Street Fighter X Tekken balance patch details
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ProtoCents
Banned
Just imagine if this patch puts SFxT back as the fighting game.
heliconsoul
Member
Interesting. Hope they can make some decent changes to the game.
What's a shame though is even if they do fix the majority of problems the FGC will still tear this game a new arse on sight.
What's a shame though is even if they do fix the majority of problems the FGC will still tear this game a new arse on sight.
The problem is that they've been burned once hard on it.
I am hoping that if they keep up maintenance on the game more people will actually give it a chance instead of, you know, blindly hating on it.
Karsticles
Member
It won't happen because too many people already sold their copies. How many people will go re-buy it for a patch?Just imagine if this patch puts SFxT back as the fighting game.
I'm bitter that Capcom is putting so much work into this failure instead of supporting a successful fighting game like Marvel.
Cloudius12
Member
Hopefully it will revive the game. I'm actually looking forward to the new characters.
I am sure they would put more work into marvel if they could but it doesn't work that way. It marvel has other plans than people just have to accept that. I'd love more stuff too but that is just the way it is, sadly.
SolarPowered
Member
The most important thing is that people are playing the shit out of Mahvel.
Capcom can support whatever they like so long as we got people on the better game.
Why would they invest in a game that doesn't have a built in store with tons of DLC features already set up!
Change a few values here and there.. and you got 50 more gems you can sell!
Sir Garbageman
Member
Sold my copy after a month. Hated gems and the online sound glitch was basically unbearable. I was so hyped for the game too, was hoping for the perfect middle ground between SF4:AE and UMvC3.
crimsonspider89
Banned
Marvel has nothing to do with it. Did Marvel get a 20k and a free car tourney? No. Has to do with the higher ups at Capcom.
Us not getting an update is fine but a game who sold much less and is much more hated is getting updates and a huge tourney is just bullshit.
Us not getting an update is fine but a game who sold much less and is much more hated is getting updates and a huge tourney is just bullshit.
Space Runaway
Member
Slowing the gray life recovery is good but the other two won't help the problem much. Damage is already super high as it is and the only thing I think needs to be changed about the timer is stopping it during Supers. Making it slower will just make matches even longer.
Whatever they do, I hope they don't go too far and make it another X-Factor.
Also please don't hit Julia with the vagina tax...=/
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
No matter how sour the FGC acts over a game, comebacks are always possible.
If SFxT gets fixed, and people play it, that is all that matters. People will rebuy used copies, train, whatever is required for competition and to stay with the scene.
SF3 was the SFxT of its day; it took serious adjustments and revision, and several years, but the game finally got respect and became heavily played.
The changes they're making so far sound good. They're investigating the correct things to adjust to further tune the game. Whether people like to hear about it or not, the new producer is being frank and seems to have his shit together.
One thing they DO need to address if they're going to continue patching it, is a better gem selection system. Something went doubly wrong there, with their original player profile / USB stick proposal vanishing in the night. Just put in the interface work and get a sensible selection window for gems on the offline versus mode screen.
If SFxT gets fixed, and people play it, that is all that matters. People will rebuy used copies, train, whatever is required for competition and to stay with the scene.
SF3 was the SFxT of its day; it took serious adjustments and revision, and several years, but the game finally got respect and became heavily played.
The changes they're making so far sound good. They're investigating the correct things to adjust to further tune the game. Whether people like to hear about it or not, the new producer is being frank and seems to have his shit together.
One thing they DO need to address if they're going to continue patching it, is a better gem selection system. Something went doubly wrong there, with their original player profile / USB stick proposal vanishing in the night. Just put in the interface work and get a sensible selection window for gems on the offline versus mode screen.
TheSpoiler
Member
We put up with Marvel and SF4 on release, I'm sure the FGC will return to SFxT once balance returns to the game. You'd be surprised at how many people will put up with the DLC if the game itself is good. Hell, I rebought Marvel 3 because many of my complains were fixed.
Vita release and what not. Don't worry, Darkstalkers is next.
R_thanatos
Member
I really hope it will.Just imagine if this patch puts SFxT back as the fighting game.
Huw_Dawson
Member
No it isn't. Damage is far too low.
You should be losing 50% of your life when you're hit by something. You compensate for this with being able to tag out and regen some of that life. This game takes the tag system from TTT/TTT2, and the reason why it works in those games is because Tekken can often be a game of "guess wrong twice and die". The fact that this only has SF4 levels of damage when you're probably going to have to do at least one and a half times that to get to KO is absurd.
Are you referring to Street Fighter's 25th anniversary tournament?
The Abominable Snowman
Member
Nothing about the almighty light poke?
Absolutely correct. The damage scaling system that they ported over wholesale from SFIV just doesn't work for this game.
Sarcastic Response
Banned
So be honest FGC-GAF, what would this game have to fix in your eyes to be competitive and get people hype again? My main beef with the game was that it was just so boring. I don't know if it was the magic series aspect of it being applied to SF or how kinda convoluted the whole combo system was altogether, etc. I'm going to give it one more chance come July 31st and if it doesn't impress me, it's getting sold.
Bullcrap, currently it's the capcom fighting jam of it's day.
Maybe if all the assets were new, and the engine was new I could see your point.
Huw_Dawson
Member
It's kinda the damage scaling system, but IMO it should extend to stuff like SPDs. Zangief getting an SPD should be a defining moment of the round, but in SFxT it doesn't do much damage IIRC.
Also, BUFF. THROWS.
BUFF.
THROWS.
BUFF.
THROWS.
Make them faster and more damaging. This isn't Flower Collecting X Talking Out Your Issues, it's a fighting game, and since SF2 fighting games have had throws in to stop people from playing passively.
giancarlo123x
Banned
Thanks but no thanks. Update my Marvel though please.
base shagohod
Member
Good shit.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
The game needs to not be balanced around them existing
And no don't fucking buff geifs throws damage are you on crack? That shit has so much range. Nerf it's range if you are gonna buff it's damage
crimsonspider89
Banned
No. SFxT is having there own tourney where the winner gets 20k and a free car. Don't care what for. SSF4 AE2012 would be fine since it was a successful game. But what about Marvel? Why not do a big tourney for it? Crosscounter is another example.
That is what BS. Even after Marvel outsold SFxT it is still being treated like the red headed step child and the execs at Capcom are OBVIOUSLY trying to establish SFxT as the crossover.
EDIT: And SFxT needs: Throw buff, more characters need AAs, currently too many Hakans running around. They addressed some of the issues but still too many.
That is what BS. Even after Marvel outsold SFxT it is still being treated like the red headed step child and the execs at Capcom are OBVIOUSLY trying to establish SFxT as the crossover.
EDIT: And SFxT needs: Throw buff, more characters need AAs, currently too many Hakans running around. They addressed some of the issues but still too many.
But why? With the exclusion of assist gems, why the gem hate at all?
DR2K
Banned
Pay gems being more powerful, general system still balanced around gems over all, tournament unfriendly because of the long set up time, etc. . .
LunaticLMD
Member
I believe they are nerfing Rolento's and Raven's LP.
I thought the deal with the pay gems is that they used 2 gem slots instead of 1 and did not last as long as the other gems and if that was the case, couldn't they just ban pay gems? Also what happened with being able to select your gems at the character select screen? ...Come to think of it, no one ever sets their controls at the character select screen despite the fact they can from what I have seen.
The Ace of Knaves
Banned
Not a chance in hell.Just imagine if this patch puts SFxT back as the fighting game.
ihearthawthats
Banned
(u)mvc3 was developed by a different team, and it was already stated at evo that they have moved on to other projects.
i, for one, am glad that they're sticking with it rather than abandoning it. for one thing, abandoning the game may not be the best message in regards to their new relations with namco.
as much as people seem to hate disc based updates, i really hope that it gets a significant overhaul similar to umvc3. patches can improve the game, but i really think that its a new release that would make people take interest again. of course, it wouldn't make any sense this year with the vita version on the horizon, but hopefully sometime in 2013.
its called street fighter 25th anniversary, not marvel 25th anniversary.
it's one thing to hate a game, but to hate all future installments because of that is a bit silly.
Triple Da G.O.D!
Member
Reads this thread.
Knows what coming after.
& #FGC
Worth the use.
Knows what coming after.
Worth the use.
Oni Link 666
Member
SFXT is getting the big tournament prizes to get people interested, to get people playing. Just like they're doing with Super Turbo. It's not rocket science. People are still going to play SF4 and MVC3 even if the pot is $20, but they need something bigger to play SFXT right now or pick Super Turbo back up.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
Unfortunately this is also largely on Marvel Comics court too. Mahvel support most people would want is extra characters/moves/colors/costums...ect, and Marvel gotta pre-approave every little thing.
as for this game. It needs a SF3 New Gen to SF3 Third Strike kidda change, flatpout remove, rework, a buch of stuff.
SFxTekken: 2nd Impact i wait.
You act as if another version of SFxT would sell. People would be too weary.
Seraphinianus
Banned
Just imagine if this patch puts SFxT back as the fighting game.
well, look at Marvel 3