Danjin44
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So far I'm enjoying this game far more than I thought I would, on hard they give you enough supplies to barely survive but not thrive.
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Silent Hill 2 |OT| You promised you'd take me there again someday...
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Bartski
Gold Member
Had to boot the game to check, you're right it's there after the epilepsy warning. Very subtle. Compare that to Short Message that needs to make sure you're ok every 30 mins or so.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Just got out of the goddamn hospital. Holy shit, my ass was on fire the whole way through this hell hole. It's the scariest, the most nerve wracking and terrifying shit I've seen in traditional survival horror games since.... SH3 probably. None of the RE remakes come even close. What they did with the enemies in the game is an astounding achievement in comparison to what they were in the original game. And the Flesh Lip boss fight... simply amazing rework of the whole thing, hands down.
I can't even imagine what they'll do with the first game if Konami lets them do it, but I can tell you right now that my ass is not ready for this kind of shit based on what I've seen in their version of SH2 so far.
Bartski
Gold Member
Fun video from a Silent Hill maniac and true hardcore Downpour hater:
And some others:
you made me boot the game again. I just reached the town and I'd like to continue but the issues on RPCS3 kill it for me. I might restart on Xenia. Or buy the damn disc, that's over 100 bucks here used.
tommib
Gold Member
If you thought the hospital was hell…
Just got out of the goddamn hospital. Holy shit, my ass was on fire the whole way through this hell hole. It's the scariest, the most nerve wracking and terrifying shit I've seen in traditional survival horror games since.... SH3 probably. None of the RE remakes come even close. What they did with the enemies in the game is an astounding achievement in comparison to what they were in the original game. And the Flesh Lip boss fight... simply amazing rework of the whole thing, hands down.
I can't even imagine what they'll do with the first game if Konami lets them do it, but I can tell you right now that my ass is not ready for this kind of shit based on what I've seen in their version of SH2 so far.
Well…
Get your Xanax prescription ready, baby boy.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
In the labyrinth. That prison was hell lol.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
tommib
OmegaSupreme
P.S. I mean, the whole ascent and then descent from the huge skyskraper as Abby in TLOU2 was one hell of a suicide mission, but... man, SH2R is worse, MUCH worse, but in a good survival horror way though.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Highly doubtful
balls of snow
Member
I like how the games final open area is not as intense as the descent to literal hell that begins at the otherworld hospital. Its a bit like a proper epilogue.
Got both the leave and in water ending. 10/10 traumatic experience playing the full game with pulse headphones at night almost daily the last 2 weeks.
Also, breaking his delusion watching the video ejects him from the otherworld into the real world. Nice touch.
The_Observer
Member
For me nothing beats the hospital’s second floor, the area where the nurse’s station is. The sounds there were so nightmarish that I was terrified even if I just needed to get close to that place. F that place.
P.S. I mean, the whole ascent and then descent from the huge skyskraper as Abby in TLOU2 was one hell of a suicide mission, but... man, SH2R is worse, MUCH worse, but in a good survival horror way though.
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Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Calverz
Member
First time I played, I thought prison was nightmare fuel.
tommib
Gold Member
I’ll never forget that level + what comes after. It’s probably the most horrific combo of areas in videogame history.
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Chuck Berry
Gold Member
I’m still thinking about it daily weeks later
SpearHea.:D
Member
The prison area is incredible, loving all the stress and anxiety.
True survival horror experience.
True survival horror experience.
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SpearHea.:D
Member
Shit this encounter was intense.
Umbral
Member
Glad I skipped that one then.
One of the best horror levels ever. It is tense as hell
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
The entire AWII feels even more like a boring af walk in the park with terrible enemy design (cuz of which combat and everything around it suffers a lot) after this:
I mean, the atmosphere and visuals are there in AWII, but unfortunately absolutely nothing else gameplay and combat wise.
I mean, the atmosphere and visuals are there in AWII, but unfortunately absolutely nothing else gameplay and combat wise.
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DirtyBast8rd
Member
Besides everything else being awesome in Silent Hill 2, this game reminds me how great it is to play game and don't need to go looking for weapon upgrades and looting boxes for scrap and xp. Just play the game, get/find a weapon, find ammo. Done. It takes away from the experience. Adventure games should not have this game mechanic either. Got sick of it in the reboot Tomb Raider trilogy.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
I’m at final stretch, doing final dungeon and I only play SH2 in late nights before going to sleep.Damn dude you finished Metaphor already?
luca_29_bg
Member
There is no canon ending, according to Masahairo Ito, all endings are valid because they are available depending the actions James takes in the game.
luca_29_bg
Member
Enemies are tied to the story, they couldn't be more that what are in the game, it's already enough that we get variation of them.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
Still SH2 enemies looks waaaaaaay better than what AW2 give us, I especially was disappointed in the dark world they could have come up with more creative enemies but instead they give blurry looking enemies and feels like they tried to censor something.
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april6e
Member
I finally finished up and obviously the game was incredible. I'm happy I was able to be patient for over a decade and wait for a remake for my first experience with the franchise. I'm happy I got one of the rarer endings accidently so I don't have to suffer trying to get it later.
I was too scared to look this up as I was trying to avoid spoilers but do new game plus playthroughs have any meaningful changes like changes to enemy placements or a different final boss? Or is it just the same thing except for the ending cutscene and the new weapon/key items you can obtain?
I was too scared to look this up as I was trying to avoid spoilers but do new game plus playthroughs have any meaningful changes like changes to enemy placements or a different final boss? Or is it just the same thing except for the ending cutscene and the new weapon/key items you can obtain?
Big Baller
Al Pachinko, Konami President
The entire AWII feels even more like a boring af walk in the park with terrible enemy design (cuz of which combat and everything around it suffers a lot) after this:
I mean, the atmosphere and visuals are there in AWII, but unfortunately absolutely nothing else gameplay and combat wise.
Tell me about it. AW2 is amateur hour compared to SH2. Its just pretentious slog with stupid jump scares. Nearly done with the dlc and wont ever look back. I liked Remedy when they made simple games like Max Payne.
Danjin44
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I appreciated what AW2 try to do but at its core Remedy still dont know how make good survival horror game. They rely on cheap jump scare wth loud noise because dont have good enemies to support it.
Both OG SH2 and SH2 Remake have this high tension that never lets up and even after kill the enemy you never know when you are safe and the music and sound design....
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Big Baller
Al Pachinko, Konami President
TerribleAtThisGame
Member
It's funny that AW2 was the game I couldn't wait for and loved the preview footage of and ended up hating. Like you said, it feels aggressively pretentious and all style while the game itself has no teeth. SH2 was a trash fest on my end and turned out to be the Titanic of Survival Horror with a vibe that feels like the polar opposite of AW2 that ends up achieving what that game wishes it could in its wildest board room meeting dreams.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
You and me both, and I was pretty much a diehard fan up until then. AW2 is the most disappointing game/sequel I’ve played in years. And now I question everything Remedy does.
Side note - What’d we all think of Laura’s Theme in this one?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Didn't like it, the original is better.
The guitar riff on this one starts off like a Persona 4 track and some of the background cues are odd, there's some weird chant/vocals in it etc etc. I guess I'm just too used to the original.
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The_Observer
Member
Sounds like an inferior cover of the original to me. The music is the only thing that should not have been touched IMO. Anyway, still good, but not as good as the original.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
It goes to show you just HOW IMPORTANT enemy design really is in survival horror games. They have other problems like boring and needlessly long traversal between areas during Saga's story, but honestly, I could close my eyes on this if enemy designs weren't so bad, boring and combat didn't suffer a lot cuz of this.
Danjin44
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Its MOST important part of good survival horror game, I go as far as say it’s important as combat.
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Big Baller
Al Pachinko, Konami President
I can go without combat but I dont like hide and seek/ trial error gameplay like Outlast for example. I hate those games, dont like Amnesia either but I loved Alien Isolation tho. They hit the right balance there.
Danjin44
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Because there is nothing scary about just running away. Combat adds player choice and the fact sooner or later you have to confront the those scary monsters which adds tension and fear.
I just reached the prison, holy fuck! The way you go to this place is creepy as fuck as if you are going in to depth of hell.
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Johnny Concrete
Member
I finished it a couple of days ago as a big Silent Hill 2 fan. And I think it's incredible.
I decided from the start to do Hard/Hard and it paid off. The puzzles were a bit all over the place in terms of difficulty, but I only had trouble with 1 that took me a bit longer than I liked, most of them were still pretty easy.
The combat was very challenging. It's pretty hard for me when you're very vulnerable and have to dodge and hit precisely. The result was that my James was most of the time limping through these horror-filled hallways with 0 health items and little ammo. Which added to the experience a lot.
Every time I heard that radio buzzing I was on the edge of my seat ("phew, just a roach"). And of course I couldn't rely on it too much either, because of the fucking mannequins.
I'm so glad this version exists now. I always wanted that experience of playing SH2 again, but without actually playing the original.
I felt the exact same playing this version, where everything felt familiar, but also very fresh.
The only thing missing was the dreaded feeling I had wandering the environments, because I was constantly afraid the darkness would reveal pyramid head. I knew going in that he would only show up as boss-fights basically. Maybe it would've been cool if they turned him into some sort of Mister X from RE2 that haunts you down in the Other World versions.
But man, it was a pretty substantial game and worth every minute of my time. GOTY.
I decided from the start to do Hard/Hard and it paid off. The puzzles were a bit all over the place in terms of difficulty, but I only had trouble with 1 that took me a bit longer than I liked, most of them were still pretty easy.
The combat was very challenging. It's pretty hard for me when you're very vulnerable and have to dodge and hit precisely. The result was that my James was most of the time limping through these horror-filled hallways with 0 health items and little ammo. Which added to the experience a lot.
Every time I heard that radio buzzing I was on the edge of my seat ("phew, just a roach"). And of course I couldn't rely on it too much either, because of the fucking mannequins.
I'm so glad this version exists now. I always wanted that experience of playing SH2 again, but without actually playing the original.
I felt the exact same playing this version, where everything felt familiar, but also very fresh.
The only thing missing was the dreaded feeling I had wandering the environments, because I was constantly afraid the darkness would reveal pyramid head. I knew going in that he would only show up as boss-fights basically. Maybe it would've been cool if they turned him into some sort of Mister X from RE2 that haunts you down in the Other World versions.
But man, it was a pretty substantial game and worth every minute of my time. GOTY.
Holdfing
Member
Johnny Concrete
Member
SpearHea.:D
Member
Dont watch it until you cleared the prison area, bravo. This is masterpiece in survival horror
Johnny Concrete
Member
Yes I admit that scared me as well. It's actually another callback to the original I believe, where you hear knocking on a bathroom door.
Some people hate that stuff, but I like it. But then again, I also liked all the jump scare bullshit in Alan Wake II
TerribleAtThisGame
Member
I was so unbelievably on edge already when this happened that I full-on lost my shit. I loudly yelled "no!" and stopped playing for the night.
Again the devil is in the details. Not even that jump scare is normal videogame shit. The female voice is doubled with some pitch shifter and sounds unnatural and eerie as fuck. Also the delivery, everything in that game sounds sad and desperate.
tommib
Gold Member
That shit was sick. And with headphones… dear lord.
TerribleAtThisGame
Member
This tune is one of my favorite moments in the game. I keep listening to it and thinking about what an incredible gaming moment it was to walk into this after the impeccable build-up to the apartment.
tommib
Gold Member
DirtyBast8rd
Member
Finished SH2R this afternoon. What a game, good till the very end. In the water ending seems appropriate. Read up on the different endings after and have this one seems the most in line with the game. Surely will do another play through some day.
