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Sony’s first State of Play of 2025 set record of over 2 million concurrent viewers

Killjoy-NL

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SlimySnake said:
nah? literally 70% of the people gave it a C or below.
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C is right in the middle though, which means mediocre. Which is quite fair, tbh.
Over here it was like 24% voting 'F'.

For as much as Gaf likes to rant about Era, it doesn't seem like this forum is much better.
 
James Sawyer Ford

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People are bitching because Sony drip feeds info on their first party studios, unlike the past. They have State of Plays that are like 4x per year. And lately they have shown off maybe 1 PlayStation studios game, with the biggest show reserved for the Summer.

If Sony went to their past methods, with one big summertime blowout, then in Summer 2025 you would have the following announcements:
  • Ghost of Yotei Trailer + Maybe Gameplay + Release date
  • Death Stranding 2 Gameplay + Release date
  • Marathon Gameplay + Release date
  • Saros Trailer (maybe Gameplay)
  • Intergalactic (maybe Gameplay)
  • Wolverine Gameplay
Many of these would potentially be revealed for the first time.

How many people would be disappointed in that kind of showcase? Hard to imagine anyone would be. Yet, because Sony picks multiple venues throughout the year, it shows up little by little....and suddenly people are somehow disappointed with each one rather than the "all at once" method.

End result is no different. You'll get the game when you get the game. Only thing that differs is how frequently you get some of the news hype cycle.
 
mckmas8808

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Ashamam said:
Glad to see rigorous polling methodology in play. Much quality analysis can be done off the back of twitter and Neogaf. /s

That is not a comment in support or not of the State of Play, just an observation that these types of polls are absolutely meaningless, they in no way are a good cross section of the market.
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Has anybody ever said how many games Starfield sold so far? Wasn't that supposed to be the GOTG for Xbox?
 
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Brucey

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James Sawyer Ford said:
People are bitching because Sony drip feeds info on their first party studios, unlike the past. They have State of Plays that are like 4x per year. And lately they have shown off maybe 1 PlayStation studios game, with the biggest show reserved for the Summer.

If Sony went to their past methods, with one big summertime blowout, then in Summer 2025 you would have the following announcements:
  • Ghost of Yotei Trailer + Maybe Gameplay + Release date
  • Death Stranding 2 Gameplay + Release date
  • Marathon Gameplay + Release date
  • Saros Trailer (maybe Gameplay)
  • Intergalactic (maybe Gameplay)
  • Wolverine Gameplay
Many of these would potentially be revealed for the first time.

How many people would be disappointed in that kind of showcase? Hard to imagine anyone would be. Yet, because Sony picks multiple venues throughout the year, it shows up little by little....and suddenly people are somehow disappointed with each one rather than the "all at once" method.

End result is no different. You'll get the game when you get the game. Only thing that differs is how frequently you get some of the news hype cycle.
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Now that ps5 is getting into its prime years with 75 million units under the belt, 3rd parties are taking more of the load content wise. So there is less pressure for 1st party announcements or releases. Like you say, 1st party will release when they are ready they aren't going to get into a panic and rush out a game before it's ready like redfall etc to try and prop up console sales. They can set the visual and quality standard bar high and 3rd parties have to try and conpete with each other to at least approach that level.
 
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mckmas8808 said:
Has anybody ever said how many games Starfield sold so far? Wasn't that supposed to be the GOTG for Xbox?
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It would have to show up as gamepass subscriber bump or something? I just don't see how any game that's on day 1 pc and Xbox gamepass could be a big seller like back before gamepass was a thing.
 
mckmas8808

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Brucey said:
It would have to show up as gamepass subscriber bump or something? I just don't see how any game that's on day 1 pc and Xbox gamepass could be a big seller like back before gamepass was a thing.
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And that's what confuses me the most about Xbox's strategy. How did Phil ever think this was gonna work?

FoxMcChief said:
And Concord was the future. Now, it’s just the past.
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I don't believe you believe Sony thought this.
 
ahtlas7

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2 million thirsty fans
Wandering Hip Hop GIF by Green Valley
 
Neolombax

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I don't agree with the metrics honestly. You could have 2 million concurrently disappointed viewers, but bad publicity is publicity I guess. Sony has sold about 70mil PS5 up to date, lets say only 50% are people who would actually follow gaming news. So thats about 5% of PS5 fans watching State of Play. Is that a good number?
 
Tiago Rodrigues

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Neolombax said:
I don't agree with the metrics honestly. You could have 2 million concurrently disappointed viewers, but bad publicity is publicity I guess. Sony has sold about 70mil PS5 up to date, lets say only 50% are people who would actually follow gaming news. So thats about 5% of PS5 fans watching State of Play. Is that a good number?
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I mean...just because you don't watch these live doesn't mean you won't be watching the trailers later. Most views com from those, not the live shows.
 
Shifty1897

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I utterly fail to see the math some are pushing here, that somehow because it was massively viewed that it was a good showcase.

If you were in the comments in the official Livestream, it was a disaster. The disappointment in the comments was nearly unanimous. Onimusha and Soros looked cool, I guess.

Most people agree this is the worst PlayStation generation. The 5 billion dollar GaaS game bet crashed and burned, leaving us with very few first party games. Microsoft's tripled down on a bad business model and sank themselves so there's no competition or reason for Sony to even try at this point. Sony hubris is now at least at peak PS3 levels, if not higher after reporting 12 billion dollars in profit. Unfortunately now we're in a place where if you want to play video games on a home console, you only have one option.

The only way you're going to pull people away from their preexisting libraries on PlayStation is if someone else comes along with a technology that provides a new undisputably superior way to play games OR a new business model that allows people to play games at prices so cheap that it doesn't make any financial sense to stick with Sony.
 
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asdasdasdbb

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Neolombax said:
I don't agree with the metrics honestly. You could have 2 million concurrently disappointed viewers, but bad publicity is publicity I guess. Sony has sold about 70mil PS5 up to date, lets say only 50% are people who would actually follow gaming news. So thats about 5% of PS5 fans watching State of Play. Is that a good number?
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The other 95% are too busy playing COD and Fortnite?
 
Gexxy1

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Getting a C in high school meant you showed up every day and remembered to bring a pencil

D or below meant you were a fucking retard

which category does this state of play fall under
 
Felessan

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James Sawyer Ford said:
How many people would be disappointed in that kind of showcase? Hard to imagine anyone would be. Yet, because Sony picks multiple venues throughout the year, it shows up little by little....and suddenly people are somehow disappointed with each one rather than the "all at once" method.

End result is no different. You'll get the game when you get the game. Only thing that differs is how frequently you get some of the news hype cycle.
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There are actually a reasons for this - short attention span and information overload of internet era.
Fans just wants their dopamine rush and they don't care about other specifics.
Anyone might notice that Sony announcement and promotion of games now squeezed much closer to launch. As too match reduced hype cycle - hype now dies and trends changing much faster than it was 10-20 years ago. And Sony goal is try to space out marketing so the peak interest in the game would be at it launch.
So once in a year big show is kinda too far apart and the bigger show is the more hype falldown it has.
 
PurePlatinum

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Astro
Intergalactic
Saras
Yotei

Could have all been in a showcase last summer. I'd rather have one big showcase than States of Play where we get 35 minutes of trash and then one cool new 1st party trailer.
 
HeisenbergFX4

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Felessan said:
There are actually a reasons for this - short attention span and information overload of internet era.
Fans just wants their dopamine rush and they don't care about other specifics.
Anyone might notice that Sony announcement and promotion of games now squeezed much closer to launch. As too match reduced hype cycle - hype now dies and trends changing much faster than it was 10-20 years ago. And Sony goal is try to space out marketing so the peak interest in the game would be at it launch.
So once in a year big show is kinda too far apart and the bigger show is the more hype falldown it has.
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People's time is very valuable

Personally I would much rather get smaller shows much more often

Give me 3 or 4 games at a time and give them a better spotlight of letting people just digest those instead of letting so many games get buried in a 45 minute show

Just my 2 cents they obviously have much better data to go on showing what people want
 
Felessan

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HeisenbergFX4 said:
Give me 3 or 4 games at a time and give them a better spotlight of letting people just digest those instead of letting so many games get buried in a 45 minute show
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It's exactly the problem.
Everyone just got too used that MS and Sony fought over core auditory, so it's hard to adapt.
Based on impression in SoP thread everyone got those "3 or 4 games" of their liking, it's just that there 20 more games for others liking and people prefer those wouldn't be there.
The SoP quite clearly structured in segments - there is classical core games, asian games, mass market games, horror games etc., structured to have a wide appeal, in expense focused representation. And cutting sections means cutting auditory.

Smaller SoP is a hurdle, one thing is that it's a mono-game SoP, but how properly pass message to mass-market (and not just some forum freaks) that SoP will focus for example on horror, fighting and gacha games, making it of zero interest for other fans? It would even be an F, where people got at least something, it would be Z----. Other thing that you might have to wait months until games interesting to you, while SoP of other genres comes and go, leaving people with fomo much harder than current one.
 
HeisenbergFX4

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Felessan said:
It's exactly the problem.
Everyone just got too used that MS and Sony fought over core auditory, so it's hard to adapt.
Based on impression in SoP thread everyone got those "3 or 4 games" of their liking, it's just that there 20 more games for others liking and people prefer those wouldn't be there.
The SoP quite clearly structured in segments - there is classical core games, asian games, mass market games, horror games etc., structured to have a wide appeal, in expense focused representation. And cutting sections means cutting auditory.

Smaller SoP is a hurdle, one thing is that it's a mono-game SoP, but how properly pass message to mass-market (and not just some forum freaks) that SoP will focus for example on horror, fighting and gacha games, making it of zero interest for other fans? It would even be an F, where people got at least something, it would be Z----. Other thing that you might have to wait months until games interesting to you, while SoP of other genres comes and go, leaving people with fomo much harder than current one.
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Maybe it was structured to have a wide appeal but they missed the mark as most deemed it quite average and maybe Sony is ok with average at this point
 
Felessan

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HeisenbergFX4 said:
The show is the games, people voted a C because of the game shown

Unless I am misunderstanding what your saying
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Show is the show and games are games.
The typical complaints for show is that - too much games, too much trailers without gameplay, 3rd party, uninteresting games for particular people etc - it's all qualities of the show - organization, presentation, pacing, not a qualities of games shown.

Like MS show - it's a good show, but there are exactly zero games I would buy. What the point of that show for me, waste my time in fancy manner?
 
HeisenbergFX4

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Felessan said:
Show is the show and games are games.
The typical complaints for show is that - too much games, too much trailers without gameplay, 3rd party, uninteresting games for particular people etc - it's all qualities of the show - organization, presentation, pacing, not a qualities of games shown.

Like MS show - it's a good show, but there are exactly zero games I would buy. What the point of that show for me, waste my time in fancy manner?
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Sorry but when people asked to rate the Playstation show and I voted it was for the games they showed

For me the games that were shown were bad

If people found 20 games they plan on buying then great for them but a large group of people voted it as an average showing

Seems people try to spin that as in a good show and for many it simply wasn't
 
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