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[Bavarian_Sloth]

Another historic failure of the West.

After the annexation of Crimea, we didn't manage to set up a credible(!) deterrent, that could have stopped this madman from taking the whole goddam country.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Another historic failure of the West.

After the annexation of Crimea, we didn't manage to set up a credible(!) deterrent, that could have stopped this madman from taking the whole goddam country.

I hear ya.

But the going rate answers are:

1. Ukraine isnt part of NATO

2. If someone does react and help out, it might make Russia go WW3. So stay out of it and let Russia/Ukraine settle it themselves

 

[HoodWinked]

Getting a sense that the attack is losing steam. Kinda based on nothing tho.

 

[sinnergy]

Nah that's in NATO, I don't think that Putin is that crazy...

Sometimes you have to stand up for what’s right .. this is clearly wrong yet the West is hiding behind rules ..

Ever did this for your self ? Do something that’s right .. even if everyone says don’t ..

That’s how hero’s are made ..

 

[Sosokrates]

This is russian helis raining fire on a Ukraine airport.

The Ukrainian military does have anti air weapons why arent they using them?

Also same goes for tanks, vehicles and ground troops.



Where are Ukraines defenses?

Or are these attacks in the donbas region where ukraine has no military presence?

 

[sinnergy]

I am Georgian.
Immediately got 2008 Russian-Georgian war flashbacks when our family was running away from the battlefield.

Russia can't just leave ex-ussr countries alone can they?

What kind of rotten mind can't sleep at night without building war plans nonstop?

Yes depressing he .. in this day and age.. after all the COVID politics I thought we would be in the clear ..

But clearly there is still the need for war ..

 

[Kraz]

Another historic failure of the West.

After the annexation of Crimea, we didn't manage to set up a credible(!) deterrent, that could have stopped this madman from taking the whole goddam country.

Madman, while an accurate description, implies a lack of rationale.

 

[Bavarian_Sloth]

I hear ya.

But the going rate answers are:

1. Ukraine isnt part of NATO

2. If someone does react and help out, it might make Russia go WW3. So stay out of it and let Russia/Ukraine settle it themselves

That's why we should have raised the stakes beforehand so that there wouldn't be an invasion at all.

Instead, we pursued, more or less, a policy of appeasement a la Chamberlain.

Now it is too late, you are absolutely right.

 

[Deleted member 1159]

Sometimes you have to stand up for what’s right .. this is clearly wrong yet the West is hiding behind rules ..

Ever did this for your self ? Do something that’s right .. even if everyone says don’t ..

That’s how hero’s are made ..

There won’t be any heroes left if there’s a nuclear war, and old tiny dick Putin just threatened that if the rest of the west intervenes.

 

[miles118]

Very interesting article about the company in Germany who helped build the Nord Stream 2 pipeline :

Insight: How a German state helped Moscow push a pipeline, weakening Ukraine

In the north German state of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, where former Chancellor Angela Merkel had her constituency, ties to Russia run deep – so deep, in fact, its leaders have defended a Kremlin project that the United States says helped cripple Ukraine.

www.reuters.com

 

[GladiusFrog]

Agenda Free TV has on-going real time coverage. I highly recommend.

 

[sinnergy]

There won’t be any heroes left if there’s a nuclear war, and old tiny dick Putin just threatened that if the rest of the west intervenes.

Nuclear war .. this is not the 50s.. that shit can’t even take of .. malware .. air defense .. lasers , radar jamming .

 

[Stitch]

 

[Forsete]

Where are Ukraines defenses?

Guerilla tactics maybe? No point in strutting around in tanks when Russia has air superiority.

 

[miles118]

Very interesting article about the company in Germany who help build the Nord Stream 2 pipeline :

Insight: How a German state helped Moscow push a pipeline, weakening Ukraine

In the north German state of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, where former Chancellor Angela Merkel had her constituency, ties to Russia run deep – so deep, in fact, its leaders have defended a Kremlin project that the United States says helped cripple Ukraine.

www.reuters.com

The german governement is not dumb like people think they are. They are just corrupt with Russian's money. They do not care what the world think of them.

 

[prinz_valium]

Nuclear war .. this is not the 50s.. that shit can’t even take of .. malware .. air defense .. lasers , radar jamming .

If you shoot all from different strategic locations and vehicles, some will make it

But boy that's going to be bad.
US will drop some via steahlt bombers in that case.
Don't think anyone is that insane letting it come to that point

 

[Vestal]

Hopefully no one is an idiot and targets the Containment shield..

 

[Deleted member 1159]

Nuclear war .. this is not the 50s.. that shit can’t even take of .. malware .. air defense .. lasers , radar jamming .

Do you really think those countermeasures have nullified our nuclear arsenals?

 

[Havoc2049]

CNN just reported that Russian Paratroopers are in control of the airport outside of Kyiv.

 

[M1chl]

This is russian helis raining fire on a Ukraine airport.

The Ukrainian military does have anti air weapons why arent they using them?

Also same goes for tanks, vehicles and ground troops.



Where are Ukraines defenses?

Or are these attacks in the donbas region where ukraine has no military presence?

 

[AJUMP23]

Do you really think those countermeasures have nullified our nuclear arsenals?

There are not enough countermeasures in the field to stop a full out nuclear attack. From any country toward another country.

 

[MikeM]

Nah that's in NATO, I don't think that Putin is that crazy...

Putin wants the low hanging fruit (Ukraine).

If you shoot all from different strategic locations and vehicles, some will make it

But boy that's going to be bad.
US will drop some via steahlt bombers in that case.
Don't think anyone is that insane letting it come to that point

Low altitude submarine launched nuclear missiles more likely. Unless Putin crosses the red line and starts to hit NATO states, this won’t happen.

 

[sinnergy]

Do you really think those countermeasures have nullified our nuclear arsenals?

Yes, and than there is technology we even don’t know about .. because that’s how it works .. they work years on this warfare stuff .

 

[Blackage]

What's the strategic value of taking Chernobyl and the plant? I thought the land was poison and the factory was a tomb?

 

[jufonuk]

What's the strategic value of taking Chernobyl and the plant? I thought the land was poison and the factory was a tomb?

Maybe putin thinks he make super soldiers?

 

[miles118]

 

[dem]

West has become cowardly. Putin just spitting in everyone’s face.

No one wants war.. but there are consequences to letting this shit happen.

 

[Sybrix]

What's the strategic value of taking Chernobyl and the plant? I thought the land was poison and the factory was a tomb?

It has symbolic influence, the whole world knows what Chernobyl is.

It's also on a direct route to Kyiv.

 

[Vestal]

West has become cowardly. Putin just spitting in everyone’s face.

No one wants war.. but there are consequences to letting this shit happen.

Outside of all out war, what exactly do you think the West could do outside of sanctions?

 

[Sosokrates]

No doubt, Im just surprised there been so little reaction from Ukraine military. The footage thats available shows russia driving in tanks like it a trip to the shops.

I would of thought there would be walls, guard towers, tanks, men etc guarding there boarders, but theres nothing in the footage shown.

 

[FatallyYours]

What's the strategic value of taking Chernobyl and the plant? I thought the land was poison and the factory was a tomb?

To my knowledge, chernobyl is more than just the one reactor that blew up. There were multiple, and I'm pretty sure some still work, so provide power. Take them over, deny power. Same reason they've taken the hydro electric power station elsewhere

 

[chromhound]

Taiwan is next sadly... But they have a chance to win

 

[FatallyYours]

As much as I'm sure the graphic is correct in terms of overall numbers, in reality I assume its much different.
How many of the tanks, planes and helicopters are modern, working, fueled, armed, manned and readily supplied

 

[Toons]

My heart is with the people of Ukraine. A lot of folks are losing their minds over this but im staying rational. No Putin is not going to attack a NATO country. Theres little we can do right now without risking a very costly conflict. Best we can do is see how this plays out. Russia is going to have a very hard time economically after this.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

I'm saddened beyond words that this is happening and what it means for Taiwan.

Sadly, nothing will be done - Putin will annex Ukraine and that will be it.

 

[CGiRanger]

Taiwan is next sadly... But they have a chance to win

 

[Gp1]

 

[Forsete]

Aeroflot just got banned from UK airspace.

Britain is freezing the UK assets of Russian titans in banking and arms manufacturing, sanctioning five more oligarchs and banning Aeroflot from its airspace, Prime Minister Boris Johnson says.

UK to ban Russia’s Aeroflot, sanction banks, businesses, oligarchs

* * *

www.timesofisrael.com

Hopefully they will be banned in the EU as well.

 

[SentientStone]

I predict not much reaction aside from sanctions, Russia shall now represent the straight men that the rightists look up to giving the West mixed feelings cause... Putin is supposed to be the bad guy.

Either this or ... lead up to WW3 apocalypse as predicted by the scrolls.

 

[CGiRanger]

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

The mad lad.

 

[KingGhidorah]

Putin's goons cracking down on anti-war protest in St. Petersburg

 

[Catphish]

Hardcore

 

[Forsete]

Fake news my bro.

That is Ukraina ambassador to Japan, not the other way around.

 

[chromhound]

my boy is dripping sheeshh

 

[RaduN]

Sometimes you have to stand up for what’s right .. this is clearly wrong yet the West is hiding behind rules ..

Ever did this for your self ? Do something that’s right .. even if everyone says don’t ..

That’s how hero’s are made ..

'The hero prevailing is a cliche that only happends in your american movies"

I live in Romania. I honestly expect the worst. Putin is every bit the madman we feared it was.

 

[poppabk]

No doubt, Im just surprised there been so little reaction from Ukraine military. The footage thats available shows russia driving in tanks like it a trip to the shops.

I would of thought there would be walls, guard towers, tanks, men etc guarding there boarders, but theres nothing in the footage shown.

There is no point in fighting a battle you are guaranteed to lose, especially on your own soil.

 

[Klik]

Do we have anyone here from russia?

Would be glad to hear your opinion on this

I messaged my russian friend. When i ask him about his view on this he said(i just copied):

Probably, i won't surprise you if I speak loud about my support of this operation. Nazis and fascist must be perished in Ukraine. We cannot tolerate this hostile regime along our borders.
Our forces strike against ukro-nazi military objects and forces. We don't strike civilians coz they're same russians as us.
This country will be de-nazified, de-militarized and de-occupied from NATO assholes.
This country will be changed for the sake of Russia's national security.
To say again: we don't wage war against ukrainian citizen.
I believe, most of them will become Russians soon...as well ;-)

Ukraine supposed to be neutral, non-nuclear country. But their crazy leaders were corrupted by the USA and some European governments. They were overthrown by nazis and fascists in 2014, then became hostile and dangerous

 

[dem]

Outside of all out war, what exactly do you think the West could do outside of sanctions?

When the Ukraine disarmed it became the wests responsibility to protect them.

Airstrikes should have been raining down yesterday.

 

[chromhound]

I messaged my russian friend. When i ask him about his view on this he said(i just copied):

Probably, i won't surprise you if I speak loud about my support of this operation. Nazis and fascist must be perished in Ukraine. We cannot tolerate this hostile regime along our borders.
Our forces strike against ukro-nazi military objects and forces. We don't strike civilians coz they're same russians as us.
This country will be de-nazified, de-militarized and de-occupied from NATO assholes.
This country will be changed for the sake of Russia's national security.
To say again: we don't wage war against ukrainian citizen.
I believe, most of them will become Russians soon...as well ;-)

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