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Santa Monica issuing evacuation order

I also love when business owners replace governments. What is the word I am looking for....

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Cyberpunkd

Member
BTW I was astonished to find out that there are currently 400 inmates working as firefighters to put out the flames in LA.

On the top end of that wage scale they will earn just above $300 per month while putting their lives in danger every moment!
 

Mr Reasonable

Completely Unreasonable
Because she's an idiot who should've never even been on the ballot in the first place. But it's Los Angeles so...

Irrespective of that, the people who organised her appearance and told her what she was doing should have worked out what was going to happen and planned appropriately. Having her not be able to answer questions is bad, but it's also not helpful to anyone, so it seems ridiculous to plan to take questions.
 
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ManaByte

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Irrespective of that, the people who organised her appearance and told her what she was doing should have worked out what was going to happen and planned appropriately. Having her not be able to answer questions is bad, but it's also not helpful to anyone, so it seems ridiculous to plan to take questions.

Idiot hires idiot. Welcome to California.
 

violence

Member
I wonder if people are lighting new fires to try and stay warm in the 60° weather. This might’ve been what started at all.
 

kruis

Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
I wonder if people are lighting new fires to try and stay warm in the 60° weather. This might’ve been what started at all.






 

diffusionx

Gold Member
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Maybe this situation will wake people up as to the real nature of the homeless population, about 10 years too late.
 

ManaByte

Member


The Coastal Commission quickly posted a panicked PR announcement on their website claiming that existing structures won't require the years-long costal building permit to rebuild

Of course that's not the only red tape people are going to have to get over there and waiving that one permit doesn't wave the other environmental problems they're going to run into in Current Year CA. The Twitter post is right, the people who lost their homes aren't going to be able to rebuild there for years.
 

ManaByte

Member
There was once a time people used to brag about living in California.

Again, I lived there for 45 years and didn't want to leave. But Newsom has destroyed the state. It's impossible to live there now. You can't own a home there. My brother-in-law has a house with similar square footage as mine in TN. He pays about $1,000 a month in an electric bill. I've never paid more than $200, and that was during a deep freeze. Most months I only pay $100-140, only going higher in the winter. The month after I escaped CA they also QUADRUPLED gas bills. A co-worker of mine got out the month after I did and his gas bill went from $40 a month to over $400. And you don't even want to know what gas prices for your car are thanks to how many taxes they slap on that at the pump. Car registrations are also all fucked up there. You'd be lucky to get away with $200-300 a year for your tag, I now just pay $60.

I could always transfer back there, and hell there's an opportunity for me to later this year. But because of the cost of living there now, it's not worth it.
 
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jason10mm

Gold Member
Well, I suspect the writer of that Politico article knows they are lying. The point is to get it out there so people can run cover for this retard.
Thats how social media works now. Put out 20 completely bullshit 'articles' to the sheep can have their entire search page filled with seemingly 'legit' sources to feed their confirmation bias. I can see this happening to my feeds all the time. There is no concept of "objective, balanced, and factual" reporting anymore.
 

Hookshot

Member
When thousands of buildings go away like this, how on earth do you start to rebuild? There won't be enough workers or materials to do them all at once, so some (poor) people are going to be homeless for years.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
Bloody hell. She can barely even speak English.
I think we can focus on her job performance before going after her accent. That type of 'attack' just opens you up to a "you're racist" response and dismissal. IMHO the conversation would be MUCH better if folks stayed on performance topics ONLY and let the DEI stuff go, especially when we have AMPLE evidence of systemic performance failures across the board. Keep it clean and professional so there is no easy retaliatory cover fire to distract from the real issues.

A expose on the hiring process for these high level positions would be interesting. I'm not sure what qualifications/emphasis you would even choose for such a position. Business knowledge, managerial experience, engineering?
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
When thousands of buildings go away like this, how on earth do you start to rebuild? There won't be enough workers or materials to do them all at once, so some (poor) people are going to be homeless for years.
The real issue is do they rebuild to a higher fire-resistant standard, or do they put up even WORSE stuff? Typically this type of "reset to zero" event is an opportunity to radically rethink the plan, especially since we KNOW the fire risk isn't going away.
 

DragoonKain

Neighbours from Hell
Prediction: you’re gonna hear comedians making this joke in their new acts

“My condolences to everyone who lost their homes or loved ones in the LA wildfires, it’s devastating. And even worse you had home insurers dropping tons of people from their coverage totally screwing them over. The most devastated of all is Luigi Mangione who’s sitting there in prison like FUCK I targeted the wrong insurance CEO.”
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
Prediction: you’re gonna hear comedians making this joke in their new acts

“My condolences to everyone who lost their homes or loved ones in the LA wildfires, it’s devastating. And even worse you had home insurers dropping tons of people from their coverage totally screwing them over. The most devastated of all is Luigi Mangione who’s sitting there in prison like FUCK I targeted the wrong insurance CEO.”
Thats an interesting one. Is it the fault of insurance companies to be able to provide coverage, the fault of the homeowner for living in a tinderbox, or the fault of the gov for not making it LESS of a tinderbox so the insurance companies can actually provide coverage? It's like flood insurance. If I'm in a big flood plain OF COURSE no company will or even should, insure me, at least not without an exorbitant rate. Because I'm in a FLOOD PLAIN. If I'm in a "fire plain" like most of this part of California, where lies the fault? I'd say its with the voters who elected folks who didn't do shit to fix the problem....for years and years and years, and years!

We are gonna see a lot of sympathy pleas from the MSM to get the feds to write a massive check and cover this whole thing so the California politicians can keep on grifting and nothing will change. Will it work? Or will Cali FINALLY figure their shit out and put consequences on their DECADES of poor leadership and management?
 

paolo11

Member
Thank you, bro... I am seriously thinking of donating my time to help, but I need to look into what I can do. I have time in the morning, surely I can figure out something. 5am till 2pm... I am sure my boss wouldn't mind.
You rock. Stay safe. It’s a test of faith for us
 

LordCBH

Member
The real issue is do they rebuild to a higher fire-resistant standard, or do they put up even WORSE stuff? Typically this type of "reset to zero" event is an opportunity to radically rethink the plan, especially since we KNOW the fire risk isn't going away.

How are the building codes in Cali right now? I know where I live we get tornadoes, and a lot of even new homes are not meeting code yet still getting the pass.
 

Dural

Member
Thats an interesting one. Is it the fault of insurance companies to be able to provide coverage, the fault of the homeowner for living in a tinderbox, or the fault of the gov for not making it LESS of a tinderbox so the insurance companies can actually provide coverage? It's like flood insurance. If I'm in a big flood plain OF COURSE no company will or even should, insure me, at least not without an exorbitant rate. Because I'm in a FLOOD PLAIN. If I'm in a "fire plain" like most of this part of California, where lies the fault? I'd say its with the voters who elected folks who didn't do shit to fix the problem....for years and years and years, and years!

We are gonna see a lot of sympathy pleas from the MSM to get the feds to write a massive check and cover this whole thing so the California politicians can keep on grifting and nothing will change. Will it work? Or will Cali FINALLY figure their shit out and put consequences on their DECADES of poor leadership and management?



The insurance companies weren't allowed to increase rates on properties they deemed at risk due to California bureaucracy so they just cancelled the insurance.

This NBC video shows people running out of water trying to save their homes.



Effspot has a couple crazy videos from the last couple days, the Pacific palisades one from Tuesday was nuts. There was no police or fire in the area at all.

 
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Ownage

Member
Prediction: you’re gonna hear comedians making this joke in their new acts

“My condolences to everyone who lost their homes or loved ones in the LA wildfires, it’s devastating. And even worse you had home insurers dropping tons of people from their coverage totally screwing them over. The most devastated of all is Luigi Mangione who’s sitting there in prison like FUCK I targeted the wrong insurance CEO.”
Cue the Mario or Bowser jokes.
 
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DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Prediction: you’re gonna hear comedians making this joke in their new acts

“My condolences to everyone who lost their homes or loved ones in the LA wildfires, it’s devastating. And even worse you had home insurers dropping tons of people from their coverage totally screwing them over. The most devastated of all is Luigi Mangione who’s sitting there in prison like FUCK I targeted the wrong insurance CEO.”
I can see late night "comedians" totally missing the forest through the trees in that the bureaucracy and red tape regulations everywhere by their selected officials made it so it would bankrupt insurance agencies if they were forced to cover but never raise rates seeing a ripe for wild fire conditions those very officials allowed to permeate from their shit decisions and taxpayer fleecing.

The real frustrating part, is a lot of these movie stars get federal subsidized insurance for their homes, so the taxpayer, YES THE TAXPAYER will cover their mansions, something the common peasant folk won't have access to.
 
Thats an interesting one. Is it the fault of insurance companies to be able to provide coverage, the fault of the homeowner for living in a tinderbox, or the fault of the gov for not making it LESS of a tinderbox so the insurance companies can actually provide coverage? It's like flood insurance. If I'm in a big flood plain OF COURSE no company will or even should, insure me, at least not without an exorbitant rate. Because I'm in a FLOOD PLAIN. If I'm in a "fire plain" like most of this part of California, where lies the fault? I'd say its with the voters who elected folks who didn't do shit to fix the problem....for years and years and years, and years!

I think the case that one can make is that by at least mitigating the issue by actually removing the brush and proper forestation cleanup efforts. Of course it doesn't remove the danger but it could bring the risk down enough to get insurancers to the table in managing and negotiating premiums. But that of course needs the government's help in actually doing the job right.
 

diffusionx

Gold Member
Thats an interesting one. Is it the fault of insurance companies to be able to provide coverage, the fault of the homeowner for living in a tinderbox, or the fault of the gov for not making it LESS of a tinderbox so the insurance companies can actually provide coverage? It's like flood insurance. If I'm in a big flood plain OF COURSE no company will or even should, insure me, at least not without an exorbitant rate. Because I'm in a FLOOD PLAIN. If I'm in a "fire plain" like most of this part of California, where lies the fault? I'd say its with the voters who elected folks who didn't do shit to fix the problem....for years and years and years, and years!

We are gonna see a lot of sympathy pleas from the MSM to get the feds to write a massive check and cover this whole thing so the California politicians can keep on grifting and nothing will change. Will it work? Or will Cali FINALLY figure their shit out and put consequences on their DECADES of poor leadership and management?
Anything can be insured. Look up Lloyd's of London. But it has a price. The point is the California Insurance Department didn't let the companies price the insurance properly. And when I say that I mean it literally. Companies have to go to the government to get their rates approved - true of all 50 states. Every insurance rate you pay is approved by a state regulator.

There are some other issues with the way these policies were priced in the states and I'm not an expert on it, but that is the basic reason. So after a while you just cannot take on these risks without adequate compensation and you decide it's better to leave.
 
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DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Anything can be insured. Look up Lloyd's of London. But it has a price. The point is the California Insurance Department didn't let the companies price the insurance properly. And when I say that I mean it literally. Companies have to go to the government to get their rates approved - true of all 50 states. Every insurance rate you pay is approved by a state regulator.

There are some other issues with the way these policies were priced in the states and I'm not an expert on it, but that is the basic reason. So after a while you just cannot take on these risks without adequate compensation and you decide it's better to leave.
This wildfire would have bankrupted a lot of insurance companies, and people would be assed out with not only not getting anything on their returns, but now without insurance. Thus, good luck getting a mortgage without HOIs since companies will refuse to insure the area without compensation for such high risks due to regulations and policies that made it a ripe tinder box.

This is all by design, you see. Now the municipals and their buddy bureaucrats will be sucking up cheap land to build on. Just in time for the 2028 Olympics.
 
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