhile content behind glamourised McDonalds toys.

I hope what happened to Sega happens to Nintendo.

I'm a fucking hypocrite that bought a Switch though so I'm fuelling this damn fire...

Nobody tell this guy about Xbox controllers not coming with the Play and Charge kit...
 
I look forward to GAAS and online future. I love games where I feel like I'm a part of a community, and get excited by a steady stream of content updates.

The only exception is Nintendo. They're one of the few devs who make worthwhile single player games.
 
MGS4 is the best one.

It's fucking miles above and beyond MGS5. But MGS3 is the one true masterpiece of the series.

Okay, after spending nearly 100 hours with Zelda BOTW and having it on my Switch as a travel companion for the past six weeks...

This is near the bottom of this year's ten best list. Maybe 5th or 6th, but no way is it better than some of the year's truly great titles that deliver above and beyond BOTW on things like presentation, story, and gameplay/combat mechanics (Horizon, RE7, etc.)

We've still got so many games to look forward to so the premature GOAT/GOTY status is really, really annoying. Especially when Mario Odyssey is coming up.
 

Crypt

Member
Resident Evil 4 is overrated and turned a great survival horror series into a shooter. Thankfully currently playing through 7 in VR and its bringing back the vibes of the original

I could not agree more. RE4 was the death of the series to me. Code Veronica was a better RE game than RE4. 7 was wonderful, and I can't wait for 2's remake.
 
The Witcher 3 is awful. The story is boring and the gameplay is just bad. Every quest is the same shit, follow the red trail in detective vision and either kill something or find something. All of the characters are either annoying or assholes, sometimes both. Stupid, pointless crafting system. Why ever use armor and weapons that aren't Witcher gear? It's easy to find and upgrade and it's miles better. It's one of 2 games I regret buying this gen, but of the 2 I actually expected this one to be good.

Zelda BotW is also tedious and boring, with boring and bad combat and shitty sidequests. Since rain exists, you can only sometimes have any fun in this game. Shrines are no replacement for dungeons, they just aren't that good. I'm happy I got 40 bucks for it after I quit.

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Reading this (and few other) thread makes me think that Mario will sweep the GOTYs this year while few months ago Zelda was a lock. Seen quite a bit backlash toward the game and Mario will still be relatively fresh in the GOTY season.
 

petran79

Banned
Resident Evil 4 is overrated and turned a great survival horror series into a shooter. Thankfully currently playing through 7 in VR and its bringing back the vibes of the original

Only good thing that game did was salvaging Leon. Couldnt stand him in RE2.

TLOU is a very pretty game that uses a lot of creative visual tricks. It was arguably curb stomped by Crysis 3 on PC, released the same year, but TLOU was remarkable for a PS3 title, even if it prerendered a lot of stuff. (I personally consider RE6 more impressive in a certain sense because it doesn't switch to a pre-recorded video every time something "cinematic" happens.) You do have a point, though, about stuff like Beyond: Two Souls being overlooked.

My friend adored TLOU and similar games. Thanks to it he discovered B:TS later on and liked that game too.

Based on his experience, another controversial opinion:

-"Mature games" like TLOU, GOW, Red Dead, Max Payne 3, Hitman, GTA, Phantom Pain, Far Cry etc ruin video games. They raise standards and narrative too high, making any teen or lower rated game averting and appaling. So gamers are stuck forever till the multi-million dollar sequels are produced.
 
Violent games can desensitize people to violence, especially realistic games that have you kill humans. This is easily my most controversial opinion at least on GAF, I don't think I've ever seen anyone agree.

I agree as well. People got too into the Jack Thompson fuckery and swung too far the other way.
 

JJH

Member
Switch is a pretty mediocre system. It's too uncomfortable as a handheld and not very impressive as a console. I bought it to play with my daughter but she would rather play on the NES classic or her iPad.
 

LKSmash

Member
I look forward to GAAS and online future. I love games where I feel like I'm a part of a community, and get excited by a steady stream of content updates.

I feel the same way. Plus I have a ton of friends who I play online with (which seems to be a rarity on this forum) so I've never seen the issue of games skewing to being more online/co-op focused. Like all the people who claim that Rockstar is dead because they're going to keep having an online portion in their games: fucking grow up.
 
Reading this (and few other) thread makes me think that Mario will sweep the GOTYs this year while few months ago Zelda was a lock. Seen quite a bit backlash toward the game and Mario will still be relatively fresh in the GOTY season.

Nah, Breath of the Wild is locked in to win most of the GOTY awards this year - no doubt about it.
 

Dadasch

Member
Gonna go with no on that one as well (for some reason, fans of C:VX are always quick to put down 3 for the sake of making the former look better).

For a reason. It's by far my least favorite of the old ones (Bloodborne is GOAT), unless we are taking Zero into account. That's actually unbelievably bad.
 

Pharaun

Member
Reading this (and few other) thread makes me think that Mario will sweep the GOTYs this year while few months ago Zelda was a lock. Seen quite a bit backlash toward the game and Mario will still be relatively fresh in the GOTY season.

It's just the Zelda cycle kicking in, in a few months there are going to be a ton of rttp/lttp threads about how awesome Skyward Sword is.
 

Korigama

Member
For a reason. It's by far my least favorite of the old ones (Bloodborne is GOAT), unless we are taking Zero into account. That's actually unbelievably bad.
Except there's not a single thing that Code: Veronica does better as an actual game compared to 3. In fact, everything about it is a regression gameplay-wise (minus getting rid of item placement randomization, which I considered a legitimate flaw in 3). One of the only nice things I can be bothered to say about C:VX is that it has good music.

I would say that it's between C:VX and Zero in respect to a race to the bottom, as far as old-school RE is concerned.
 

petran79

Banned
I agree as well. People got too into the Jack Thompson fuckery and swung too far the other way.

As a kid I remember having violent outbursts even while playing Mario. Tension exists in all sorts of video games. When kids are playing, that tension gets multiplied. This has to be separated from visual representation which can also certainly influence.
 
As a kid I remember having violent outbursts even while playing Mario. Tension exists in all sorts of video games. When kids are playing, that tension gets multiplied. This has to be separated from visual representation which can also certainly influence.

I'd describe it as frustration, which can lead to violence (or at least poor temperament) as an adult.

But it's always "I used to play Chainsaw Massacre when I was a kid and I'm totally normal!" when the topic comes up.
 

Budi

Member
As a kid I remember having violent outbursts even while playing Mario. Tension exists in all sorts of video games. When kids are playing, that tension gets multiplied. This has to be separated from visual representation which can also certainly influence.
Sure but this applies to frustration out of videogames too, kids can get frustrated and start a fight because of soccer game they are playing too. Or if they aren't succesful in whatever they are trying to do. And ofcourse it's not just kids.

Which takes me to my controversial opinion, every game should offer an easy mode to prevent violent outbursts!
 
I agree as well. People got too into the Jack Thompson fuckery and swung too far the other way.

Yeah, exactly, Jack Thompson is the worst thing to ever happen to the credibility of violent videogames actually affecting people, much like GamerGate is the worst thing to ever happen to the notion that games journalism sometimes lacks professionalism. It's basically this:

http://lesswrong.com/lw/lw/reversed_stupidity_is_not_intelligence/

"The world's greatest fool may say the Sun is shining, but that doesn't make it dark out."
 
Don't know how controversial this is but I never see it being talked about so I'll mention it.

Other than his design, I think Zidane is the best Final Fantasy protagonist. Also Vivi is such an overrated character. Don't understand why he gets so much love.
 

velociraptor

Junior Member
Jedi Knight II Jedi Outcast is fucking terrible.

The level design is awful. There is no indication where to go. There are no checkpoints. And you get lost 99% of the time. It's so frustrating because the 'path' is completely hidden in most cases!

Each level consists of jumping puzzles and other platforming to get to the next level. The enemy encounters are boring. Just a bunch of spamming grenade dudes and lizards which snipe you from a mile away. Honestly, I feel like I'm playing the same thing over and over again.

The lightsaber combat is also really bad. My hits barely register.

It's a shame because I remember being blown away by Jedi Academy many years ago. I had hoped Jedi Outcast would have impressed me just as much, but no.

It's such a bad fucking game. If it wasn't for YouTube, I would not have been able to progress through the game. I can't believe I did though - I feel like I've wasted 15 hours of my life that I'll never get back.

There is nothing about the game that made me think "I'm so happy to have played this"

Ugh. Awful.
 
The Witcher 3 is awful. The story is boring and the gameplay is just bad. Every quest is the same shit, follow the red trail in detective vision and either kill something or find something. All of the characters are either annoying or assholes, sometimes both. Stupid, pointless crafting system. Why ever use armor and weapons that aren't Witcher gear? It's easy to find and upgrade and it's miles better. It's one of 2 games I regret buying this gen, but of the 2 I actually expected this one to be good.

Not so controversial the combat gets shat on all the time, except in OT threads. If the story doesn't hook you then there's not much else, exploration/walking simulator maybe.
 
Dragon Quest VII is a tedious, monotonous slog. I adored the game for the first fifty hours and then had to force myself to complete the last thirty.

Even the ending was painful as you had to ensure you talked to the right person in several villages before you could continue to the next one.
 
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