diffusionx
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Companies contract with reinsurance companies to manage the high end of the catastrophic risk.
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Santa Monica issuing evacuation order
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Correct. And when the risk outweighs that, policies are then dropped.
Tams
Member
Sorry, but the language of the US is English and she is in a senior position of authority.
She doesn't need to be a good public speaker, but being coherent and fluent shouldn't even need to be stated as a required qualification.
And we can't go around worrying about if someone is going to call us 'racist' for speaking the truth. Do that and they will just call you 'racist' whenever they don't get their way.
Pegasus Actual
Gold Member
San Diego's mayor surely inspires confidence were there to be a similar fire:
I'm a little scared to look up the leadership of the fire department.
I will say this though, no weird DEI riding around on the local fire engines. All dudes that are all like 6'4" and built like NFL players.
I'm a little scared to look up the leadership of the fire department.
I will say this though, no weird DEI riding around on the local fire engines. All dudes that are all like 6'4" and built like NFL players.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
California's rain bounty slips into the ocean and drought-shocked Central Valley farmers want an explanation
95 percent of the water that collected in the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta has been flushed out to sea, leaving frustrated farmers with lots of questions.
www.turnto23.com
Wheeljack539
Member
Unfortunately now we get to see which vultures swoop in to buy the land for "new development".
Jesus Christ, I feel for that man. Having your life’s work destroyed in mere moments. I truly hope he and his wife find passion again and don’t succumb to despair.
Bunch of goons, and completely in line with expectations. A local developer tried to do that on my dead end street, trying to shift one of the plots from R1 to an R5 that is sandwiched in between two R1 plots so he could shove 16 duplex units into it. For further context, the road isn’t even properly paved, it’s chip and tar and is barely wide enough to allow two standard size sedans to pass each other. I hired an attorney and led a campaign with my local community to shut that shit down and won… for now. But it was obvious that special interests were involved with some council members who should have recused themselves given their personal stakes and business dealings. When low level politics in the middle of nowhere has corruption with regard to zoning laws, you know high level shit with an unmitigated turd like Newsom is full of crooks.
SF Kosmo
Banned
Gross to see how many people just want to use this for some kind of political schadenfreude.
Climate catastrophes are going to be the rule going forward, not the exception. It's important to understand that this is a man-made problem that is the inevitable result of climate change and that it is going to escalate. We may not be able to continue to live in all of the same places we have. Just like the end of the ice age necessitated a lot of migration, I think it's time to be realistic about changing our infrastructure where we can and resettling when we can't.
Climate catastrophes are going to be the rule going forward, not the exception. It's important to understand that this is a man-made problem that is the inevitable result of climate change and that it is going to escalate. We may not be able to continue to live in all of the same places we have. Just like the end of the ice age necessitated a lot of migration, I think it's time to be realistic about changing our infrastructure where we can and resettling when we can't.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
They've been wanting more of their "smart cities" for some time now.
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Wheeljack539
Member
I've heard that term before, most recently from the fire in Hawaii the other year ago but never got an explanation. What is that?
Oh man, please please PLEASE let there be a paper trail somewhere. I might have to start doing some more digging, I am a man with way too much free time who loves watching inept, cosplaying “leaders” finally get their just desserts.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Smart Cities 2024
There is also a rabbit hole you can go down, but that is on you to search it out.
It's funny reading comments about using salt water to fight the fire that it would "ruin the land!"....ugh, are closely packed housing developments and commercial strips really an issue for "salting the land"? Does concrete really give a fuck? This is an end game type of fire running through densely occupied human areas, not farmland or forests, the only 'land' at risk would be someones flower garden...
ANYPLACE you drain out the water from in order to sustain dense urban construction, then allow areas of vegetation growth to get rampant and unculled, then add dodgy powerlines and hobo camps with free burning is gonna have issues like this. It has little to do with the climate and everything to do with piss poor HUMAN management of the area.
Forest fires are a natural process and in many areas are a NECESSARY process to burn out dead trees and underbrush but allow the larger trees to survive and continue to grow. It's when humans stop the small fires, over and over, until there is a critical mass of dead/dry brush that CAN'T be stopped that leads to these issues.
Are they cutting down and removing all the trees and brush in threatened areas? Are there proper firebreaks? Where did the marshy areas all go? How much unnecessary plant growth is sustained by residential watering that now is fuel for the blaze?
LA needs a serious wake-up call about getting serious about fire prevention, to include proper water storage, plant management, and building construction. They need to get serious about their power lines and their homeless camps. This whole thing is largely a HUMAN fuck-up, not some act of god due to poor rainfall.
Mayor Bass really was trying to further gut fire protection funding. There’s no escape, she is done.
Once again, kudos to the fire chief Kristin Crowley and the rest of her peers for pushing back. Folks keep giving her shit for being a “DEI hire” which is likely true, but one cannot deny that she has done her job correctly. Her pushback against the mayor is documented and I can only imagine the fury she’s concealing behind the need to project professionalism.
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Wheeljack539
Member
Smart Cities 2024
worldpopulationreview.com
There is also a rabbit hole you can go down, but that is on you to search it out.
There always is one. One time I would have dismissed it as nonsense but nowadays...
Also:
ChuckeRearmed
Gold Member
Hard to tell. California is too blue to make her accountable for anything.
SF Kosmo
Banned
Obviously there are things that can and should be done to mitigate (and as this problem worsens we need to do a whole lot more) but it's fucking stupid to say it has little to do with climate change. That's just an indefensible position based on nothing.
These fires have always happened, but they are growing larger and more frequent and harder to combat due to climate change. Hurricanes have always happened, but they are growing larger and more frequent due to climate change. These things will continue to happen and get worse at an accelerating rate because of climate change.
We can act like idiots about it or we can figure out what we need to survive climate change.
Climate change isn't an "act of God," either. But yes we need to start assuming these things are going to happen and figuring out what to do about them.
FunkMiller
Member
Correct. Climate change deniers will conveniently forget how very little rainfall the area has had for a very long time now. The worst in its history. Caused by altering rainfall patterns that create drought conditions.
…but the government shoulders a massive degree of the blame. They should have planned to deal with the dryness of the area better.
No one engaged in this ridiculous and pointless culture war can score any points from the destruction from so many people’s lives - not that this will stop them trying.
It’s a combination of the two things, and it’s wrong to suggest otherwise.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Good on her! More need to speak up against the what thee politicians and bureaucrats have done to that city and state.
diffusionx
Gold Member
its a man made problem caused by junkie hobos starting fires
LA has had significantly above average rainfall the past two years
Total Seasonal Rainfall 1877-Present for Downtown Los Angeles, California
Almanac facts, information and trivia about Los Angeles County, its people, cities and communities.
www.laalmanac.com
These sorts of claims are totally unfalsifiable and essentially every single deviant weather event or the lack of deviant weather events is blamed on “climate change”
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
And they dumped that water right out into the ocean, not only hurting that area, but farmers alike.its a man made problem caused by junkie hobos starting fires
LA has had significantly above average rainfall the past two years
Total Seasonal Rainfall 1877-Present for Downtown Los Angeles, California
Almanac facts, information and trivia about Los Angeles County, its people, cities and communities.
These sorts of claims are totally unfalsifiable and essentially every single deviant weather event or the lack of deviant weather events is blamed on “climate change”
They were also given tens of millions of US taxpayer money to build water storage tanks for the record rainfalls and infrastructure for these issues, and never did. WHERE IS THAT MONEY?
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
ChuckeRearmed
Gold Member
Isn't she complicit with all of it? I think she was the one talking about hiring more DEI
FunkMiller
Member
its a man made problem caused by junkie hobos starting fires
LA has had significantly above average rainfall the past two years
Total Seasonal Rainfall 1877-Present for Downtown Los Angeles, California
Almanac facts, information and trivia about Los Angeles County, its people, cities and communities.
These sorts of claims are totally unfalsifiable and essentially every single deviant weather event or the lack of deviant weather events is blamed on “climate change”
That link literally states that downtown LA has only had a fifth of an inch of rain since July. So… thanks for backing up my point, I guess?
It’s a tinderbox. While Northern California gets drenched. The reverse happened the season before. All fucked up. Due to climate change.
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ManaByte
Member
She is most certainly not complicit. She did her job honorably and there is a 3-year paper trail of her fighting to get resources against a city administration that wasn’t listening. There are political games being played and because she happens to be a lesbian, folks have lumped her into the current anti-woke DEI train. She doesn’t deserve that ire.
Mayor Bass on the other hand? Absolutely deserves to see jail time for outright negligence. She cut fire protection funding while maintaining the cultural arts funding. Unacceptable.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Totally normal and not suspicious at all.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
There’s no source for the 5 phones + UN debit card. It doesn’t mention that in the linked article.
HoodWinked
Member
pretty neat. was trying to find this video where these two guys were driving around California putting out embers and they were finding people lighting fires deliberately.
ManaByte
Member
The guy owns a company that tracks cellphones and locations, thus the “GPS” in his post.
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
I saw a tweet a few days ago that said "I promise the wildfires were not caused by that one thing you hate" and I agree with that 100%. I think everyone is using it(like they use everything) to dunk on their opponents and those they hate and blame them for it.
HOWEVER... California seems to have so much dysfunction as a state. Nothing there ever operates smoothly. I hear people complaining at how that state never gets anything done. Everything is tied up in mounds of red tape. I remember Bill Maher just wanted to get a solar panel installed on the roof of his shed and it took like 5 years to get all the approvals to get it done and that was with him complaining on national TV about it. There's homeless people and drug use everywhere when they spend billions of dollars to curb homelessness. They are never prepared for wildfires. Theft and snatch and grabs out there are out of control. Do I think Gavin Newsom is the sole and personal cause of everything has gone wrong? No, I think it's incompetence and other things all over the place. But he is the governor. And there's something to be said about leadership and being held responsible when something you lead falls apart. Just like a CEO of a company does when they have some awful scandal. Just like a coach or general manager of a sport team does when they start losing. That state needs a change of leadership in the worst way. There's never any accountability, nothing ever gets done. I hope they finally put someone in office out there who can really turn things around and get that state running efficiently and smoothly again. It's a beautiful state and the people deserve it.
HOWEVER... California seems to have so much dysfunction as a state. Nothing there ever operates smoothly. I hear people complaining at how that state never gets anything done. Everything is tied up in mounds of red tape. I remember Bill Maher just wanted to get a solar panel installed on the roof of his shed and it took like 5 years to get all the approvals to get it done and that was with him complaining on national TV about it. There's homeless people and drug use everywhere when they spend billions of dollars to curb homelessness. They are never prepared for wildfires. Theft and snatch and grabs out there are out of control. Do I think Gavin Newsom is the sole and personal cause of everything has gone wrong? No, I think it's incompetence and other things all over the place. But he is the governor. And there's something to be said about leadership and being held responsible when something you lead falls apart. Just like a CEO of a company does when they have some awful scandal. Just like a coach or general manager of a sport team does when they start losing. That state needs a change of leadership in the worst way. There's never any accountability, nothing ever gets done. I hope they finally put someone in office out there who can really turn things around and get that state running efficiently and smoothly again. It's a beautiful state and the people deserve it.
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DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Ok? How does he know how many phones (and a UN Debit card?) this guy has based on seeing a video of him getting arrested?
ManaByte
Member
UN Debit card just means he’s someone who was encountered at the border. That’s how the migrant payments are dispersed.
I still think this is arson and a cyber attack to undermine California. If this is an act of terrorism, the individuals taking pleasure in making this political plays right into the hands of our enemies.
The level of social engineering going on in this thread alone is incredibly alarming.
The level of social engineering going on in this thread alone is incredibly alarming.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Still doesn’t make any sense how Tony Seruga would have all these details about some random homeless dude who got arrested yesterday. Half the replies to that tweet are asking for sources about the phones + debit card. Sounds like bullshit to me
FunkMiller
Member
Hey, hey… don’t come in here with your nuance and common sense!
This is either DEI or climate change. It must be one or the other, because otherwise people can’t score pointless political points off it.
There’s absolutely ZERO possibility of it being a hideous combination of the two things, because that would imply neither side is right, and we really should all grow the fuck up and start treating things seriously like adults, who look at facts over feelings.
Jinzo Prime
Member
She's trying to avoid losing her job or getting sued. But I guarantee the lawsuits are coming and discovery is going to be quite illuminating.
Unknown Soldier
Member
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Most have been saying it’s a combination of things.Hey, hey… don’t come in here with your nuance and common sense!
This is either DEI or climate change. It must be one or the other, because otherwise people can’t score pointless political points off it.
There’s absolutely ZERO possibility of it being a hideous combination of the two things, because that would imply neither side is right, and we really should all grow the fuck up and start treating things seriously like adults, who look at facts over feelings.
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JayK47
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My barber is from LA, California. He left a long while ago and is disgusted to see what has become of it. He doesn't even want to travel there anymore. He went off today about the wild fires and the people in charge. This is pretty much a man made catastrophe. 100% preventable. It took years of poor decisions to get here. It was inevitable. The amount of pollution caused by these fires is far more than anything being caused by driving gas powered cars. So much hypocrisy from the same people who demand I ride a bike and eat bugs are the same people making these states and countries immense fire hazards that damage the air we breath and cause insane amounts of damage and loss of life. I believe it to be intentional. They literally want to watch the world burn.