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Stock-Age: Stocks, Options and Dividends oh my!

Celcius

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Lately I've been doing more research on investing and stocks. I've been looking into index funds and the boglehead way of investing. Some of the stocks that look interesting to me include VOO, VTI, VXUS, FXAIX, and FSKAX. I haven't started investing yet though outside of my roth 401k. Currently saving for a house but I guess I'll get to investing someday. In the meanwhile just reading and learning more.
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Made some money on JD.com and Baidu. Looking to make it a triple win as I bought some VIPS. Wont last forever. But hoping these stocks got another 20-30% in them.
 

dave_d

Member
Lately I've been doing more research on investing and stocks. I've been looking into index funds and the boglehead way of investing. Some of the stocks that look interesting to me include VOO, VTI, VXUS, FXAIX, and FSKAX. I haven't started investing yet though outside of my roth 401k. Currently saving for a house but I guess I'll get to investing someday. In the meanwhile just reading and learning more.
Looking at those index funds you're basically figuring out the concept of a three fund portfolio which they talk about a lot on bogleheads. (Pretty much a standard three fund would be VTIAX, VTSAX, VBTLX) Pretty much once I get a new job (currently unemployed) my plan is little more than max out the 401k and put extra money in a three fund. (Pretty much a long term game but should get reasonable returns over the next 6-9 years.)
 

HoodWinked

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Absolute monster gains in the stock market,

Elon up, i mean Tesla up +14.91%

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StreetsofBeige

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Watch out for companies with lots of foreign imports into the US. If trumps tariffs threat is real, they’ll sink. In return domestic skewed companies do well unless foreign countries do it back.

Find companies who focus on lots of their sales domestically made and sold within.

US energy makers might go on a run.

Companies with lots of debt who can get a big boost on corporate tax cuts should do well too. More profits means more opportunity to pay off debts or pay dividends.
 
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Watch out for companies with lots of foreign imports into the US. If trumps tariffs threat is real, they’ll sink. In return domestic skewed companies do well unless foreign countries do it back.

Find companies who focus on lots of their sales domestically made and sold within.

US energy makers might go on a run.

Companies with lots of debt who can get a big boost on corporate tax cuts should do well too. More profits means more opportunity to pay off debts or pay dividends.
You ever heard of this little American EV company? Founded in California and they still have their HQ in Texas today. Their factories are in Fremont, CA and Austin, TX. All domestically sold vehicles are made domestically, with a significant proportion of domestically sourced parts. Also their CEO is a prominent supporter of the new President-elect. You should check them out sometime, might be a good investment next 4 years
 

Celcius

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The fed keeps cutting rates and the interest rate on my HYSA keeps going down
FeelsBadMan
 
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Mistake

Member
I was dumb and didn't think about investing recently. Completely slipped my mind. Kind of worried things will dip now
 
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GHG

Gold Member
I was dumb and didn't think about investing recently. Completely slipped my mind. Kind of worried things will dip now

If you're not invested yet then things dropping is the best case scenario for you, it would represent an opportunity, rather than buying in to an overheated and frothy market.
 
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Mistake

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If you're not invested yet then things dropping is the best case scenario for you, it would represent an opportunity, rather than buying in to an overheated and frothy market.
I have a good idea when the next few bumps will be, but yeah, need timing to get in now
 

GHG

Gold Member
I have a good idea when the next few bumps will be, but yeah, need timing to get in now

If you're investing for the long run then there's not really any need to time anything (assuming you're purchasing index funds and not individual stocks). Buy heavier on the dips, load up during the crashes, but other than that there's nothing else you need to do other than just periodically put money in.
 

Paltheos

Member
The fed keeps cutting rates and the interest rate on my HYSA keeps going down
FeelsBadMan

What are you falling down to? My bank's kept a stable 5.00% APY on my money market account for... at least a year (two?). Haven't noticed any differences in the climate but I haven't been paying attention either.
 

TVexperto

Member
Hi, there was a website where it showed on a black background very minimalistic all bitcoin charts ... I cant seem to find it anymore
 

Paltheos

Member
My MM account rate dropped from 5.0% to 4.75% some time this month. It's possible further cuts are on the way but considering the bigger Fed rate cut was over two months ago, I'd certainly find it odd for more of a change on my account to be so delayed.
 

Mistake

Member
Can someone explain to me the difference between a stop order and limit order? They sound pretty much the same to me, with the difference being that limit orders have more versatility. Is that right?
 

GHG

Gold Member
Can someone explain to me the difference between a stop order and limit order? They sound pretty much the same to me, with the difference being that limit orders have more versatility. Is that right?

I assume you mean the difference between a stop order and a stop limit order? Because you would rarely (if ever) use a stop order and a limit order interchangeably.
If so:

Stop order will get you out at the next available price, even if it happens to be a huge amount below the price you set. It essentially becomes a market order at the point your stop price has been breached. Essenially you will be out of the position no matter what.

A stop limit order will attempt to get you out at the price you specify the moment it is hit. If there isn't enough liquidity at that price in order to execute your sell order then your broker will wait until there is at that price (or better). At the point your specified price has been breached a limit order is created at that price. How long that sits there for if the conditions are met you will be able to specify at the point of creating the order.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Can someone explain to me the difference between a stop order and limit order? They sound pretty much the same to me, with the difference being that limit orders have more versatility. Is that right?
Always buy or sell a stock at a specified Limit price (which you decide). This ensures you dont get burned buying/selling at the market price. Stocks with lots of trading shouldnt be a big deal, but you for sure want to do limit transactions for low float stocks. All it takes is some jackass at the wrong time for you buying stock at $1, and you sell at market price which you think is $30. But his bid at that market price timing is $1. So you got burned. This is probably why in pre market and after hours you get some wacky shit people buying and selling at weird low or or high prices. Some guy probably did a market order and got hooped.

A Stop price is when the stock hits that price you specify, so it goes through. So lets say a stock is $80. You can put in a stop order that says if the stock hits $70, you sell. Or it's set at $90 and it sells too. You set a price so you dont sit there all week waiting for it or doing manual orders. The system does it for you when it actually happens.


KEY TAKEAWAYS​

  • A limit order instructs your broker to fill your buy or sell order at a specific price or better.
  • A stop order will activate a market order when a certain price has been met.
  • Although stop orders avoid the risks of no fills and partial fills, you may end up with a lower or higher price than you expected.
  • A stop-limit order combines the features of both a limit and a stop order.
 
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Mistake

Member
I assume you mean the difference between a stop order and a stop limit order? Because you would rarely (if ever) use a stop order and a limit order interchangeably.
If so:

Stop order will get you out at the next available price, even if it happens to be a huge amount below the price you set. It essentially becomes a market order at the point your stop price has been breached. Essenially you will be out of the position no matter what.

A stop limit order will attempt to get you out at the price you specify the moment it is hit. If there isn't enough liquidity at that price in order to execute your sell order then your broker will wait until there is at that price (or better). At the point your specified price has been breached a limit order is created at that price. How long that sits there for if the conditions are met you will be able to specify at the point of creating the order.

Always buy or sell a stock at a specified Limit price (which you decide). This ensures you dont get burned buying/selling at the market price. Stocks with lots of trading shouldnt be a big deal, but you for sure want to do limit transactions for low float stocks. All it takes is some jackass at the wrong time for you buying stock at $1, and you sell at market price which you think is $30. But his bid at that market price timing is $1. So you got burned. This is probably why in pre market and after hours you get some wacky shit people buying and selling at weird low or or high prices. Some guy probably did a market order and got hooped.

A Stop price is when the stock hits that price you specify, so it goes through. So lets say a stock is $80. You can put in a stop order that says if the stock hits $70, you sell. Or it's set at $90 and it sells too. You set a price so you dont sit there all week waiting for it or doing manual orders. The system does it for you when it actually happens.


KEY TAKEAWAYS​

  • A limit order instructs your broker to fill your buy or sell order at a specific price or better.
  • A stop order will activate a market order when a certain price has been met.
  • Although stop orders avoid the risks of no fills and partial fills, you may end up with a lower or higher price than you expected.
  • A stop-limit order combines the features of both a limit and a stop order.
Alright, so stop orders are do or die, limit orders are best case scenario. I think I got it, thanks. I'm currently poking around the new robinhood
 

GHG

Gold Member
Alright, so stop orders are do or die, limit orders are best case scenario. I think I got it, thanks. I'm currently poking around the new robinhood

Use limit orders when entering a position, always.

For setting risk management exit points, a stop limit order is far superior to a basic stop order, but be aware it's not guaranteed to get executed immediately, even if your exit price is hit.
 

AndrewRyan

Member
Nintendo jumped .50 cents this morning, which is a lot for this stock on on a day with a lot of red. Was excited for a moment but then saw volume is really low cause of Thanksgiving week so probably nothing. Slow news day.
 

MikeM

Member
RDDT continues to 🚀. By far my best stock pick. Trying to determine if she is a long term hold a la Meta or not.

My RCAT holding is new and risky. Seeing what the next six months look like with this.

My AMD doing AMD things with its stock. 😥

Newest holding for me- SMCI got a nice boost today. Lots of risk here but some potential decent, quick upside if it passes some hurdles.
 

Go_Ly_Dow

Member
I sold all my positions and have bought 1% of all stock for Cap-XX #CPX, listed in the UK at an average share price of 0.125p.


Expectation is it will sit in the 0.11-0.13p range for a few weeks and after push on. Am looking for a hefty return in 2025.

You can keep track of my emotional state and decision making skills by following this. :messenger_tongue:

 
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AJUMP23

Parody of actual AJUMP23
Lately I've been doing more research on investing and stocks. I've been looking into index funds and the boglehead way of investing. Some of the stocks that look interesting to me include VOO, VTI, VXUS, FXAIX, and FSKAX. I haven't started investing yet though outside of my roth 401k. Currently saving for a house but I guess I'll get to investing someday. In the meanwhile just reading and learning more.

Just buy the S&P 500 index and you will be fine. Leave your money there and let it grow.
 
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Yep.

If you want a position with outsized SpaceX exposure you're far better off going for DXYZ:


Close ended fund? 2.5% management fee? That sounds like a scam.

“For instance, SpaceX accounted for about 13% of Baron Partners’ BPTRX assets as of December 2023. Since mutual funds are priced at the fund’s NAV, an investor buying Baron Partners shares would effectively pay $97 per share for the SpaceX position, while a Destiny Tech100 investor would pay $864 for a share of SpaceX owing to the funds 900% premium to NAV.”

 

GHG

Gold Member
Close ended fund? 2.5% management fee? That sounds like a scam.

“For instance, SpaceX accounted for about 13% of Baron Partners’ BPTRX assets as of December 2023. Since mutual funds are priced at the fund’s NAV, an investor buying Baron Partners shares would effectively pay $97 per share for the SpaceX position, while a Destiny Tech100 investor would pay $864 for a share of SpaceX owing to the funds 900% premium to NAV.”


I wouldn't recommend it as a "buy and forget" fund, but it follows SpaceX sentiment far more closely than BPTRX does.

In fact I wouldn't even recommend anyone jumps in now, it's massively over-extended, but it's one to keep an eye on.

If you're going to dabble, allocate no more than a few of percent of your capital.
 

Tams

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I wouldn't recommend it as a "buy and forget" fund, but it follows SpaceX sentiment far more closely than BPTRX does.

In fact I wouldn't even recommend anyone jumps in now, it's massively over-extended, but it's one to keep an eye on.

If you're going to dabble, allocate no more than a few of percent of your capital.
Betting Mads Mikkelsen GIF by James Bond 007
 
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I wouldn't recommend it as a "buy and forget" fund, but it follows SpaceX sentiment far more closely than BPTRX does.

In fact I wouldn't even recommend anyone jumps in now, it's massively over-extended, but it's one to keep an eye on.

If you're going to dabble, allocate no more than a few of percent of your capital.

I would recommend reading that article and paying attention to what they say about NAV, or net asset value. It’s a little over my head as a retail trader with a day job but it sounds like you’re massively overpaying for those shares of Spacex versus what you’re getting with BPTRX.

BPTRX is one of, if not the best performing mutual fund of all time.
 

GHG

Gold Member
I would recommend reading that article and paying attention to what they say about NAV, or net asset value. It’s a little over my head as a retail trader with a day job but it sounds like you’re massively overpaying for those shares of Spacex versus what you’re getting with BPTRX.

BPTRX is one of, if not the best performing mutual fund of all time.

If you want to buy and hold one forever then BPTRX is the better of the two by a mile, that is not up for dispute. However what you're getting there is far more diversified.

If you want something that will grant you more exposure to SpaceX for a period of time (at the cost of more volatility, feed and uncertainty) then DXYZ is the one to go for.

Compare how the two have performed since Trump won the election and you will see what I mean.
 

Mistake

Member
I bought some CVS thinking it was at a nice dip, only to get hit with bad news 3 hours later. Just my luck I buy in the ONE DAY when it breaks the 5 year holding line 🤦‍♂️

I'd stay away from anything pharmacy or medical related the next 2-3 years
 

Rat Rage

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Anyone know some good news sources to follow regarding upcoming new crypto currency launches? Speaking of which, does anyone know some good upcoming crypto launches to keep an eye on?
 
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