cash_longfellow
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I hope this is a lead in to a new Nier being announced this week.
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TheThreadsThatBindUs
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Complistic
Member
I'm in for whatever this game wants to do. I had such a fun time with it. It's second only to Astrobot so far this year for me.
Orangee
Neo Member
He always talks like that.
I didnt enjoy stellar blade because I treat videogames as art, and I dont see the point of art that is not creative. Just do what has been done again, the mass will happily consume It. Doesnt matter If they are 'self aware' about ripping off or not, it's still stupid lol
Orangee
Neo Member
Navtra promised me NieR 3 in September. I think I trust her about Square Enix lol
Angry_Megalodon
Banned
Either your concept of "rip-off" is completely off the mark or you are just lying.
The music of Stellar Blade is not only superb but varied and different from Nier's.
The gameplay couldn't be any more different. Actually SB's combat is its own thing, unlike most Soulslike games nowadays.
The world structure / game loop also departs from Nier.
So for you rip-off is having some droid sexy girl killing shit in a post-apocalyptic setting. Just say you don't like the game and that's it. Calling it a ripoff is the same level of wrong as the Zelda fanboys breaking PS consoles at the Genshin reveal.
nnytk
Member
As if recycling ideas and popular culture isn't something prevalent throughout the history of art...
Not to mention art and creativity and videogames and entertainment being very different things that are interwoven or overlapping with each other.
I wonder how you'd look at Jeff Koons' work. Or Richter's political paintings compared to his abstract work.
Anyway, I should probably not delve into a discussion about contemporary art on a gaming forum, talking about a game that focuses heavily on titillation.
ElFenomeno
Member
What I find surprising is that the game didn't get one single discount on PS store since its release back in April.
It must sell pretty well, right?
It must sell pretty well, right?
Orangee
Neo Member
It's not only about NieR. I played shit tons of games so I can instantly see the things they ripped off. Literally every single thing in this game is a rip off of something else, they didnt bother making something of their own in their game. Just take everything that was already done, put It into the blender and here you go - Stellar Blade.
Kinda reminded me of the time when I played the beta of concord and instantly noticed how all the special attacks are 1:1 rip offs from Overwatch and Garden Warfare. This industry is creatively bunkrupt or maybe I am just wearing out and need to take a break. I'll go play xenogears or something.
Do you guys want me to make a whole thread about how this game straight up rips off other games 1:1?
I dont know If I care that much about this game, but I am not willing to loose a convo, and proving this would require me to install some games again (including mid blade) to make comparsion screenshots and clips, and that will take me a bit of time.
I didnt see anyone else talk about this game beyond the protagonist (because It has nothing else to offer) so I might be the first one to try and do It.
We can also throw anecdotal arguments onto eachother in this thread aswell, but I dont see this nessecarly as productive.
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Orangee
Neo Member
Recycling ideas is not bad. But are you adding anything from yourself? Something new? Even a small thing that others will also later build on. Lets remember that all art is an inspiration from other art.
Yoko Taro watched Evangelion and made NieR Automata. You could notice some small similarities, but It's not near a rip off.
Keiichiro Toyama and Fumito Ueda both made their games (Gravity Rush/ICO) because they were inspired by the art they saw. Then later they filled It with their own creative ideas. But they needed the first 'spark'.
Meanwhile stellar blade is a shallow blender mix of every trope from known games. The story, narrative and presentation is so insanely stupid, that I am questioning now a lot of things about our industry. If simple recycles like this are accepted, then AI might aswell make games for us. Because stellar blade seems to be a game taken from such a generative AI. A more advanced one, from the future, of course lol
Oh, and about the rest of your post. I am down to discuss art on a different forum If we get a chance to. Everyone has a different perspective and that's fine.
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Aenima
Member
From the trailer it just looks like an outfit/skin for Eve and the drone to turn her into 2B. The cutscene shown with 2B is part of the normal game.
The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
Was going to say the same. Crazy. I kept waiting but at this point i might as well just wait for the PC version and get it off cdkeys or somewhere cheaper.
DeepEnigma
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Reizo Ryuu
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Aenima
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jzbadblood
Neo Member
I would like to see this evidence compiled.
nnytk
Member
Yeah I don't think we'll agree with each other and I don't want to spend too much time engaging on this forum in taste-related discussion.
But maybe you'll be happy to hear that I've worked for over 10 years in the contemporary art world as an artist and have an MA in visual art.
Maybe the fact that someone with my background appreciates degenerate guilty pleasure kitsch, can give you a different perspective on it
Also, English is not my mother tongue or how do you say that.
Orangee
Neo Member
Well the point of debates is not nessecarly to force others to think like you do, but to share different perspectives and perhaps let you look at the topic at a slightly different angle. It's fine to have your views challenged from time to time.Yeah I don't think we'll agree with each other and I don't want to spend too much time engaging on this forum in taste-related discussion.
But maybe you'll be happy to hear that I've worked for over 10 years in the contemporary art world as an artist and have an MA in visual art.
Maybe the fact that someone with my background appreciates degenerate guilty pleasure kitsch, can give you a different perspective on it
Also, English is not my mother tongue or how do you say that.
Everyone is allowed to enjoy whatever they want for all I care. I am happy you do enjoy It. I remember playing and kinda enjoying spiderman 2 for example. I dont remember anything from It anymore, as It was a forgetable slop, but It was fine enough to 'consume' It and enjoy It, have a laugh with your brain off, back when It launched.
And yeah, English is not my native language aswell. (And congrats for your achivements btw)
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cash_longfellow
Member
Let's throw enough money at them and they will.
That Twitter post sounds like a low key shot at Square Enix
nnytk
Member
Thank you!
I remember growing up and studying arts, it used to be kind of shameful to be into gaming or cyberculture esthetics and it's an absolute joy for me to see how teenagers these days are nearly bombarded with eastern exotism in the form of manga, anime, kpop and games.
It's a lot of stimuli though, and now, more than ever, I find myself drawn to minimalism and abstract art more than ever before. Soothes the mind.
Nickolaidas
Member
Bartski
Gold Member
diffusionx
Gold Member
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Nickolaidas
Member
Modding community will be working overtime once it hits Steam in a few months.
SolidQ
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rickybooby87
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Reaseru
Member
Killer body... A body that kills women because men look at it. Are you sure that's isn't AI?
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Nickolaidas
Member
Yes.
miklonus
Banned
When "does" this come out? Between the DLC, and the alleged PC release, and then this release date of the PS5 Pro three days from today on Thursday, when the fuck is this thing coming out on PC? "A few months" is vague as shit, and never say "never", but I doubt that a DLC update for a platform exclusive would release so close to the debut of or on a NEW platform, that news platform being the PC, as well as the release of the PS5's debut itself.
This recent update from the past week/two weeks for the PS5 Pro
The release "of" the PS5 Pro
The DLC that has no release date
The unconfirmed PC version without a release date.
That's a lot messier than I expected.
Speaking of all things South Korean and titty-based, The First Descendant is about to remove its Halloween-themed DLC the day of or the day before the Pro drops. So not only will you have no time to experiment with it, i.e. buy it and de ide it, but being TFD costumes is hard as is because them niggas be chargin' a fortune for that shit.
The god damn Pro is already expensive as is, and "First" is the only game I know that charges more for one character, than a season pass or character pass or expansion pack or fucking deluxe edition or ultimate edition would charge you for their shit.
Buyer be educated.
nial
Member
Lol, relax. When Sony wants to.
Spider-Man 2 is being ported a bit over a year after its original release, so around April or so.
miklonus
Banned
The fuck does that mean? You ain't there fuckin' lawyer. There's no official information out there, the guy I quoted mentioned the potential PC release, so I simply asked and wondered when it was coming out. This game all of a sudden has a lot of things lined up, even if half of those things are confirmed with no release date, and unconfirmed with no release date.
nial
Member
Salz01
Member
The only mod that would be remotely interesting is a Tachy mod. Not sure why they haven’t released a skin for her.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Probably Q2 2025 if I had to guess. A few months away could mean 3 months or 18 months with these companies.
Nickolaidas
Member
ShiftUp confirmed a PC version, and also said it will come sooner rather than later.
After months of waiting, the Stellar Blade PC port is finally coming in the "near future"
Shift Up finally says the Stellar Blade PC port is coming in the "near future," and it's confident this version will outsell the PS5 one.
www.pcgamesn.com
My guess is it'll be announced once the DLC is released for the PS5.
So calm your tits.
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Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Is this $10 Nier DLC just to be able to collect cans for Emil's shop for the Nier items? Think I may pass . . .
The Saint
Member
I love this game and it is my Goty this year, but for the longest time I was stumped as to there being something about the game that I wish it did better and then it finally dawned n me that Eve is so sexy, but do to the lack of a game over screen 99 percent of the time, It leaves a lot to be desired for a Ryona fan like me. Closest it came to that Nierly at the very end of the game involving other characters like you, but even that was robbed from me. Still a 10/10 game for me though. I hope the next game gives us K.O animations and Angel enemies to fight as random and boss level enemies.