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[StreetsofBeige]

I can’t figure out how Ziegler got her start. Was she on a tv show or something?

High school theatre performances. And then got cast in West Side Story.

Given that she's supposedly a good singer and theatre performer, she's probably best suited for that kind of entertainment role. It's clear when it comes to Hollywood, social media, smacktalking back etc... her attitude doesn't fit well nor has her success. Most of her Hollywood stuff bombs out either financially, reviews or both though she's been blessed with a combo of Steven Spielberg, superhero movies, and Disney. You cant get more backing than that. She's basically tagged as unlikeable so much her recent movies all get hugely dislike ratioed on YT too as people like to dunk on her. Her overall best success is probably Hunger Games which made money and got decent reviews.

But if she kept a low profile doing Broadway kind of stuff, she'd probably have big success.

Rachel Zegler - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Zegler attended Immaculate Conception High School,[12] where she began her career starring in several musicals, playing Belle in Beauty and the Beast (2016), Ariel in The Little Mermaid (2017),[13] Dorothy Brock in 42nd Street (2018), and Princess Fiona in Shrek The Musical (2019).[14][15] For all four performances, she received Metropolitan High School Theater award nominations in the Actress in a Leading Role category.[14] Her other roles have included Serena in Legally Blonde, Cosette in Les Misérables, and Millie in Thoroughly Modern Millie.[16] Her YouTube channel was active from July 2015 to August 2023[17] which garnered media coverage and positive critical reception.[18][19] As of 2022, her video of herself singing "Shallow", from A Star Is Born, had garnered over 12.2 million views on Twitter.[20][10]

In January 2018, director Steven Spielberg posted an open casting call via Twitter for a new film adaptation of West Side Story.[21] Zegler, then 16 years old, responded to the casting call tweets with videos of herself singing "Tonight" and "I Feel Pretty"; she had performed the role at the Bergen Performing Arts Center in 2017.[22][10] She was selected from over 30,000 applicants for the role of Maria, marking her film debut.[23] The film was released in December 2021,[24] and earned acclaim from critics and audiences.[25][26][27] For her performance, she received a Critics' Choice Movie Award nomination for Best Young Performer and won the Golden Globe Award for Best Actress – Motion Picture Musical or Comedy,[28][29] making her the first actress of Colombian descent to win in that category as well as the youngest winner in that category at 20 years old.[30]

 

[AJUMP23]

High school theatre performances. And then got cast in West Side Story.

Given that she's supposedly a good singer and theatre performer, she's probably best suited for that kind of entertainment role. It's clear when it comes to Hollywood, social media, smacktalking back etc... her attitude doesn't fit well nor has her success. Most of her Hollywood stuff bombs out either financially, reviews or both though she's been blesses with a combo of Steven Spielberg, superhero movies, and Disney. You cant get more backing than that. She's basically tagged as unlikeable so much her recent movies all get hugely dislike ratioed on YT too as people like to dunk on her. Her overall best success is probably Hunger Games which made money and got decent reviews.

But if she kept a low profile doing Broadway kind of stuff, she'd probably have big success.

Rachel Zegler - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Zegler attended Immaculate Conception High School,[12] where she began her career starring in several musicals, playing Belle in Beauty and the Beast (2016), Ariel in The Little Mermaid (2017),[13] Dorothy Brock in 42nd Street (2018), and Princess Fiona in Shrek The Musical (2019).[14][15] For all four performances, she received Metropolitan High School Theater award nominations in the Actress in a Leading Role category.[14] Her other roles have included Serena in Legally Blonde, Cosette in Les Misérables, and Millie in Thoroughly Modern Millie.[16] Her YouTube channel was active from July 2015 to August 2023[17] which garnered media coverage and positive critical reception.[18][19] As of 2022, her video of herself singing "Shallow", from A Star Is Born, had garnered over 12.2 million views on Twitter.[20][10]

In January 2018, director Steven Spielberg posted an open casting call via Twitter for a new film adaptation of West Side Story.[21] Zegler, then 16 years old, responded to the casting call tweets with videos of herself singing "Tonight" and "I Feel Pretty"; she had performed the role at the Bergen Performing Arts Center in 2017.[22][10] She was selected from over 30,000 applicants for the role of Maria, marking her film debut.[23] The film was released in December 2021,[24] and earned acclaim from critics and audiences.[25][26][27] For her performance, she received a Critics' Choice Movie Award nomination for Best Young Performer and won the Golden Globe Award for Best Actress – Motion Picture Musical or Comedy,[28][29] making her the first actress of Colombian descent to win in that category as well as the youngest winner in that category at 20 years old.[30]

Crazy to go from high school To Spielberg. I feel like west side story flopped. But that is more of no one really needs a remake of wss. Seems like no one really needs a remake os Snow White.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Crazy to go from high school To Spielberg. I feel like west side story flopped. But that is more of no one really needs a remake of wss. Seems like no one really needs a remake os Snow White.

What she doesnt understand is that when you become unlikeable in media (Hollywood, sports, politician), it's pretty hard to shake the label being annoying or dickish. So people will be annoying back and dunk on her movies or do YT vids trying to trash her back. She might get trashed on for 20 or 30 years.

Your typical Gen Z attituder. From what I remember, I think Gal Gadot has tried to play it cool when talking about Snow White.

On the other hand, you look at a guy like Tom Cruise and the only time you ever hear from him is when he promotes a movie. And when he does it's often a cool fun stunt he does for laughs. Other than that, you dont hear anything annoying from him. Even when the actors strike happened and the picketers asked for him if he could join in, he balked and said forget it.

 

[TDiddyLive]

One part of her failures can definitely be attributed to her being unlikable, but to be fair one part on the studio from blowing budgets. If she only got paid $3M for Snow White (one of the earlier posts), she probably got paid even less for her other movies years back. So on a pure dollar level, she's actually a bargain since she isnt a $10M or $20M kind of hollywood star.

It’s not a bargain if by saving $7-17 million on a well liked actress, they cost themselves $50 million in ticket sales due to her unlikable attitude talking about the original movie.

 

[Lord Panda]

She run a train on those dwarves or something? How does any actor shine through a shit script and direction? The director of like 3 B B B Bilion dollar films, mind you.

The lass might be abrasive - and honestly, a great fit for a gender-swapped Lord Farquaad in a live-action Shrek- but credit where it’s due: she can easily sing and dance. Disney really dropped the ball with their young starlets. They should’ve had proper media handlers to keep these 20-somethings from mouthing off every time a mic was shoved in their faces. Both her and that other dork, Amandla Stenberg, should’ve been reined in from the start - especially in the age of social media, where there’s so much money and public image on the line. I probably talked just as much crap at their age, before I knew any better.

Anyway cool story bro, here's the video:



I also expected Manabyte to be in the thick of this thread, doing his usual Disney routine, but I just found out the dude finally got himself permed. Bloody hell.

 

[Tanus777]

Manabyte is permed?

 

[kruis]

Manabyte is permed?

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/the-reception-of-assassin%E2%80%99s-creed-shadows-in-japan-based-on-amazon-japan-sales-and-reviews-is-brutal.1682051/post-270234388

 

[Lukaku's First Touch]

Manabyte is permed?

Best news I've seen in years. Hopefully he can finally open his blinds and see some outside air (doubt it).

 

[Just_one]

the moment gal gadot was casted as the evil queen you that is jealous of snow white beauty you know the movie would be terrible.

gadot is one of the most beautiful women on the planet for gods sake

 

[kpopSuperstar]

One thing people overlook is how well these Disney films do on streaming, the cinema is not the end all. But under 45 million is a big bust no matter how you turn it.

Not as bad as that De Niro movie that landed on 3 million though. I didnt even know a movie could flop that hard.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I'll take a stab Snow White does $300-400M.

I just took a skim of Numbers.com and Moana 2 started earlier in the week on a Tuesday during USA Thanksgiving and did double what Snow White did before the weekend hit. After this weekend, Moana 2 was already at about half a billion globally after 1 week. Moana 2 also rode into Xmas having legs at theatres. $1B total sales.

Inside Out 2 did about $300M globally in a similar launch timeline as Snow White. It did $1.7B globally total.

Snow White is at $87M global sales after a weekend.

 

[jason10mm]

Manabyte is permed?

Awww man, he was good insider info on disney and marvel, most of the time. I still think BNW had massive, unplanned, and horrendously expensive reshoots despite what he says butg he was maybe correct about other things.

And I was hoping to dunk on him when RDJ pulls off his Dr. Doom mask and says "I'm Iron Man" in this second film

 

[Grildon Tundy]

Snow White launched the studio. Would be wild if it also ended it.

 

[AJUMP23]

Awww man, he was good insider info on disney and marvel, most of the time. I still think BNW had massive, unplanned, and horrendously expensive reshoots despite what he says butg he was maybe correct about other things.

And I was hoping to dunk on him when RDJ pulls off his Dr. Doom mask and says "I'm Iron Man" in this second film

I want him to say "It's Doom'n Time" as he kills a major character.

 

[AJUMP23]

Snow White launched the studio. Would be wild if it also ended it.

First animated feature film, Last Live action remake of an animated film. Hopefully.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

One thing people overlook is how well these Disney films do on streaming, the cinema is not the end all. But under 45 million is a big bust no matter how you turn it.

Not as bad as that De Niro movie that landed on 3 million though. I didnt even know a movie could flop that hard.

Deniro hasnt been relevant in ages. His best days were long time ago when he did mobster and Meet The Parents movies.

If you check his movies on his wiki, all his recent movies do almost nothing at the box office the past 10 years. The big one that sticks out as success is a film called The Intern in 2015. A few others did ok but he wasnt the lead actor.

 

[scoobidoo112]

I'll take a stab Snow White does $300-400M.

I just took a skim of Numbers.com and Moana 2 started earlier in the week on a Tuesday during USA Thanksgiving and did double what Snow White did before the weekend hit. After this weekend, Moana 2 was already at about half a billion globally after 1 week. Moana 2 also rode into Xmas having legs at theatres. $1B total sales.

Inside Out 2 did about $300M globally in a similar launch timeline as Snow White. It did $1.7B globally total.

Snow White is at $87M global sales after a weekend.

That's being very optimistic.

I think it will be lucky to reach $300M at this point, considering the overseas numbers are abysmal at the moment.

Dumbo ended with $353M. Snow White is projected below that, plus Minecraft is going to eat away its potential audience soon.

Reception in China is also looking pretty terrible:

 

[popeutlal]

Saw it with the kids on Saturday. I give it a score of Garbage out of 5.

Rachel was fine, the rest of cast was acting like they were in a high school play.

It was such a stale experience, I was bored out of my mind.

 

[Trilobit]

I don't care if this whole article is pure fiction. It's such a satisfying read:

Disney Reportedly Hired Social Media Watchdog for Rachel Zegler After Controversial Posts

On August 12, 2024, Rachel Zegler introduced the first official trailer for Disney’s live-action “Snow White” at the D23 fan event. The trailer quickly gained

www.comicbasics.com

 

[Fake]

I don't care if this whole article is pure fiction. It's such a satisfying read:

Disney Reportedly Hired Social Media Watchdog for Rachel Zegler After Controversial Posts

On August 12, 2024, Rachel Zegler introduced the first official trailer for Disney’s live-action “Snow White” at the D23 fan event. The trailer quickly gained

www.comicbasics.com

This is pretty pathetic to be honest. This is like only doing stuff with your father approval.

 

[jason10mm]

This is pretty pathetic to be honest. This is like only doing stuff with your father approval.

I dunno, if you have an EXTREMELY audience facing job, like being an actress, I'd think social media would be the LAST PLACE to vent. Forget trying to do it yourself, just hire a PR team to dribble out "I love my cats!" and "This pizza tastes great!" type posts every other day while you just get on with your life. I know Ethan Hawkes daughter said a strong social media presence is important for new actors, but I suspect that's 99% hot bikini body or veiny arms in the gym posts, not "I have cultivated an audience based on my political and social views".

 

[kruis]

The complete article that Comicbasics is quoting from is here.

Inside Disney’s ‘Snow White’ Fiasco: Death Threats, Beefed-Up Security and a Social Media Guru for Rachel Zegler

From beefing up security for Gal Gadot to hiring a social media guru for Rachel Zegler, go inside the fiasco that is Disney's "Snow White" remake.

variety.com

 

[Lord Panda]

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/the-reception-of-assassin%E2%80%99s-creed-shadows-in-japan-based-on-amazon-japan-sales-and-reviews-is-brutal.1682051/post-270234388

Holy shit, just caught up on that thread — what a rollercoaster. You can tell the Doomsday Clock for a user starts ticking the moment they slip into that passive-aggressive back-and-forth with EviLore . Thank you Ubisoft.

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

Deniro hasnt been relevant in ages. His best days were long time ago when he did mobster and Meet The Parents movies.

If you check his movies on his wiki, all his recent movies do almost nothing at the box office the past 10 years. The big one that sticks out as success is a film called The Intern in 2015. A few others did ok but he wasnt the lead actor.

The Intern is a guilty pleasure of mine. It's a complete and utter pile of shit for a movie and he plays the biggest corporate kiss arse of all time, but for some reason I love hate watching it.

 

[AJUMP23]

Movie making is interesting. When was this filmed that everyone is still wearing mask?

 

[jason10mm]

Movie making is interesting. When was this filmed that everyone is still wearing mask?

This was filmed two years ago, then it went into revisionist hell until Disney I guess had no choice but to release it.

Remember when this tweet really got the ball rolling?

And Disney tried to disown it. But aren't these characters in the film?

 

[Saber]

And Disney tried to disown it. But aren't these characters in the film?

They are the bandits. I don't believe for a second they weren't added later, they were probably meant to be the dwarves. I'm almost certain of that, because the movie has a lot of disconnections of when the dwarfs appear and when those bandits suddenly appear for no particular reason(almost like reshots were doing quickly and inserted out of context). I'm guessing the idea of putting them was so incredibly stupid they changed to CGI, but didn't kick them entirelly hence repurposed as bandits.

 

[AJUMP23]

This was filmed two years ago, then it went into revisionist hell until Disney I guess had no choice but to release it.

Remember when this tweet really got the ball rolling?

And Disney tried to disown it. But aren't these characters in the film?

They are there but no one is sure why.

 

[EverydayBeast]

If you’re a little girl I think you want to see Snow White.

 

[bitbydeath]

The complete article that Comicbasics is quoting from is here.

Inside Disney’s ‘Snow White’ Fiasco: Death Threats, Beefed-Up Security and a Social Media Guru for Rachel Zegler

From beefing up security for Gal Gadot to hiring a social media guru for Rachel Zegler, go inside the fiasco that is Disney's "Snow White" remake.

variety.com

Now that the film’s dismal opening weekend— $87 million worldwide — is in the rearview mirror, Burbank brass are evaluating what went wrong. To put “Snow White’s” global box office haul into perspective, it’s about $34 million less than Warner Bros.’ “Joker: Folie à Deux” in October but with a bigger budget by $70 million.

 

[MayauMiao]

Angry Joe went to see Snow White, took photo of his co-hosts.

 

[Shockwave_Fox]

Dont understand why they keep making live action versions of these animated movies - the lion king was so dumb. Just a bunch of lions dead eye staring with no facial expressions at all for 2 hours, plus the songs were all ruined and shat on.

My missus loves shit films though so will want to watch this trash sometime.

 

[kruis]

Dont understand why they keep making live action versions of these animated movies - the lion king was so dumb. Just a bunch of lions dead eye staring with no facial expressions at all for 2 hours, plus the songs were all ruined and shat on.

Top-Grossing Disney Live-Action Movies (Worldwide Box Office)​

1. The Lion King (2019) – $1.66 billion​

2. Beauty and the Beast (2017) – $1.26 billion​

3. Aladdin (2019) – $1.05 billion​

4. Alice in Wonderland (2010) – $1.02 billion​

5. The Jungle Book (2016) – $966 million​

 

[MayauMiao]

Guys, I think she lost it.

 

[Madflavor]

Era is absolutely seething from this article lol.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Entonces fracaso la cochinada??

So it was a fail?

 

[Cyberpunkd]

This is pretty pathetic to be honest. This is like only doing stuff with your father approval.

This is Disney we are talking about, a company that outright changed US IP law so they can continue to make a profit from the Mouse.

 

[Hari Seldon]

It makes sense she was mouthing off. I thought she was a Broadway star which didn’t make sense, because Broadway is a lot more competitive than film and no one will hire you as an unknown diva. She just got YouTube popular.

 

[AJUMP23]

Rachel Zegler | Actress, Soundtrack

Known for: West Side Story, The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes, Shazam! Fury of the Gods

www.imdb.com

She has no upcoming projects....is she done in hollyweird? Weird Weird. M ManaByte would know the answer to this. But alas he is done too.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Angry Joe went to see Snow White, took photo of his co-hosts.

But that guy is a sellout.

Un vil muerto de hambre

 

[CastorSoze]

That Whistle While You Work BTS video makes me wonder about the dwarves since we can see the wooden standees of them. So maybe was the plan originally and they started with them before changing to the bandits then changing back.

I'm sure a lot of the box office is people looking for youtube content. But I am looking forward to the Pitch Meeting.

As for Lion King, Disney seems confused as to whether it's live action or animated, since they have that post above about live action box office, yet during awards season it was up for animated awards.

Wonder if they would ever do Frozen. Probably think of it as a way to make easy money. They already have the stage production so not worried about milking it

 

[Unknown Soldier]

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Guys this is getting J U I C Y

 

[AJUMP23]

Guys this is getting J U I C Y

Came to post this. Unreal how much heat this will get. She will probably end up on broadway. But I doubt any studios take the risk.

 

[SirKicksalot]

That Whistle While You Work BTS video makes me wonder about the dwarves since we can see the wooden standees of them. So maybe was the plan originally and they started with them before changing to the bandits then changing back.

Mocap for the dwarves was finished in the first half of 2022.

Martin Klebba Casually Confirms Role In Disney's Live Action 'Snow White'

Nearly two years ago we reported on a rumor about Pirates of the Caribbean star Martin Klebba playing a key role in Disney’s live action ‘Snow White’ remake. Today, not only do we have confirmation of Klebba’s involvement in the project, but we also know who he’s going to be playing. In a video...

thedisinsider.com

I thought the bandits were stand-ins, capturing reference material for the CGI dwarves... Turns out that the prince was replaced with Legally Distinct Robin Hood and they are the Merry Men.

 

[Goalus]

Snow White Review - IGN

A live-action Disney remake that meaningfully adapts its original, rather than creating a lesser mimicry.

www.ign.com

Verdict​

The best Disney live-action remake in a decade (not that that’s a particularly high bar to clear), Snow White adapts the broad strokes of the 1937 original, while fleshing out its themes of kindness.

 

[-BLITZ-]

How can this movie possibly cost 270 MILLION dollars ?! Where in the world all this money went?

 

[Madflavor]

Snow White Review - IGN

A live-action Disney remake that meaningfully adapts its original, rather than creating a lesser mimicry.

www.ign.com

Verdict​

The best Disney live-action remake in a decade (not that that’s a particularly high bar to clear), Snow White adapts the broad strokes of the 1937 original, while fleshing out its themes of kindness.

“The Best Disney Remake in a Decade.”
“7/10”

Holy fuck my sides.

 

[MayauMiao]

“The Best Disney Remake in a Decade.”
“7/10”

Holy fuck my sides.

Jungle Book got 8.6/10, a 2016 movie.

Beauty & The Beast got 8/10, it a 2017 movie.

Yet a 7/10 Snow White is best remake in a decade.

This is why IGN scores mean so little.

 

[jason10mm]

Man, if Lilo and Stitch get mid reviews and underperforms as well......Disney gonna HAVE to change course. IMDB guesses L&S cost 150 mill, but Disney can't seem to get ANYTHING under 225-250 at least these days, so I suspect that's a better guess. Throw in marketing and its another half a billion target at least to eek out a profit. Wonder what the internationals look like for L&S. The first one did less overseas than domestic, but Moana has the usual 2:3 split we see these days so that might be a better guess.

Anyway, tough road ahead for the Mouse if they can't get their machine back on track with compliant actors, family-friendly scripts, and new ideas.