Snow White 2025 Official Trailer | Gal Gadot & Rachel Zegler

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She's got a trash personality, but some you are fooling yourselves if you think she's not attractive.

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She might actually be done getting any major roles after this. She's a pretty talented singer and a good enough actress, so I'm sure she'll still get work. But I can't see her attached to any films with a blockbuster budget attached to it. The industry is going to see her as a risk.

Honestly pretty fucked up of her to say all this shit she said, knowing her co-star is from Israel. Not saying she's not entitled to her opinions, but it was extremely unprofessional and immature.
Better body than face (assuming someone likes a lean figure than more curvy or meaty body types).

When she's all done up with great hair, make up and clothes and has a straight on shot without showing her gangly smile, she looks good.

Take away the hollywood style, show her teeth and show a side shot showing her pointy chin and big forehead and she's not as hot as all the glammed up pics show.
 
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Better body than face (assuming someone likes a lean figure than more curvy or meaty body types).

When she's all done up with great hair, make up and clothes and has a straight on shot without showing her gangly smile, she looks good.

Take away the hollywood style, show her teeth and show a side shot showing her pointy chin and big forehead and she's not as hot as all the glammed up pics show.
The fact that she is always making these strange facial expressions doesn't help her any either.
 

StreetsofBeige

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SW sales dropping like a rock. Already bumped to third place domestically, and just a couple hundred grand from being forth.

Currently, it has $100M global receipts. Might be $110M after tomorrow comes through.

Will this movie even reach $200M total? Likely not.

Looks like a $150M-ish movie after all said and done.
Big bump. Now at $143M globally. Maybe something wrong with the timing on Numbers.com because I find it hard to believe SW made $43M in one day. Then again, maybe yesterday (Saturday) was a huge day.

If the movie sticks around for another month, maybe it gets $200-250M?
 

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She might actually be done getting any major roles after this. She's a pretty talented singer and a good enough actress, so I'm sure she'll still get work. But I can't see her attached to any films with a blockbuster budget attached to it. The industry is going to see her as a risk.

Honestly pretty fucked up of her to say all this shit she said, knowing her co-star is from Israel. Not saying she's not entitled to her opinions, but it was extremely unprofessional and immature.

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Found this thread about how Disney has always simpler fairy tales.

I like this quote

As G.K. Chesterton once said:

"Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children the dragons can be killed."

I want to live in the simulation where EVERY film loses in the second weekend to Statham!

And everyones screensaver is always.....


Now that one is classic.
 
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Great Auk

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Big bump. Now at $143M globally. Maybe something wrong with the timing on Numbers.com because I find it hard to believe SW made $43M in one day. Then again, maybe yesterday (Saturday) was a huge day.

If the movie sticks around for another month, maybe it gets $200-250M?

Making 56 million worldwide for a major Disney release only in its second week is really bad.
 

adj83

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It's interesting how the actress seems to be getting the vast majority of the criticism for this sh*tshow (in general, I haven't read all of the posts here and don't know if anyone else has said it)

Sure, the spotlight will focus on the lead actors and it was idiotic of her to make antagonistic comments that were only going to hurt the film, but you have the writers who decided to do Snow White minus the Prince, you have casting and who knows who else who decided to make dwarves ineligible for the 7 dwarf roles (so much for "only people from marginalised community X can play the role of someone from marginalised community X"). There's probably other shenanigans as well.

I'm genuinely not defending her but the film even got awful reviews from places like the Guardian. The actress being the focal point shields the director / producers / writers / casting / other execs who made & approved bad decision after bad decision. The actress even had a history of saying dumb stuff on social media long before she landed this gig but they decided it was a good idea to cast her as the lead in a Disney fairytale film. Disney shouldn't get a "Get Out of Jail Free By Turning Actress Into Scapegoat" pass
 
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It's interesting how the actress seems to be getting the vast majority of the criticism for this sh*tshow (in general, I haven't read all of the posts here and don't know if anyone else has said it)
Because nothing (well nothing much) negative would have happened if not for her opening her mouth.

Sure, the spotlight will focus on the lead actors and it was idiotic of her to make antagonistic comments that were only going to hurt the film, but you have the writers who decided to do Snow White minus the Prince, you have casting and who knows who else who decided to make dwarves ineligible for the 7 dwarf roles (so much for "only people from marginalised community X can play the role of someone from marginalised community X"). There's probably other shenanigans as well.
The dwarf situation is another person to blame I don't think anybody blames her for that. However the situation with prince it was her mocking the original story which really rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way. I wonder if he political statement caused that much of backlash in comparison to mocking the original story.

The actress even had a history of saying dumb stuff on social media long before she landed this gig but they decided it was a good idea to cast her as the lead in a Disney fairytale film. Disney shouldn't get a "Get Out of Jail Free By Turning Actress Into Scapegoat" pass
Well maybe Disney thought she would smart enough not to be overly political.
 
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jason10mm

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It's interesting how the actress seems to be getting the vast majority of the criticism for this sh*tshow (in general, I haven't read all of the posts here and don't know if anyone else has said it)

Sure, the spotlight will focus on the lead actors and it was idiotic of her to make antagonistic comments that were only going to hurt the film, but you have the writers who decided to do Snow White minus the Prince, you have casting and who knows who else who decided to make dwarves ineligible for the 7 dwarf roles (so much for "only people from marginalised community X can play the role of someone from marginalised community X"). There's probably other shenanigans as well.

I'm genuinely not defending her but the film even got awful reviews from places like the Guardian. The actress being the focal point shields the director / producers / writers / casting / other execs who made & approved bad decision after bad decision. The actress even had a history of saying dumb stuff on social media long before she landed this gig but they decided it was a good idea to cast her as the lead in a Disney fairytale film. Disney shouldn't get a "Get Out of Jail Free By Turning Actress Into Scapegoat" pass
I'm not sure anyone is giving Disney a pass, they have been taking a beating for YEARS over bad decisions like this. Go look at the The Little Mermaid thread, perhaps.
 
Sure, but 500mill of whatever it got for a live action THE LITTLE MERMAID? A. it maybe squeaked into profitability as it was another massively over budgeted film and B. that should have CRUSHED the box office, it's possibly Disney's most famous IP after Frozen.
I don't think a live action Frozen would have had a big box office though. Still 500m is decent as I think with marketing the Little Mermaid would be around 200-300m .
 

adj83

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Because nothing (well nothing much) negative would have happened if not for her opening her mouth.

Sorry, I didn't explain. I meant the fact that it even got bad reviews from Guardian etc. suggest that even without her comments, the film would have bombed, people would have then looked into why and the other things would have got attention & criticism. So I think it would have got noticeable negative attention regardless. Less overall, sure, but perhaps more would have been directed at Disney.

The dwarf situation is another person to blame I don't think anybody blames her for that. However the situation with prince it was her mocking the original story which really rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way. I wonder if he political statement caused that much of backlash in comparison to mocking the original story.

I wasn't blaming her for the dwarves situation, it is just something that deserves more attention, imo, because how that came to be made (imagine what was said in various calls/meetings when deciding it...) combined with previous comments about roles for X people only going to actors in community X etc. is pretty telling.

Yeah, I agree that her comment about the original story was like a magnifying glass on the plot change/lack of Prince.

Well maybe Disney thought she would smart enough not to be overly political.

Hoping a rich, woke & outspoken girl in her early 20's changes her ways seems optimistic. I am surprised they don't put anything in the contract, like they do with morality clauses.
 
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Sorry, I didn't explain. I meant the fact that it even got bad reviews from Guardian etc. suggest that even without her comments, the film would have bombed, people would have then looked into why and the other things would have got attention & criticism. So I think it would have got noticeable negative attention regardless. Less overall, sure, but perhaps more would have been directed at Disney.
Personally I was surprised by the reviews - did not expect the media outlets to be so negative on the film. Though the Guardian gave 2 starts to the Little Mermaid so...
 
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I don't think a live action Frozen would have had a big box office though. Still 500m is decent as I think with marketing the Little Mermaid would be around 200-300m .
500m is not decent. They would be lucky to break even.

Disney only gets roughly 50% of the box office as the other half goes to theaters, so for a movie with 200m budget and 100m+ for marketing, you need at least 600m to break even.
 
500m is not decent. They would be lucky to break even.

Disney only gets roughly 50% of the box office as the other half goes to theaters, so for a movie with 200m budget and 100m+ for marketing, you need at least 600m to break even.
Oh I did not think about that theaters. No wonder Disney wants 1b box office for movies. What movie at this point can break even with such expenses?
 

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Big bump. Now at $143M globally. Maybe something wrong with the timing on Numbers.com because I find it hard to believe SW made $43M in one day. Then again, maybe yesterday (Saturday) was a huge day.

If the movie sticks around for another month, maybe it gets $200-250M?
Let me put my tinfoil hat on reminds of when it was being reported that Avatar 2 wasn't doing well then after a few weeks the narrative changed and it did amazingly that was really suspect
 
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adj83

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Personally I was surprised by the reviews - did not expect the media outlets to be so negative on the film. Though the Guardian gave 2 starts to the Little Mermaid so...

I was very surprised as well. Anti-wokery criticism of something before release usually means the MSM will at least give inflated scores in the review, no matter how bad it is. The film must be god awful to get those reviews from that audience under these circumstances.
 

jason10mm

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I don't think a live action Frozen would have had a big box office though. Still 500m is decent as I think with marketing the Little Mermaid would be around 200-300m .
Most of the other live actions before it were a billion +. Aladdin, Beauty and the Beast, Cinderella. So the heavy weight TLM was no doubt supposed to be 1-2 billion and they threw 250 MILLION at the budget, plus marketing which was pretty heavy for that film. Massive underperformer even if it technically might have earned a dollar. Much like Brave New World, it's not supposed to just break even, Disney banks on these films making 4-5x budget, not just cracking even (if even that).

A live action Frozen could EASILY be a 2 billion dollar winner, IF they cast it correctly. They just seem unable to understand this.
 
Oh I did not think about that theaters. No wonder Disney wants 1b box office for movies. What movie at this point can break even with such expenses?
They don't give a shit, they make their money elsewhere. Its kind of like with Microsoft and Xbox, to Microsoft, Xbox is just a drop in the pond they keep around so they can have a finger in gaming. They don't give a shit if it can earn a few billion or not, its nothing for them.

Disney wants to promote theme parks and merchandise, the movies serve those masters, if a film loses a few hundred million you just move on.

Like Bezos bought the Bond franchise because he was bored. The movie industry is a playground for giant companies these days.
 

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I know marketing was mentioned here, or rather the lack of. Considering the target audience wouldn't give a crap about her comments, being they're children, how could it do so bad? Were parents refusing to take their kids?

As for Frozen, I remember when Anna and Elsa showed up in Once Upon a Time and they were well cast. Though so was Ariel when she was in it.
 

jason10mm

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They don't give a shit, they make their money elsewhere. Its kind of like with Microsoft and Xbox, to Microsoft, Xbox is just a drop in the pond they keep around so they can have a finger in gaming. They don't give a shit if it can earn a few billion or not, its nothing for them.

Disney wants to promote theme parks and merchandise, the movies serve those masters, if a film loses a few hundred million you just move on.

Like Bezos bought the Bond franchise because he was bored. The movie industry is a playground for giant companies these days.
I don't think that is true for Disney AT ALL. THey used to be able to bank on HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS for each film, plus the rental/video sales market (remember their whole "out of the vault" approach? And the merch, oh, the MERCH! Every disney film came with BILLIONS of merch deals and marketing tie ins.

So these new films that barely make money at the BO and have ZERO dvd sales and merch, are COSTING Disney TONS of $$$ they used to rely on. D+ subs aint covering all the $$$ they used to rake in by the bucket load. It's not like this Snow White flick is gonna drive millions to go to the parks. It only kills their brand even further.

Disney is in real trouble. For god knows what reason they took a massive shit on the ultra reliable family audience they used to have, pivoted the 2 male oriented IPs they spend billions on (Marvel and Lucasarts) towards women, losing the male audience in the process, and decided to cater to fringe groups that don't pay the bills. They are in real trouble.

You can see their stock here. Maybe you can argue they plateaued in 2010 and thats the best they could hope for but WOW did they squander that 2021 peak.

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I don't think that is true for Disney AT ALL. THey used to be able to bank on HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS for each film, plus the rental/video sales market (remember their whole "out of the vault" approach? And the merch, oh, the MERCH! Every disney film came with BILLIONS of merch deals and marketing tie ins.

So these new films that barely make money at the BO and have ZERO dvd sales and merch, are COSTING Disney TONS of $$$ they used to rely on. D+ subs aint covering all the $$$ they used to rake in by the bucket load. It's not like this Snow White flick is gonna drive millions to go to the parks. It only kills their brand even further.
Yeah, and issues with movies flopping can potentially propagate to parks, merch etc. As for a lot of people these new movies are the first entry to the IP.

Disney is in real trouble. For god knows what reason they took a massive shit on the ultra reliable family audience they used to have, pivoted the 2 male oriented IPs they spend billions on (Marvel and Lucasarts) towards women, losing the male audience in the process, and decided to cater to fringe groups that don't pay the bills. They are in real trouble.

You can see their stock here. Maybe you can argue they plateaued in 2010 and thats the best they could hope for but WOW did they squander that 2021 peak.
I remember when Disney was a true juggernaut in MCU first phases era and first SW movies. Then they have run those IPs into the ground. It is a real question why the decided to abandon all the reliable historic fans in favor of ... "new" groups?
Als those market caps were inflated due to COVID for all the companies (Netflix is still growing).
 

kunonabi

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As somebody working in retail the only Disney merchandise that really does well for us is frozen, lilo and stitch, the ivy dolls, and some Moana after that. TBLM and Wish didn't sell at all and I'm not even sure we got any snow "white" merchandise.

Don't even get me started on how bad star wars and marvel is doing.
 
I don't think that is true for Disney AT ALL. THey used to be able to bank on HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS for each film, plus the rental/video sales market (remember their whole "out of the vault" approach? And the merch, oh, the MERCH! Every disney film came with BILLIONS of merch deals and marketing tie ins.

So these new films that barely make money at the BO and have ZERO dvd sales and merch, are COSTING Disney TONS of $$$ they used to rely on. D+ subs aint covering all the $$$ they used to rake in by the bucket load. It's not like this Snow White flick is gonna drive millions to go to the parks. It only kills their brand even further.

Disney is in real trouble. For god knows what reason they took a massive shit on the ultra reliable family audience they used to have, pivoted the 2 male oriented IPs they spend billions on (Marvel and Lucasarts) towards women, losing the male audience in the process, and decided to cater to fringe groups that don't pay the bills. They are in real trouble.

You can see their stock here. Maybe you can argue they plateaued in 2010 and thats the best they could hope for but WOW did they squander that 2021 peak.

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Disney had the biggest films of 2024, Inside Out 2 was massive, Wolverine and Deadpool was massive.
 
As somebody working in retail the only Disney merchandise that really does well for us is frozen, lilo and stitch, the ivy dolls, and some Moana after that. TBLM and Wish didn't sell at all and I'm not even sure we got any snow "white" merchandise.

Don't even get me started on how bad star wars and marvel is doing.
I am actually curious how much has SW declined in merchandise sales.
 

jason10mm

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Disney had the biggest films of 2024, Inside Out 2 was massive, Wolverine and Deadpool was massive.
And that's about it. Disney releases a ton of films each year and for a stretch they had a LOT of big budget bombs. DP3 and IO2 were definite high points, hopefully because they realize who their audience is and excised the crap that turned them off. You can roll with the punches when your stuff is well under 100 mill, thats how A24 and similar studios operate, but when you are dropping 200+ mill per picture in addition to a massive ad run, you need a big return.

Now obviously Disney is largely paying itself. I suspect they charge lucasarts or marvel a MILLION dollars a day for advertising the latest film within the park or on a disney owned channel. That way they can drive up the cost of the film, avoid paying out back end to anyone trying to get it, and they keep the money flowing internally. Just looking at their product, no way they should cost so much even with all the CG, as it usually looks terrible. They have big project management issues with these reshoots and stunt casting as well.
 

StreetsofBeige

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The fact that she is always making these strange facial expressions doesn't help her any either.
Adding to my response, the problem with her is in her heart she's a stage actor, who now does Hollywood. And with that comes Hollywood interviews and her social media and politics messing things up.

BUT, problem is if you watch her annoying video clips, she talks like a stage actor. That is over-emphasis and articulation. Might be fine being a stage actor trying to keep people awake in the back seats, but for Hollywood content and Q&A sometimes it calls for talking like a normal person. Not bellowing out lines on stage in a fake sounding way on Broadway. That's just becomes annoying.

She also doesn't seem to realize polarizing social media posts can create a bad image and make customers avoid a product. Again, not the type of thing a typical stage actor doing local theatre probably ever cares about doing. And if they do, they are probably smart enough not to say anything dumb.

Rachel Z seems to be a great singer, but doesn't seem to know how to interact with the public. She's one of those people when faced with some backlash would rather tell people to fuck off on Instagram than be low key for a bunch of months and let the dust settle. Again, not a smart way to conduct ones self. She is young at 23, so all these dopey posts and clips of her come from the past bunch of years. So basically the same as college age kids. College kids arent necessarily the smartest most mature people either. But I'd bet any dollar that if a college age kid had a good job at a company already or doing a intern/co-op program, they probably wouldnt do dumb social media posts or make the company look bad or if attending some industry gala or dinner they'd act goofy with peers like the weird weird clip.

She's got talent as a singer, but a weird person (pun kind of intended!).
 
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Madflavor

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I am actually curious how much has SW declined in merchandise sales.

I can't give you exact figures, but I know that aside from Grogu and Lego, Star Wars toy sales are not doing good at all. I listened to a Star Wars podcast awhile ago, where the former exec of Jakks Pacific Toys (one of the toy lines that makes Star Wars merch) was on as a guest. He said that the Sequel Trilogy totally failed to capture children, and Sequel Trilogy specific toys performed terribly. If anyone has an actual finger on the pulse of where overall interest is in with modern Star Wars, it's that guy. Because toy sales have always been the main money maker with Star Wars.
 

StreetsofBeige

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I can't give you exact figures, but I know that aside from Grogu and Lego, Star Wars toy sales are not doing good at all. I listened to a Star Wars podcast awhile ago, where the former exec of Jakks Pacific Toys (one of the toy lines that makes Star Wars merch) was on as a guest. He said that the Sequel Trilogy totally failed to capture children, and Sequel Trilogy specific toys performed terribly. If anyone has an actual finger on the pulse of where overall interest is in with modern Star Wars, it's that guy. Because toy sales have always been the main money maker with Star Wars.
I'll take a guess why toys failed is because the SW movies the past 10 years trend to more gritty. So kids wont care as much. The old movies and the 1999-ish movies were chock full of kiddy stuff, jokes, bubbly characters etc...

But the recent movies are more for adults. So unless grown ups go ape shit buying up all the toys, it makes sense to me why kids dont care as much.
 

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Adding to my response, the problem with her is in her heart she's a stage actor, who now does Hollywood. And with that comes Hollywood interviews and her social media and politics messing things up.

BUT, problem is if you watch her annoying video clips, she talks like a stage actor. That is over-emphasis and articulation. Might be fine being a stage actor trying to keep people awake in the back seats, but for Hollywood content and Q&A sometimes it calls for talking like a normal person. Not bellowing out lines on stage in a fake sounding way on Broadway. That's just becomes annoying.

She also doesn't seem to realize polarizing social media posts can create a bad image and make customers avoid a product. Again, not the type of thing a typical stage actor doing local theatre probably ever cares about doing. And if they do, they are probably smart enough not to say anything dumb.

Rachel Z seems to be a great singer, but doesn't seem to know how to interact with the public. She's one of those people when faced with some backlash would rather tell people to fuck off on Instagram than be low key for a bunch of months and let the dust settle. Again, not a smart way to conduct ones self. She is young at 23, so all these dopey posts and clips of her come from the past bunch of years. So basically the same as college age kids. College kids arent necessarily the smartest most mature people either. But I'd bet any dollar that if a college age kid had a good job at a company already or doing a intern/co-op program, they probably wouldnt do dumb social media posts or make the company look bad or if attending some industry gala or dinner they'd act goofy with peers like the weird weird clip.

She's got talent as a singer, but a weird person (pun kind of intended!).

I imagine after this flop she ends up on Broadway. Which will probably provide her a nice career, then after enough time she will get another shot at hollywood. Especially if Spielberg likes her.
 

StreetsofBeige

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I imagine after this flop she ends up on Broadway. Which will probably provide her a nice career, then after enough time she will get another shot at hollywood. Especially if Spielberg likes her.
Googling it, she already has an Evita gig lined up in London. So it looks like her stage career is fine. But Hollywood it'll be a stinker until someone gives her a chance again.
 

belmarduk

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I've finally come around on video game remakes thanks to Square Enix FF7 and DQ3... but I will never get on board with live-action remakes of cartoons. Stop it. There's never been a good one and this movie looks especially terrible.
 
I can't give you exact figures, but I know that aside from Grogu and Lego, Star Wars toy sales are not doing good at all. I listened to a Star Wars podcast awhile ago, where the former exec of Jakks Pacific Toys (one of the toy lines that makes Star Wars merch) was on as a guest. He said that the Sequel Trilogy totally failed to capture children, and Sequel Trilogy specific toys performed terribly. If anyone has an actual finger on the pulse of where overall interest is in with modern Star Wars, it's that guy. Because toy sales have always been the main money maker with Star Wars.
Well outside of Grogu, I can't even remember what "mascot" have the modern Star Wars produced. The messaging in the last movies has been for adults only (unlike the OG trilogy) and there were no "color shitshow" like the prequel trilogy without various colorful characters there. They turned all the fan favorites into "no cool characters".
 
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StreetsofBeige

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Well outside of Grogu, I can't even remember what "mascot" have the modern Star Wars produced. The messaging in the last movies has been for adults only (unlike the OG trilogy) and there were no "color shitshow" like the prequel trilogy without various colorful characters there. They turned all the fan favorites into "no cool characters".
I havent watched all the SW movies the past 10 years. But how many movies had that new R2D2 sidekick? That white and orange ball thing? Was that the mascot?
 

StreetsofBeige

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Probably smart to book work before the stink got on her.
By the sounds of it (assuming some streamers are correct), she lost various roles for films lately since SW bombed. So unless there's more Hollywood work for her later in the year, she'll be doing that London Evita thing (I checked it) for 3 months straight from June to beginning of Sep. And the calendar shows it's almost daily performances.

So you'll probably not hear from her again talking weird about her work unless she really wants to some reason rag on Evita which just gives media companies more ammo to not hire her (even for stage work). She might still do political social media posts though, which is overarching as it rags on 50% of the population to see her in any roles.

So it'll be interesting if she keeps low key the next 6 months or if she keeps on the trolling social media and Q&A with reporters.
 
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It's interesting how the actress seems to be getting the vast majority of the criticism for this sh*tshow (in general, I haven't read all of the posts here and don't know if anyone else has said it)

Sure, the spotlight will focus on the lead actors and it was idiotic of her to make antagonistic comments that were only going to hurt the film, but you have the writers who decided to do Snow White minus the Prince, you have casting and who knows who else who decided to make dwarves ineligible for the 7 dwarf roles (so much for "only people from marginalised community X can play the role of someone from marginalised community X"). There's probably other shenanigans as well.

I'm genuinely not defending her but the film even got awful reviews from places like the Guardian. The actress being the focal point shields the director / producers / writers / casting / other execs who made & approved bad decision after bad decision. The actress even had a history of saying dumb stuff on social media long before she landed this gig but they decided it was a good idea to cast her as the lead in a Disney fairytale film. Disney shouldn't get a "Get Out of Jail Free By Turning Actress Into Scapegoat" pass
You have a point but she should have kept her mouth shut and let the writers/Disney take the the entire blame for making alternate timeline with no Prince Snow White.
 
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