StereoVsn
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Yeah... will grab it in a year or two for $20.
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Sonic Superstars Announced, coming Fall 2023 | Summer Game Fest
Yeah... will grab it in a year or two for $20.
stickkidsam
Member
Would've liked to see a 2D animated art style akin to the CD movie or those Sonic Mania shorts, but this still looks nice.
That multiplayer is looking fun though! I wonder how much of the gameplay is designed with that in mind...
That multiplayer is looking fun though! I wonder how much of the gameplay is designed with that in mind...
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BlackTron
Member
If they actually did a good job and made a great game I would pay $100 but I suspect it will have serious flaws that make it another disappointment with just enough redeeming value to play anyway for cheap.
Right now, the physics look especially stilted, with Sonic sliding great distances with zero sense of momentum.
tomato shrub
Member
This might just be the trailer, but the camera needs to zoom out. Gotta go fast doesn't work when you can't see what's coming - they already made this mistake in trash like Sonic 4.
PanzerCute
Member
Bad physics? The trailer was clearly designed to show that they replicated Megadrive Sonic games physics 1 to 1 imo.
Can't be sure until we get to play the game, but I think it was pretty clear and the whole point of the first sequence in the trailer.
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BlackTron
Member
If they designed the trailer to show 1:1 physics, bad job. When Sonic was doing loop-de-loops on Genesis, the physics were the same as on flat ground, not pre-scripted actions like Sonic Adventure. Where once you trigger the script, Sonic starts moving at the predetermined speed no matter what your momentum was. Which is half of this trailer. Sonic should slow a little going into a loop and gain speed as he careens out of it...not happening here
Ristifer
Member
Yeah, I think this game is rumoured to be running on the Retro engine, isn’t it? Either way, I hope they understand that they can’t fuck up the physics for the eightieth time.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
No Shadow or Blaze bums me out a little. But I understand with this and Frontier they just wanna focus on the og characters for now. I’m cautiously optimistic. The physics will determine how good this is.
edit: oh I see every1 is already talkin about the physics. We still got Sonic 4 ptsd.
edit: oh I see every1 is already talkin about the physics. We still got Sonic 4 ptsd.
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Unknown?
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I don't think that was ever the case? He always went full speed through loops if you were going maximum speed.
Ristifer
Member
I think he’s going maximum speed through all the loops in the trailer, if I’m not mistaken.
Puscifer
Member
Never forget that Sega barely paid the guys and refused Mania 2 because they wanted to get paid more than pittence.
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BlackTron
Member
Well, the good thing is that shows old physics are in the game, unlike Generations.
But if you watch the entire trailer again and not just one tiny snippet of loop-de-loops, you'll see that it's still full of Sonic Adventure style "the game takes over" parts. At least it appears that way but I hope I am wrong.
SkylineRKR
Member
When 4k 120hz, sign me up. I think it looks fine.
WhiteWaterM00se
Member
This game looks amazing. I understand it is only a trailer and we have to see more. Yet, as a fan of the first two games and Sonic CD. This looks wonderful!
It doesn’t appear for the hardcore Sonic fan. It appears to be for kids and families. This is the exact way Sonic 2D should be.
Gives me New Super Mario Bros Wii vibes!
Need to see more. If they can truly deliver a GREAT 2D Sonic game, I think this will be one of the surprise sellers of the Holiday season!
It doesn’t appear for the hardcore Sonic fan. It appears to be for kids and families. This is the exact way Sonic 2D should be.
Gives me New Super Mario Bros Wii vibes!
Need to see more. If they can truly deliver a GREAT 2D Sonic game, I think this will be one of the surprise sellers of the Holiday season!
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Unknown?
Member
I'm still curious who the developers are. Dimps doesn't exist anymore, right? Sonic Team hasn't done a fully 2D game since S&K. Advance, Rush, etc were all outsourced.
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WhiteWaterM00se
Member
It was rumored to be apart of the Sonic team. We will have to see. There is still that rumor that Sonic Adventures Remake is coming as well.
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This might just be a coincidence. The Disney Mickey Mouse game is also 4 Player.
I wonder if Sega & Disney secretly know something about the rumored 2D Mario game. Will that new Mario game also be 4 players?
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PanzerCute
Member
Yeah you might be right, I have to watch the trailer again. I remain (cautiously) optimistic tho, I really liked what I saw.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Holammer
Member
There's a strange little drama happening because of the Superstars chara design.
Turns out they are identical to Rafa Knight's designs. A Brazilian 3D artist that's been doing cover work for Sonic comics since the late Archie run. By the looks of it, she haven't been informed or given credit.
Turns out they are identical to Rafa Knight's designs. A Brazilian 3D artist that's been doing cover work for Sonic comics since the late Archie run. By the looks of it, she haven't been informed or given credit.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Trailer got better as it went. Mildly interested with the local co op being in.
Even though I do sort of prefer "Modern" Sonic visually, I'm glad to see they're picking a design and sticking to it. Definitely looks to be something up my alley, and I like that it seems to be just a bit slower pace, more like an actual platformer.
I'll say, there's still "something" sort of missing from the visuals I feel like. Knuckles looks shockingly good in his running animations, but the stages themselves seem a bit plain? I dunno. Studiopolis Zone really set a new high-water mark, I think Sega has struggled coming up with new stages that feel as memorable as Green Hill Zone.
I'll say, there's still "something" sort of missing from the visuals I feel like. Knuckles looks shockingly good in his running animations, but the stages themselves seem a bit plain? I dunno. Studiopolis Zone really set a new high-water mark, I think Sega has struggled coming up with new stages that feel as memorable as Green Hill Zone.
X-Wing
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Saber
Gold Member
Just saw the gameplay from IGN Japan I think, and yeah its garbage.
Soundtrack is Sonic 4 levels of terrible(probably the same composer), the level design is hideous(the guy playing keep entering underground tunnel rails over and over) and the physics is clearly from to Sonic from Generations/Forces rather than closer to the classics.
Soundtrack is Sonic 4 levels of terrible(probably the same composer), the level design is hideous(the guy playing keep entering underground tunnel rails over and over) and the physics is clearly from to Sonic from Generations/Forces rather than closer to the classics.
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The Infectious Paradox
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Chris chan eatin' good boys
Fat Frog
I advertised for Google Stadia
Wrong. It's litteraly...a track from Sonic 4...a placeholder.
You should also give a closer look to the physics:
(I doubt Whitehead would praise a garbage physix)
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Sleepwalker
Member
A Sonic 2D game remake for $70?
Fat Frog
I advertised for Google Stadia
No returning stages (Source:Iizuka)A Sonic 2D game remake for $70?
60 bucks. (still pricy though)
Fat Frog
I advertised for Google Stadia
Saber
"Save for Sonic Mania, each successive 2D Sonic console experience has felt off. Whether you’re talking Sonic 4’s broken physics and momentum mechanics or the floaty and imprecise nature of the 2D sequences in 3D games like Sonic Forces, the 2D gameplay has left much to be desired in most games in the modern version of the franchise."
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Saber
Gold Member
Nowhere I though it was supposed to be a placeholder though lol
Also, its not like I remember Sonic 4 entire soundtrack(its being more than decades since I've played), so let me know about all those placeholders.
A 10 minute video is better than a 10 seconds clip and I didn't notice similarities with the classics physics. But if Whitehead did say that I'm willing to believe him.
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Lethal01
Member
A Sonic 2D game remake for $70?
It's not a remake, so I couldn't be more happy that they are making a fully priced 2D sonic game.
Fat Frog
I advertised for Google Stadia
It's probably a real Arzest/Sonic Team product. Oshima directed Sonic CD so i guess we'll have a similar game in terms of quality. (2D gameplay)
Ristifer
Member
I was thinking it felt that way in the gameplay video. Lots of tunnels, but not totally disorienting like CD could be with its level design. Hopefully, the zones have a nice variety.
Unknown?
Member
Not to mention that's incorrect. Advance 1 is very much like the Genesis games.
"Save for Sonic Mania, each successive 2D Sonic console experience has felt off. Whether you’re talking Sonic 4’s broken physics and momentum mechanics or the floaty and imprecise nature of the 2D sequences in 3D games like Sonic Forces, the 2D gameplay has left much to be desired in most games in the modern version of the franchise."