Luke's first words should have been "Aren't you a little short to be a Sith Lord?"
Or: Girl, there is an Imperial helicopter drone behind me filming us with a zoom lens. Use that damn thing to destroy it.
Luke's first words should have been "Aren't you a little short to be a Sith Lord?"
JJ Abrams first cut of Star Wars: The Force Awakens was almost two hours and forty minutes in length. Lets be clear, thats his first cut of the movie, not the assembly edit. The film was chopped down to 2 hours and 16 minutes for the final theatrical release, with a reported 20 minutes of scenes getting axed in the last month of editing alone. A dozen full scenes were left on the cutting room floor, not to mention snippets of scenes, moments of dialogue etc. A lot of these scenes had near-complete visual effects, and some of the characters and moments removed can be seen in some of the merchandise and books. So what was left out of the final theatrical cut? Lets try to find out.
Warning: The following post contains spoilers for Star Wars: The Force Awakens. Dont read this post if you havent seen the movie.
Before I get into my exclusive information, lets first reiterate what Abrams has said about the editing process. Talking to Entertainment Weekly about one cut shot, Abrams revealed more about the process of cutting some of the scenes and moments out of the final edit of the film:
So we ended up leaving those things out. Sometimes you discover that things you would have cut off a limb to shoot on the day are absolutely inconsequential, and in fact less impactful than if you were to remove it As much as you try to kick the tires and write and shoot only what is necessary no one wants to waste anyones time when youre in the editing room you realize, for instance, that introducing the character there actually diminishes their power. Or, giving that information actually distracts you from what you should be concentrating on. Or, having that moment happen concurrent with that moment actually gets in the way of both things like that.
So what scenes and moments were cut from the final theatrical release of Star Wars: The Force Awakens? We dont know everything. We only know what weve heard from our various sources, mixed with reports from other websites, and cross-checked with the narrative presented in the novelization and other tie-in books. What follows is a list of scenes and moments that didnt make the final cut of Star Wars: The Force Awakens.
Lightsaber in Space
This one might be the most notable as it was one of the first rumors reported about the film. And while the opening sequence didnt end up in the final film, it was real.
Originally the film was supposed to open with a different scene immediately following the crawl. The camera was to pan down as a hand holding a lightsaber (or maybe just the lightsaber and not the hand its unclear). The lightsaber is is the one that belonged to Anakin Skywalker, which Luke Skywalker lost in Bespin when Darth Vader chopped off his hand. The saber originally flew by through space, heading towards a planet. This shot was cut late in the process.
General Leia and the New Republic
In the film, General Leias appearance is saved for late in the film. Leia first shows up as Han, Chewie and Finn outside Mazs castle following the First Order attack. But originally she appeared much earlier in the film. Her appearance set up the Galactic senate, with Leia having a conversation with Korr Sella (played by Maisie Richardson-Sellers), the dark-haired woman who is featured in the balcony scene when Starkiller base blows up Hosinian Prime. The Visual Dictionary features the above screenshot (right) of Korr, which appears to be a shot from this sequence in the movie. The book also explains that Leia, with a reputation twisted by corrupt politicians, relies on the young envoy to make her case for the Senate to take direct action against the First Order. While I dont know the exact extent of what was filmed, the scene is described in the novelization as follows:
As usual, Leia did not waste time on small talk: You need to go to the Senate right away. Tell them I insist that they take action against the First Order. The longer they bicker and delay, the stronger the Order becomes. She leaned toward the other woman. If they fail to take action soon, the Order will have grown so strong the Senate will be unable to do anything. It wont matter what they think. Sella indicated her understanding. With all respect: Do you think the senators will listen? I dont know. Leia bit down on her lower lip. So much time has passed. There was a time when they were at least willing to listen. And of course, the Senates makeup has changed. Some of those who were always willing to pay attention to me have retired. Some of those who have replaced them have their own agendas. She smiled ruefully. Not all senators think Im crazy. Or maybe they do. I dont care what they think about me as long as they take action. The emissary nodded. Ill do all I can to ensure the Resistance gets the hearing we deserve. But why dont you go yourself, General? An appeal of this nature is always more effective when delivered firsthand. Leias smile thinned. I might make it to the Senate, yes. I might even be able to deliver my speech. But I would never, never get out of the Hosnian system alive. I would have a terrible accident, or become the victim of some deranged radical. Or I would eat something that didnt agree with me. Or encounter someone who didnt agree with me. She composed herself. I have total confidence in you, Sella. I know you will deliver our message to the full extent of your considerable abilities. The emissary smiled back, grateful for the confidence the general was expressing.
I dont know why the scene was cut, as it probably provided clarification about the relationships between the Resistance, the New Republic and the First Order, while also setting up Korr and the Senate for the explosive sequence later in the film. Im guessing that saving Leias appearance for later gave the former Princess a better introduction and didnt slow down the momentum of the first act.
extended cut please.
extended cut please.
The film isn't really aiming to dramatically expand the Star Wars universe; not at this phase. Sure, it could have avoided falling back on carbon copies of the Rebellion and the Empire for its two major factions, but given how spectacularly the clones vs. droids thing failed to captivate audiences with the prequels, I can see why going back to the old status quo makes sense.
At the same time, we can see that they're not just bringing back the old Jedi and the old Sith; they're establishing new characters and Force traditions, and those characters bring their own unique motivations and experiences. Alongside those new characters, they're setting up new themes as well.
TFA is the one movie in the entire film series that dramatically de-emphasizes - and maybe even subtly critiques - the idea that Jedi/Force training and mentorship is important. I mean, the background of this movie is straight-up "Luke's efforts to train new Jedi failed spectacularly and actually drove the new villain to the dark side" and the turning point for the film had the villain literally telling the protagonist "you need a teacher," just before she immediately comes back and beats him purely through faith in the Force.
All previous films implanted in the audience an incredible reverence for training in the Force; this film acts as though such training is both unnecessary and problematic and that the Force's guidance alone is not only sufficient but superior.
This'll set the stage for more interesting dilemmas for the characters, even if the setpieces so far haven't necessarily been groundbreaking.
but but someone snickered in the theater when he took his mask off!!11
No need to ask for it, some of it they just do it purposely to make money. they will first milk the regular bluray, then they will release the extended cut. LOL
That shot gets criticised a lot, but I don't mind it. I like that they are showing off a real location when it could have been green screened. I like that the movie ends on a sort of discordant note.
What time frame does Rogue One take place in? With a Star Wars movie every year, it'll be interesting to know how they move forward with the universe outside of the Episodes.
Let's be real, Luke's just wondering (same as the rest of us) how the fuck she got that thing anyway.
We need more answers than she knows a CGI lady who knows a guy who knows a guy who works at Cloud City, damnit!
All total speculation/wishful thinking from here on out...Maybe he takes out/converts Kylo in the last part of the trilogy and Rey takes down Supreme Leader Snoke or something. I'm assuming Kylo is the student that turned to the dark side that Luke felt so guilty about? I don't think it was ever stated plainly, but I mean.... If so it would be cool to see them battle and Luke manage to convert him to the light side or something. Bring that arc with Luke full circle. I dunno tho, as much as they talked about Kylo still having light in him, I feel like killing Han sort of finished that off.
I also hope this talk of Rey being a Skywalker is not given any ground. Disney Princess shit all over again. But I wouldnt be surprised. The Skywalker blood heritage should end with Ben.
I wonder if they abandoned that due to the early leak..
In a weird way I think it could have worked if Luke would have used the Force to guide that saber towards Jakku and into Rey's hands and if it would have pointed them into his direction so she could find him in the end. Maybe he could have been imprisoned or unable to help otherwise. Would have made a nice bracket to the movie. I wonder if they abandoned that due to the early leak.
At one point this was concept art for the moment Rey found Luke inside the cave. Would have been a lot more ominous and mysterious.
Chewie clearly blames Leia for Han's death.
Im proud of what youre about to do, she told the girl. Rey replied in all seriousness. But youre also afraid. In sending me away, yourereminded. Leia straightened. You wont share the fate of our son. I know what were doing is right. This is how it has to be. This is how it should be. Leia smiled gently, reassuringly. I know it, too. May the Force be with you.
What are you talking about? He hugged Leia very lovingly when they were reunited.Yea Chewie ain't exactly the nicest fella in the galaxy. All he gave a shit about was Han and Leia sent him off to his death. That's a pissed off wookie.
Rey is the first truly iconic, strong woman in Star Wars. That's why she's resonated with the public so much and become arguably the most popular character.
Leia had the potential, but they ruined her in ROTJ with that embarrassing bikini slave get up, then having her wait like a damsel in distress in that teddy bear village.
Episode VII had a chance to redeem Leia, and make her tough again, but they only succeeded partially by making her a general which was OK I guess. Should she not have the same potential level of power as Luke since she's his TWIN? I wanted to see her cracking some skulls, not just "sense" that Han died. Watch her end up being Snoke lol.
Maz lived through the battle at her temple place, yeah? I was so caught up in everything else that I don't even remember.
Im proud of what youre about to do, she told the girl. Rey replied in all seriousness. But youre also afraid. In sending me away, yourereminded. Leia straightened. You wont share the fate of our son. I know what were doing is right. This is how it has to be. This is how it should be. Leia smiled gently, reassuringly. I know it, too. May the Force be with you.
Told ya!
It's about the retrieval of the Death Star plans prior to Episode IV.
Looper is not the only movie Rian Johnson's ever made. It's the least of his three, in fact. The least of his three is still very ambitious, interesting looking, and contains very good performances within it. Judging him solely off Looper (likely because it's the only one with Bruce Willis in it) isn't the greatest of calls, anymore than it would be to judge Abrams solely off Super 8.
Watch The Brothers Bloom. Especially if you're wondering how Johnson handles adventure/humor/emotion.
Leia doesn't want to be a Jedi, she'd doesn't want to end up like her father. She's happy to just sense great disturbances in the Force, and leave it at that. Carrie Fisher doing any action scenes is out of the question.
That last look almost has a hint of anger in it, too, at least imo. Anger, guilt, sadness
3 more pages at the link.
So over the top action film that prior to the reveal was a simple spy mission by spies.
Still baffles me they are making a movie about a story nobody cares about
I'm going to call my shot here. Rey is a clone
There was supposedly a scene where she is seen going with everyone to the Resistance base but she was cut because she had nothing to do there.
RIP Mara Jade
Where are the theories that Rey is a time traveler or something "other" originating from?
Where are the theories that Rey is a time traveler or something "other" originating from?
Colons.
And I'm probably just being picky, but it really felt odd she'd tell him what he just told her....Oh, gotcha. You've seen the movie more than I have so I'm sure you know what's up.
It's about the retrieval of the Death Star plans prior to Episode IV.
But Kyle Katarn already did that at the beginning of Dark Forces ;_;
What's a Kyle Katarn?
No such thing exists