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Sega Genesis/MegaDrive Appreciation Thread: Alien Storm > Golden Axe
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Great choice with summer coming up. Dat planet undertow/freon bgm.
I've been meaning to do so. I bought this SCART to YUV converter from Amazon
Then I bought the Euro SCART cable from this person. Note: She seems to be periodically out of stock now and then.
Unfortunately, the converter box doesn't send out audio, but the Genesis 1 has the benefit of a front audio jack. I'll still have to find a different audio solution for my other system. I can either buy a splitter or mod the converter. I can't imagine the latter option being very difficult...
I'd also like to suggest that SCART/Component info and solutions be added to the OP. It seems to be a rather large topic in many of these retro threads, but the info is just scattered about and it's never clear exactly who is using what console from what region with which cable...
IrishNinja
Member
Sure thing; someone draw me up something concise/concrete and i'll happily toss it in there. Bocodragon was talking about an upscaler thread, we could really use a SCART RGB one (or section) as well!
megashock5
Member
I'm all for some info on how to get better picture quality being located in one easy to read piece. I've been trying to follow the discussion but it's tough to keep up.
We are quickly approaching a time when it will be hard to get the needed old tube TVs to play these old consoles. The more educated we can be about how to hook them up to more modern equipment the better.
We are quickly approaching a time when it will be hard to get the needed old tube TVs to play these old consoles. The more educated we can be about how to hook them up to more modern equipment the better.
Well, I'm far from being an expert, but what I've come to know is that which SCART cable you use depends on what your receiving device will accept. Any console itself from any region seems to be okay about any cable you plug in (Euro SCART or JP-21). The important detail is what you are plugging into. If you get that part wrong... then you can really mess up your electronics.
This website I recently found goes into a lot of detail about that and a whole lot more.
It seems to be that certain scalers like the XRGB like to have JP-21 plugged into them while YUV trans-coders are good with Euro SCART.
This website I recently found goes into a lot of detail about that and a whole lot more.
It seems to be that certain scalers like the XRGB like to have JP-21 plugged into them while YUV trans-coders are good with Euro SCART.
Ganondorfo
Junior Member
Has Sega released an epic single player phantasy star game since IV?
sixteen-bit
Member
I haven't played it but I recall Phantasy Star 0 having a traditional story mode.
Shadow Hog
Member
Exodus is out now, btw. Just bear in mind that like BSNES/Higan, it kinda requires a beefy computer to play.
Ganondorfo
Junior Member
Any shining force game in the style of 1-3 for the ps2 gen and this gen?
Phantasy Star Universe also had a single player mode, and I think the expansion added more single player stuff too (though you had to be online on the 360 to play it).
dr. apocalipsis
Banned
Spritesmind is your forum.
Exodus is too much for my Q9450 at stock, around 45~55 fps, taking 90% CPU time and almost maxing 4 threads. Will try later OC'ed. Higher clock Sandys and Ivys should do the job. Forget about any AMD.
Amazing sound emulation for once.
mingoguaya
Member
He's one of the nicest persons you'll ever meet, and I'm sure that he lurks here from time to time. He's a dad and a college professor, so I guess he really has his hands full all the time (and the rest of the time he dedicates to finishing up classic 8-bit games!).
Genesis Knight
Member
I was a Sega-16 staff writer and moderator for four or five years through high school. Ken is a great guy. I don't post like I used to and I haven't written anything in a while, but the site is still first in my heart for all things Sega.
IrishNinja
Member
whoah, really? that's awesome man! i've been digging through their site since i came across some interviews last year, which i'dve gotten into it sooner. after getting my ZAMN review put up on SegaBits i was debating doing more retro reviews, thought it'd be fun to see what games they were lacking over there sometime too
Genesis Knight
Member
Not too many fun titles left, lol:
http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showth...ewed-games-as-of-03-09-2012-(work-in-progress)
Shadow Hog
Member
I do disagree with some of their reviews, though. I actually like Asterix and the Great Rescue and Goofy's Hysterical History Tour, despite their poor ratings on Sega-16.
Genesis Knight
Member
Many of the reviews are fan submissions, so you get some wacky opinions. I don't take it too seriously. I mean this is Genesis. Most of us know, have played, and have an opinion about every single game ever released for it. Don't need a review for anything other than starting the conversation! But the articles and interviews are stellar and the forums are fun. ;-)
Midnight Believer
Member
DRIVE for the SEGA MASTER SYSTEM/GENESIS Credited to: gundersonmunderson
-Off topic, but some may apreciate this chip tune made on
not really for the sega genesis. just for fun.
9-bit colour, divvied up into 4 palettes of 15+alpha colours each, just like momma used to make. the song was made with an emulator for the Yamaha YM2612, the chip used to create the sound in the sega genesis.
chiptune, graphics, animation and whatever made by me.
the original song is "A Real Hero" by College and Electric Youth, and the movie Drive is copyright whoever made the original movie
=Listen Here= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwphxegBpLY
-Off topic, but some may apreciate this chip tune made on
not really for the sega genesis. just for fun.
9-bit colour, divvied up into 4 palettes of 15+alpha colours each, just like momma used to make. the song was made with an emulator for the Yamaha YM2612, the chip used to create the sound in the sega genesis.
chiptune, graphics, animation and whatever made by me.
the original song is "A Real Hero" by College and Electric Youth, and the movie Drive is copyright whoever made the original movie
=Listen Here= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwphxegBpLY
sixteen-bit
Member
Hey, a Sega Modem video. I learned something new today.
Shadow Hog
Member
I haven't bought a game for this Sega CD in a while. Found a CiB copy of Flink for only $30 (I usually see it around $50), so I went ahead and jumped on that. Always looked really charming, and was one of the reasons I jumped for a Sega CD in the first place, so hoping it lives up to my expectations.
IrishNinja
Member
HNNNGGHHH dyin over here waiting on my XRGB, got these SCART RGB's just sittin here
...so how does one prepare for such an arrival? by testing out/playing Genesis games on a 50" plasma over composite, of course!
haha man i should've taken pics; Comix Zone is a fuckin' tragedy, Cap & the Avengers looks like a decent 8-bit game. Hyperstone Heist looks...honestly, that's a good looking game, even composhit couldn't fuck it up too bad. Ranger X is a blast but man those controls take some getting used to!
Battletoads...wow i forgot how small those sprites were, after playing a lot've SENS battlemaniacs it's weird going back, but i guess this is pretty much how the NES one looked, i forget
also, while it's cool to have the arcade intro back in SF II: Special Champion Turbo whatever, anyone else notice that instead of a white guy punching a black dude, it's two white guys fighting? gotta wonder what kinda PC decision that was
ps so right after saying i was done buying games, i catch Vectorman 1 & 2 for $9. i swear, sometimes late at night i just bid on something no one else is & see what happens, every now and again you win shit pretty cheap that way
...so how does one prepare for such an arrival? by testing out/playing Genesis games on a 50" plasma over composite, of course!
haha man i should've taken pics; Comix Zone is a fuckin' tragedy, Cap & the Avengers looks like a decent 8-bit game. Hyperstone Heist looks...honestly, that's a good looking game, even composhit couldn't fuck it up too bad. Ranger X is a blast but man those controls take some getting used to!
Battletoads...wow i forgot how small those sprites were, after playing a lot've SENS battlemaniacs it's weird going back, but i guess this is pretty much how the NES one looked, i forget
also, while it's cool to have the arcade intro back in SF II: Special Champion Turbo whatever, anyone else notice that instead of a white guy punching a black dude, it's two white guys fighting? gotta wonder what kinda PC decision that was
ps so right after saying i was done buying games, i catch Vectorman 1 & 2 for $9. i swear, sometimes late at night i just bid on something no one else is & see what happens, every now and again you win shit pretty cheap that way
sixteen-bit
Member
Genesis' limited color palette in action
And yeah, auctions that end at odd hours really increase your chance for a deal. I'm not a biggest fan of the Vectormen, but they have really cool soundtracks.
Sapiens
Member
IrishNinja
Member
OMG THE XRGB IS HERE OMG
so of course i gotta go watch iron man 3 now, haha...here's to later tonight! love for bocodragons for helping push me along
so of course i gotta go watch iron man 3 now, haha...here's to later tonight! love for bocodragons for helping push me along
IrishNinja
Member
back now, hooking up the cables...out of AC slots, argggghhhh
something's getting tossed, im breaking in this upscaler with either Panzer Saga or Pulseman, not sure which yet but at least all the cables are fitting so far
something's getting tossed, im breaking in this upscaler with either Panzer Saga or Pulseman, not sure which yet but at least all the cables are fitting so far
dreamcastmaster
Banned
It's going to look glorious!
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Cheers man.. i hope you enjoy retro perfection!
IrishNinja
Member
oh god ive drunkenly assembled all the cords/components, but the manual & remote are all in japanese...i have no idea what i'm going i'm not so god at upscaler
time to hit google and hope for the best
time to hit google and hope for the best
dreamcastmaster
Banned
Awesome drunk post there
IrishNinja
Member
....okay, so some sobering veggie pasta later, i sorted out how to get input set to RGB (the button's in english, hahaha), as well as toggling ratio & scanlines...i know i debated new shit like pulseman but i decided to put some childhood classics to the test - MUSHA & moonwalker for genny, dracula X & ZAMN for SNES, so...impressions so far:
holy shit
i don't even have this thing configured right - genesis still occasionally displays a weird line at the bottom of my panny plasma here & there, for instance - but best i can say is this: those of you who also grew up witnessing the awe of the generational shifts from 8 > 16 > 32 bit, remember how impressive that shit was when you first saw it? yeah yeah, it was on an optimized CRT of some kind, but even so...imagine that you can see that again, but sharper
the kid in me feels like the old gap between consoles & arcades has closed a bit more, because the old games are looking how they should. it's so cool, and forcing stereo sound through 7.1 just adds to it.
trophies & meta-gaming aside, i should've bought this thing ages ago instead of clogging up so many threads asking for HD remakes where 9 times outta 10 OG hardware can't be beat. now if you'll excuse me, i'm off to test Panzer Dragoon Saga and break in this Saturn the right way.
edit this page is a fucking godsend
holy shit
i don't even have this thing configured right - genesis still occasionally displays a weird line at the bottom of my panny plasma here & there, for instance - but best i can say is this: those of you who also grew up witnessing the awe of the generational shifts from 8 > 16 > 32 bit, remember how impressive that shit was when you first saw it? yeah yeah, it was on an optimized CRT of some kind, but even so...imagine that you can see that again, but sharper
the kid in me feels like the old gap between consoles & arcades has closed a bit more, because the old games are looking how they should. it's so cool, and forcing stereo sound through 7.1 just adds to it.
trophies & meta-gaming aside, i should've bought this thing ages ago instead of clogging up so many threads asking for HD remakes where 9 times outta 10 OG hardware can't be beat. now if you'll excuse me, i'm off to test Panzer Dragoon Saga and break in this Saturn the right way.
edit this page is a fucking godsend
dreamcastmaster
Banned
Try a good 2D Saturn game, one of the 4M Ram cart games.
IrishNinja
Member
fuggit, my region-free shit made this 4 meg action replay thing sit here for nothing, but x-men v SF is right over there, why the fuck not? i got a good feeling about these scanlines
Dragon1893
Member
Did anyone here play back to the future 3? The game was crap but I had it because they were giving it away along with sonic 2 when I bought it. Definitely one of the hardest games I ever beat.
baphomet
Member
I had always heard it was programmed to run in 50hz, so when they brought it to the states they just had the game run faster than it originally was supposed to. It is impossible though. I've never made it past the first level because you literally have no time to react. Instant death over, and over, and over.
IrishNinja
Member
nabbed DJ boy w/box for like $4 shipped, between this and price checking Trampoline Terror i feel safe saying i'm near the very bottom of my list
KDash31987
Member
I don't suppose anyone here could help me get a high-resolution scan of the cover slip art for the Mega Drive version of Sailor Moon, could they? Since boxed copies are hella expensive, I'm seriously considering getting a loose copy, even though I've never bought a loose game for anything from the 16-bit Generation and up. I only buy some NES and Atari 2600/7800 games loose, though I did get a few loose SNES/Genesis games for free from friends.
Anyway, I'm thinking about just getting a cheap replacement case (real Genesis case, not those big universal cases that people around here use a lot), and just inserting a printout of the cover art in there, so that it'll match the rest of my games. I have nearly 80 boxed Genesis games, so I want it to match the rest of them. I tried looking online for the art, but I couldn't find anything good enough, and the best stuff I could find had watermarks on them. Heh.
If I could get a good scan of the art, I'd just go ahead and buy the game. Hopefully you guys can help me out! I'd really, really appreciate it!
Anyway, I'm thinking about just getting a cheap replacement case (real Genesis case, not those big universal cases that people around here use a lot), and just inserting a printout of the cover art in there, so that it'll match the rest of my games. I have nearly 80 boxed Genesis games, so I want it to match the rest of them. I tried looking online for the art, but I couldn't find anything good enough, and the best stuff I could find had watermarks on them. Heh.
If I could get a good scan of the art, I'd just go ahead and buy the game. Hopefully you guys can help me out! I'd really, really appreciate it!
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
KDash31987
Member
Thank you very much! You've made my morning start off great. Hah. I really appreciate the help.
Now I just need to figure out how to properly print it out for the best quality...
EDIT: Damn it, the copy I was keeping my eye on was sold while I was sleeping. Gonna to look for another affordable one, somehow... *sigh*
Well, there's some, but they're a bit more than the one I was looking at, and in not as a good condition (one of them is pretty beat up)...and none are from a US seller like the other one was. Heh. I guess I'll see if I can get something, anyway. Still, thanks again for the scan! It'll come in useful when I finally get it.
While i know its a Megadrive thread I assume there will never be a MegaCD thread so i'll reminisce here lol
My ten year old self was playing some instore demo megadrive when a new demo was being set up on a big ass old-skool screen like this:
so i went over to see what was being set up and I notice the megadrive looked....well...different...it was bigger...it had a new base!!
I nearly wet myself! This was before the internet and i had'ent even heard of an add-on coming (before i started buying game mags too)...
Then I watched as the salesman made the disc tray open and put a game on a CD into the Megadrive and it started playing!
I cant explain what emotions and confusion ran through my body but it was godly. I saved up for years and finally bought a model 2 megaCD and was in love <3
I now have like three Sega Mega CD's / Sega CD systems lol...
My ten year old self was playing some instore demo megadrive when a new demo was being set up on a big ass old-skool screen like this:
so i went over to see what was being set up and I notice the megadrive looked....well...different...it was bigger...it had a new base!!
I nearly wet myself! This was before the internet and i had'ent even heard of an add-on coming (before i started buying game mags too)...
Then I watched as the salesman made the disc tray open and put a game on a CD into the Megadrive and it started playing!
I cant explain what emotions and confusion ran through my body but it was godly. I saved up for years and finally bought a model 2 megaCD and was in love <3
I now have like three Sega Mega CD's / Sega CD systems lol...
sixteen-bit
Member
I need to get a Mega CD. I'd like to get a Model 1 version since I prefer the look, but apparently they're finicky.
IrishNinja
Member
i hear that too...so happy the one i pulled off craigslist seems to work just fine! all im looking for now is a model 1 Genesis without the TMSS, hard to sort since most people selling them don't seem to bother booting them up.
I have yet to find a working Sega CD
I do own a few SCD games though. There is a great alternative to owning the console, as the Kega Fusion emulator will actually play the Sega CD discs through your PC disc drive. Works great.
I don't mind emulating the Sega CD games in this manner I find if and when I find them, seeing as I have had bad luck finding a working Sega CD system over the past few years. At least until the day I finally own one
I do own a few SCD games though. There is a great alternative to owning the console, as the Kega Fusion emulator will actually play the Sega CD discs through your PC disc drive. Works great.
I don't mind emulating the Sega CD games in this manner I find if and when I find them, seeing as I have had bad luck finding a working Sega CD system over the past few years. At least until the day I finally own one
Genesis Knight
Member
Tons of great CD games. Dark wizard, dungeon explorer, robot aleste, lunar 2, road avenger, and so on.