Ribi
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GTA is a scam
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Squadron 42 Will Release in 2026 for PC with 30-40 Hours of Campaign, Prologue Gameplay Revealed
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Comandr
Member
Star Citizen also hasn't been in "full production" all this time. They didn't even have the fuckin buildings built for the employees to work in. YOU keep trying.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Lmaoooo yes it has. Sorry you can't get a refund
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
I hope that in 2036 you can come back here and we’ll have a conversation about how you should be given a refund. I’m guessing they’ll have run out of money and won’t be able to grant refunds, and the entire company will have been liquidated to pay off creditors. And a leak of the product that was marketed at s S42 shows how far it was from ever being a finished product.
I take no pleasure in it, but that’s the most likely scenario, here. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
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Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Did the trailer from 2015 look impressive too?
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Not more off topic than you crying that a game with release "date" will not come out.
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Cyberpunkd
Member
I see simps are early to the party.
It’s 1 hour of curated footage vs. 30-40 hours. They don’t have a game, it’s a scam.
Zathalus
Member
I don’t really care, I don’t have any stake in this. It comes out great, it never does, oh well.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
It’s literally the only thing there is to talk about, though. Because your comment above could’ve been from 2014, as if no time at all has passed. I’m just trying to spare people from giving money to this *very obvious* scam.
At some point people have to acknowledge a fact as a fact.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
A scam you can't play. Star Citizen you can. So keep crying.
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Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Well. The problem is people have given Cloud Impperiam literally hundreds of millions of dollars, and since 2012 there has been essentially nothing to show for it.
So that’s really the story, is when 2026 blows by and there’s no game, when are we gonna call it?
Comandr
Member
Please tell me how what they showed today was curated footage.
Zathalus
Member
Probably when they close down and cease active development. Sucks for those that spent money I guess.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
*Because it was a video*. Why is this so hard? Seriously.
I’ve been following this story since 2014. And then looking into it 8 years ago, I knew it was very likely a fraud. I’m genuinely interested how people still think this is perfectly normal and there’s nothing shady going on. Imagine what I think now, 8 years later. And people are still propping it up.
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Off topic slightly but it's very strange to me that this "game" has a convention. Is there anything else like it? Does any other singular game have a whole convention dedicated to it? Sounds like it's just another method to squeeze more cash out of its fans.
Comandr
Member
What? What video? We literally saw the guy playing it on stage on a computer. It crashed twice. We saw the windows environment and the bug collection report. And then, at the end, there was another in game bug that halted progress. How is this fucking curated footage? The whole point of dragging the poor guy out was purposely to demonstrate it was not a video.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
You guess? Yeah that would be a pretty big story. The largest video game fraud in history, to be sure.
Crayon
Member
Yah the way it's working is that he really does think he's making Lawrence of Arabia and it's led to this madness. Somewhere in there, he thinks they're still making a game when really it's turned into some strange type of business, almost like a mutated gaas, and it's been running for quite awhile with no need for a released game at all. Like he forgot what a game actually is.
Idk maybe I'm missing some information that would point towards intent to run a scam. Otherwise, looks to me like just one of those things... truth stranger than fiction. Homey really thought it would be cool to be able to buy ships for comically large sums to establish their rarity, and years later wtf people are paying thousands of dollars.
Of course he wants an all-star cast. That would be... better, right? Better. Bigger. More. Most. Everything. Forever.
We've seen crazier things happen without ill intent. They happen to be making more money than they know what to do with and that demands an extra critical eye, and ultimately I don't know what's in his head, but I'm mostly seeing a runaway train and delusions of grandeur.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Remember the Anthem reveal from 2017? There was no game, it was created just for the E3 reveal. They can make anything appear as anything they want.
Comandr
Member
This is seriously 5G in your covid shots levels of conspiracy here. You can literally see the guy on stage in today's demo. The camera is next to him while he's playing. I don't- I can't with you.
Ponderling
Member
"Squadron 42 Will Release in 2026"
nowhat
Member
I don't know, I need a roadmap to a roadmap up my own ass to reach that answer.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Look, if the sentence “Squadron 42 will release in 2026” doesn’t at least raise an eyebrow with you, like either you haven’t been following this company for very long, or you are one of the most blindly optimistic people who has ever lived.
Eight-month investigation lifts the lid on Star Citizen's troubled development
Chris Roberts says he's "much happier" with the state of Cloud Imperium Games these days, but problems persist.
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Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
I don't consider the 3 Ubisoft, EA, Insomniac games released over a 15 year period to be anything other than slop. If Star Citizen never materializes, my brain will categorize it alongside Assassins Creed, Spider Man, and Dragon Age. Zeros. But if it does...If the development of game outlives your lifespan, you won’t either.
The 5 - 6 year dev cycle, release mediocre product, rinse and repeat model has been holding the industry back.
The Star Citizen subreddit seems to have gotten much more positive since the 3.8 update. And again, the game seems to be building momentum over it's 12 year history which suggests they're doing something right.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Yeah. You see, they can’t say 2025 because they don’t actually have any idea when or if whatever this game really is behind the scenes may ever be able to come out as a finished product. 2026 is far enough out that they can be like “oh thank God” and not really be under any pressure for awhile.
I don’t think 2026 is any more likely than 2016 was.
Star Citizen's Squadron 42 campaign won't release this year
Cloud Imperium Games still has some work to do.
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Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Look, I hope you’re right! Because the alternative is a massive fraud on the scale of hundreds of millions of dollars.I don't consider the 3 Ubisoft, EA, Insomniac games released over a 15 year period to be anything other than slop. If Star Citizen never materializes, my brain will categorize it alongside Assassins Creed, Spider Man, and Dragon Age. Zeros. But if it does...
The 5 - 6 year dev cycle, release mediocre product, rinse and repeat model has been holding the industry back.
The Star Citizen subreddit seems to have gotten much more positive since the 3.8 update. And again, the game seems to be building momentum over it's 12 year history which suggests they're doing something right.
Eight-month investigation lifts the lid on Star Citizen's troubled development
Chris Roberts says he's "much happier" with the state of Cloud Imperium Games these days, but problems persist.
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nowhat
Member
In related news, 100% of those polled in /r/scientology agree that Xenu is a bad dude.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
This was published in 2016:
www.pcgamer.com
Eight-month investigation lifts the lid on Star Citizen's troubled development
Chris Roberts says he's "much happier" with the state of Cloud Imperium Games these days, but problems persist.
Comandr
Member
You sure like digging up these old articles. It was published 8 years ago and nothing has come of it. The employees are happy, the fans are happy, and the game has more support now than ever; what's your fuckin point? It seems like the only people that are mad, are, ironically, the people that don't have any involvement in the game at all. Like wtf? Just move on with your life.This was published in 2016:
Eight-month investigation lifts the lid on Star Citizen's troubled development
Chris Roberts says he's "much happier" with the state of Cloud Imperium Games these days, but problems persist.
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Dr. Wilkinson
Member
We’ll talk again in 2026. When the next date becomes 2028 or 2029. You pick the date.
Well, that’s if Cloud Imperium hasn’t been liquidated yet.
nowhat
Member
That's... the point?
Comandr
Member
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
I was beginning to wonder if maybe I was just nuts.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Wow, 2026 — I’m assuming that means the end of 2026, which is still pretty disappointing. Cloud Imperium’s expenditures must be massive, considering the number of studios and staff they’ve brought on board. It’s hard to see how this level of investment is sustainable, but with nearly $700-800 million in total funding, who the heck knows anymore.
Still, if they’re really committed to this deadline, hopefully it’s set far enough out that the teams don’t have to crunch like mofos. How many copies of Squadron 42 do they need to sell to recoup costs? It's been clear from day one that they’re banking on Star Citizen to save their bacon. I love the ambition, technology, and engineering behind all this, so as I've said before, I hope they can pull it off.
Still, if they’re really committed to this deadline, hopefully it’s set far enough out that the teams don’t have to crunch like mofos. How many copies of Squadron 42 do they need to sell to recoup costs? It's been clear from day one that they’re banking on Star Citizen to save their bacon. I love the ambition, technology, and engineering behind all this, so as I've said before, I hope they can pull it off.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Don’t worry, it’s not actually coming out in 2026, anyway. They’ve been doing this since 2016.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
You are nuts. You are super concerned about a game that will never come out.
ShadowNate
Member
ETA: Current year + 2 years is a safe bet for the Scam Citizen bingo card of every CitCon
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
I'm a $40 Kickstarterer so yeah I know about the timelines. And the whole shebang started in late 2012.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
The last time CI announced a release date for Squadron 42 was in 2018. They don't do this all the time like many here want to believe.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Seems to me the key question is what’s different now vs when they promised it back in 2014? 2016? Back in 2018? What’s different now, why is *this* time the one that is really gonna happen?
Comandr
Member
It's obvious. Previously they just showed a pre-recorded gameplay segment, and said "It's totally coming, you guys." This time we actually got to see a live human person start the game, make a character, and play for an hour. Bugs and crashes and of its beta development cycle glory. If they had just shown another carefully constructed video of "gameplay" it would be a lot harder to swallow.
ShadowNate
Member
Answer the Call
That damn phone has been ringing since 2016.
That damn phone has been ringing since 2016.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
It’s not even really that I’m concerned about the game. I don’t have any money pledged. I think what concerns me is how many people still are buying this anymore, like how many more failed deadlines and years have to pass?
