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Using SF6 to do a comparison vs Series S is meaningless, since Capcom pretty much half assed the Series S version.

DF analysis summary from adamsapple here
Essentially, they copy pasted the PS4 version to Series S, with even worse textures than the base PS4 in some instances.

that's true. we will see Switch 2 games look better than Series S games due to the neglect the Series S often gets.
The most egregious example of this is still Wild Hearts I think. that game's Series S port was an actual disaster.

there's the possibility tho that the Series S might in return see better looking ports thanks to devs already having their games optimised properly for the Switch 2.

Switch 2 should certainly be inferior to the PS4 Pro even when docked, and in turn visibly weaker than the Series S. Elden Ring and Cyberpunk have 60fps modes on Series S, for example, and are capped at 30 or 40fps on Switch 2.

Elden Ring's only actual 60fps mode is playing either the PS4 version on PS5, or playing the PS5 version on the Pro... the other 60fps modes are in reality 40fps modes that run unlocked, let's be real. lol

in many respects the Switch 2 is certainly inferior to the PS4 Pro, but especially the CPU will help it punch above the PS4 Pro.

That said, the console is a powerhouse. It should visibly eclipse the Deck in performance, and games will be optimized against it in comparison with the deck.

As I’ve said multiple times, this will pretty much get nearly every third party game out there, when everyone has their devkits.

yes. it seems to exceed expectations so far. let's hope DLSS will be shown in a title soon, because that will make the system even more interesting in terms of comparing current gen titles like Star Wars Outlaws etc.

 

[tkscz]

You buy a Portal. PS5 + Portal is still cheaper

PS5 with disk drive is $500 plus a $200 portal makes it $700. If you go with digital edition, that's $600.
Switch 2 by itself is $450. With MKW it's $500. With MKW and SF6 it's most likely $570.

You're not the only person to suggest a PS5 + Portal is cheaper than the Switch 2 and I have to ask how the hell are people coming up with that.

 

[QLQ]

All the flavours in the world and you choose pure salt. Stop caping for your console war overlord.

Aww did I hurt your feelings sugar ?

 

[QLQ]

PS5 with disk drive is $500 plus a $200 portal makes it $700. If you go with digital edition, that's $600.
Switch 2 by itself is $450. With MKW it's $500. With MKW and SF6 it's most likely $570.

You're not the only person to suggest a PS5 + Portal is cheaper than the Switch 2 and I have to ask how the hell are people coming up with that.

A PS5 comes down in price All december it was $325 bundled , PS5 Slim DE. Why do you care about the disc drive in this comparison, to put it on SW2 favor? The point is, you can always get a PS5 cheaper, SW2 maybe a $10 discount in BF 2027 (lol). SF6 can be bought for less than $60 on PS5 as well, good luck buying SF6 for less than $60 this year (unless it flops which is very likely).

 

[QLQ]

You're off to a great start.

Yeah I know, expressing my opinion and people getting upset by it. Not my problem, cry more.

 

[Boogybro]

Aww did I hurt your feelings sugar ?

No more than a handheld is hurting yours buddy.

 

[Cakeboxer]

- Switch 2 is punching way above it's weight
- The lead system architect is a god
- Nintendo's actually has a secret sauce

 

[cormack12]

PS5 DE with Astro Bot is on offer now for $399.99

https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/s/KMdx07OsrS

And can be got for £329 in UK

On topic, I'd wait until we get proper comparisons, this source has had lots of mistakes in the past

 

[QLQ]

Lol. I'm not getting a Switch 2 with Nintendo's crazy game prices. They can gargle on my unwashed nuts.

However, I can't deny it's an impressive system and would be a far better portable experience than the PS Portal.

Sure (see, I can agree on that), but this is SF we're talking about here. For one, Joycons suck for fighters. PS Portal controls any day over that crap.

 

[tkscz]

A PS5 comes down in price All december it was $325 bundled , PS5 Slim DE. Why do you care about the disc drive in this comparison, to put it on SW2 favor? The point is, you can always get a PS5 cheaper, SW2 maybe a $10 discount in BF 2027 (lol). SF6 can be bought for less than $60 on PS5 as well, good luck buying SF6 for less than $60 this year (unless it flops which is very likely).

The PS5 has also been around long enough for such bundles to be a thing. It didn't launch with bundles like that. The Switch 2 hasn't even been released yet.

If you wanted a PS5 with a portal right now, there is no sale for them and you'll be paying $650 to $700. Hell, with that $325 bundle it's still more expensive to buy it and a $200 portal than the base Switch 2. $25 more than the Switch 2 plus MKW.

As for wanting a disc drive, have you not been on Gaf long? We love our physical media. When the Pro was announced people's biggest issue here with it was the disc drive's price.

 

[Dampf]

- Switch 2 is punching way above it's weight
- The lead system architect is a god
- Nintendo's actually has a secret sauce

It's still a cross gen game that's mostly last gen, imporvements are rare in current gen.

Let's wait until we get some actual current gen games. I will be looking forward to Star Wars outlaws comparisons.

 

[cormack12]

Let's wait until we get some actual current gen games. I will be looking forward to Star Wars outlaws comparisons.

 

[memoryman3]

Why are people getting excited over this. The Switch 2 version is the same as the PS4 version, but with better character textures owing to the increased system memory. Background textures are worse in some cases, and it is even lacking the Depth of Field and volumetric lighting found in the Series S version.

A comparison to Steam Deck would be more enlightening but I doubt anyone is going to do that until launch.

 

[Sanepar]

Using SF6 to do a comparison vs Series S is meaningless, since Capcom pretty much half assed the Series S version.

DF analysis summary from adamsapple here
Essentially, they copy pasted the PS4 version to Series S, with even worse textures than the base PS4 in some instances.

Switch 2 should certainly be inferior to the PS4 Pro even when docked, and in turn visibly weaker than the Series S. Elden Ring and Cyberpunk have 60fps modes on Series S, for example, and are capped at 30 or 40fps on Switch 2.


That said, the console is a powerhouse. It should visibly eclipse the Deck in performance, and games will be optimized against it in comparison with the deck.

As I’ve said multiple times, this will pretty much get nearly every third party game out there, when everyone has their devkits.

It is better than ps4 pro and series s. Get it over.

 

[IDKFA]

Sure (see, I can agree on that), but this is SF we're talking about here. For one, Joycons suck for fighters. PS Portal controls any day over that crap.

PS Portal only makes sense if you're using it at home or somewhere with a stable connection.

When Sony release a hybrid or dedicated portable then we can compare the two. Until then the Switch 2 is miles ahead of the Portal. Miles.

 

[Buggy Loop]

wont happen with that CPU unless a specific port is made

There’s a lot of “won’t happen” so far since we began talking about switch 2 and a lot of pillars are cracking.

 

[memoryman3]

It is better than ps4 pro and series s. Get it over.

Tell CD Projekt Red that. The footage we’ve seen of Cyberpunk doesn’t even look as good as the Steam Deck version, which could lock to native 720p 30fps.

 

[Cakeboxer]

It's still a cross gen game that's mostly last gen, imporvements are rare in current gen.

Let's wait until we get some actual current gen games. I will be looking forward to Star Wars outlaws comparisons.

My post wasn't 100% serious, it was actually a best of PS5 praise. Nevertheless i'm impressed by the looks of SF6.

 

[tkscz]

Tell CD Projekt Red that. The footage we’ve seen of Cyberpunk doesn’t even look as good as the Steam Deck version, which could lock to native 720p 30fps.

Even the off screen footage looks better than the Steam Deck version and this port has only been in development for 7 weeks.

 

[Sanepar]

Tell CD Projekt Red that. The footage we’ve seen of Cyberpunk doesn’t even look as good as the Steam Deck version, which could lock to native 720p 30fps.

WHat? It looks better than deck and ps4.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

Tell CD Projekt Red that. The footage we’ve seen of Cyberpunk doesn’t even look as good as the Steam Deck version, which could lock to native 720p 30fps.

Oh goodness, you got run out of GF already? This guy is obsessed with Daisy. lol

 

[IDKFA]

wont happen with that CPU unless a specific port is made

The Switch had ports of Doom Eternal, Witcher 3 and Kingdom Come. Games considered to be impossible on the Switch.

Just watch the Switch 2 get "impossible ports" of games like BG3 and Space Marine 2. They'll probably run better than the Series S as well.

 

[Dampf]

Games that are 30 FPS cpu limited on current gen can't possibly run on Switch 2.

But... yeah. There are ports of last gen 30 FPS games on Switch 1, so I guess with the Nvidia and Nintendo magic, everything is possible.

One thing is for sure, if we get GTA 6 on Switch 2, that would shut everyone about lack of hardware capabilities up immediately. Doesn't get more demanding than that.

 

[QLQ]

As for wanting a disc drive, have you not been on Gaf long? We love our physical media. When the Pro was announced people's biggest issue here with it was the disc drive's price.

Many SW cartridges are fake physical media. Doesn't matter, the PS5 is still better value, way cheaper games. Elden was $20 physical the other day, how much on SW2 when it releases? You'll be paying full price for old games, just like SF6, and with no discount deal in sight.

 

[Ozriel]

It is better than ps4 pro and series s. Get it over.

“30 fps > 60 fps. Get over it”

- Sanepar , 2025.

The Switch had ports of Doom Eternal, Witcher 3 and Kingdom Come. Games considered to be impossible on the Switch.

The ‘impossible port’ claims were always nonsense. journalists were actually surprised at seeing games run on Switch - an Xbox 360 tier console - with Xbox 360 level visuals.

Just watch the Switch 2 get "impossible ports" of games like BG3 and Space Marine 2. They'll probably run better than the Series S as well.

That’s extremely unlikely.

 

[QLQ]

PS Portal only makes sense if you're using it at home or somewhere with a stable connection.

When Sony release a hybrid or dedicated portable then we can compare the two. Until then the Switch 2 is miles ahead of the Portal. Miles.

Again, we're in a SF6 topic. I think I mase my point clear. By miles, miles clear and you fail to grasp it.

 

[RoboFu]

Even the off screen footage looks better than the Steam Deck version and this port has only been in development for 7 weeks.

So switch 2 is even better than a ps4 pro. Nice

 

[Hookshot]

Not going to start arguing which is the best but it does seem that the Switch 2 is running games to a higher standard than a lot feared in the lead up to its reveal.

 

[Loxus]

If the console company with bigger pockets does not go Nvidia next gen they are dumb as fuck.

They're already lock in with AMD for next-gen.

After the progress AMD made with RDNA4 in both RT and AI upscaling, Nvidia isn't really that special anymore.

 

[EDMIX]

I have to ask how the hell are people coming up with that.

I mean, maybe cause those PS5 games not $80 or $90 etc lol

 

[RoboFu]

Sure (see, I can agree on that), but this is SF we're talking about here. For one, Joycons suck for fighters. PS Portal controls any day over that crap.

The joycon 2 has different thumbsticks that's more like the ps port sticks.

 

[tkscz]

Many SW cartridges are fake physical media. Doesn't matter, the PS5 is still better value, way cheaper games. Elden was $20 physical the other day, how much on SW2 when it releases? You'll be paying full price for old games, just like SF6, and with no discount deal in sight.

Yeah, and the PS5 launch was the same with PS4 up ports costing full price. The PS5 also has games with cheap disc where the full game isn't on it

I mean, maybe cause those PS5 games not $80 or $90 etc lol

So far that's just one game. But I'm only talking about the consoles. PS5 + PS Portal is more expensive than the Switch 2 MKW bundle.

 

[LordOcidax]

They're already lock in with AMD for next-gen.

After the progress AMD made with RDNA4 in both RT and AI upscaling, Nvidia isn't really that special anymore.

AMD is like 2 years behind Nvidia when is comes to graphic tech…

 

[memoryman3]

What? It looks better than deck and ps4.

We saw extended drops below the 30fps target in the footage we’ve seen.

PS4 Pro runs the game at a higher resolution and doesn’t deviate from 30fps aside from heavy shootout areas in crowded city areas. The Switch 2 footage was definitely smoother than Xbox One, which is more than I expected.

 

[EDMIX]

So far that's just one game

yea..and won't be the last.

In the end, that PS5 and portal combo sounds much more reasonable then whats going on with Switch 2, they are literally charging money just to chat with people online....

 

[Lysandros]

People are drawing way too much conclusions based on a (not particularly demanding) single fighting game and questionable (ElAnalista) sources. We need proper metrics/datas for an objective comparison.

 

[adamsapple]

We saw extended drops below the 30fps target in the footage we’ve seen.

PS4 Pro runs the game at a higher resolution and doesn’t deviate from 30fps aside from heavy shootout areas in crowded city areas. The Switch 2 footage was definitely smoother than Xbox One, which is more than I expected.

I don't think we can make an accurate comparison between the Switch 2 and PS4 Pro versions here until we see what kind of graphical settings the Switch 2 version is pushing.

Based on the image above alone, and the footage we've seen of the PS4 version, it looks like the above image is pushing visuals more, to my eyes at least.

We need actual direct-feed comparisons of both the visuals and performance to come to conclusions like that.

 

[memoryman3]

If the console company with bigger pockets does not go Nvidia next gen they are dumb as fuck.

Why? We’ve already saw Nvidia price gouging Nintendo with Switch 2. Battery life is short, and Switch 2’s backwards compatiblity is already vastly inferior to Xbox/PS5.

 

[RodriGames40]

Even the off screen footage looks better than the Steam Deck version and this port has only been in development for 7 weeks.

We saw extended drops below the 30fps target in the footage we’ve seen.

PS4 Pro runs the game at a higher resolution and doesn’t deviate from 30fps aside from heavy shootout areas in crowded city areas. The Switch 2 footage was definitely smoother than Xbox One, which is more than I expected.

Looks better, not runs better. This is also an early build and performance is being improved, they already said so.

 

[LordOcidax]

We saw extended drops below the 30fps target in the footage we’ve seen.

PS4 Pro runs the game at a higher resolution and doesn’t deviate from 30fps aside from heavy shootout areas in crowded city areas. The Switch 2 footage was definitely smoother than Xbox One, which is more than I expected.

Frame rate count on a low quality YouTube video from a 7 weeks of work build… Some people are really desperate

 

[Buggy Loop]

Tell CD Projekt Red that. The footage we’ve seen of Cyberpunk doesn’t even look as good as the Steam Deck version, which could lock to native 720p 30fps.

How can peoples make posts like this after this has been debunked pages ago?

Dormant 2018 neo member, who’s alt is this?

“30 fps > 60 fps. Get over it”

- Sanepar , 2025.

Ozriel,

Are you ok buddy?



Where is PS4 pro 60 fps?

And that’s not even considering Phantom liberty which is harder to run and is actually not even on those consoles

The ‘impossible port’ claims were always nonsense. journalists were actually surprised at seeing games run on Switch - an Xbox 360 tier console - with Xbox 360 level visuals.

So… impossible ports

I think everyone understands what it means.

That’s extremely unlikely.

So far it’s not going too well for peoples who were cynical on Switch 2 performances just a few months ago.

If cyberpunk 2077 phantom liberty runs with near PS5 version fidelity in assets as comparisons show so far, anything can. There’s no heavy culling of assets like Switch 1 impossible ports got for this game. A massive open world tech showcase and one of the best looking game around. Any excuses that Switch 2 can’t handle it just flew out the window. And this is just with 7 weeks of work.

I suggest stopping making bold claims like the one you just made. Ain’t gonna age well.

 

[Insane Metal]

Dude, that looks way better than I expexted. Closer to the PS5 version than PS4!

 

[Buggy Loop]

Why? We’ve already saw Nvidia price gouging Nintendo with Switch 2. Battery life is short, and Switch 2’s backwards compatiblity is already vastly inferior to Xbox/PS5.

Now look at AMD PC handhelds and tell me you didn’t smoke crack before posting

 

[Buggy Loop]

Frame rate count on a low quality YouTube video from a 7 weeks of work build… Some people are really desperate

These dormant troll alt accounts also fail to capture PS4 Pro’s performance for PHANTOM LIBERTY : 0p 0fps

 

[Leopold]

I have a Steam Deck and this is MUCH better than how it runs CP2077. Can't compare.

 

[Mr Moose]

Where is PS4 pro 60 fps?

It is better than ps4 pro and series s. Get it over.

 

[Fbh]

Not going to start arguing which is the best but it does seem that the Switch 2 is running games to a higher standard than a lot feared in the lead up to its reveal.

Yeah DLSS is going to be great for IQ on Switch 2.
The biggest issue with the presentation of games on the Switch 1 wasn't graphics IMO but simply the awful blurry low resolution look of everything .Over the years I started using the Switch more and more as a handheld because most games just look awful on my 55" 4K Tv.

 

[KU_]

Looks better, not runs better. This is also an early build and performance is being improved, they already said so.

Didn’t CDPR confirm a 40 FPS balanced mode as well?

 

[Ozriel]

How can peoples make posts like this after this has been debunked pages ago?

Dormant 2018 neo member, who’s alt is this?



Ozriel,

Are you ok buddy?



Where is PS4 pro 60 fps?

And that’s not even considering Phantom liberty which is harder to run and is actually not even on those consoles





So… impossible ports

I think everyone understands what it means.



So far it’s not going too well for peoples who were cynical on Switch 2 performances just a few months ago.

If cyberpunk 2077 phantom liberty runs with near PS5 version fidelity in assets as comparisons show so far, anything can. There’s no heavy culling of assets like Switch 1 impossible ports got for this game. A massive open world tech showcase and one of the best looking game around. Any excuses that Switch 2 can’t handle it just flew out the window. And this is just with 7 weeks of work.

I suggest stopping making bold claims like the one you just made. Ain’t gonna age well.

Ah, I feel like I’m being misunderstood. I’m a big proponent of the power of the Switch 2, I’m preordering the second it comes up in Canada and I’ve been among the few here who’ve been banging on about Switch 2 getting solid third party support…and I’ve held that position for months.
What we’ve seen is really impressive, and I’m not sure why people think that PS4 level visuals with better framerate is underselling it. That’s better than the deck, and frankly fantastic.

That said, I don’t believe it’ll be able to hit XSS level graphics with that power envelope. I’m not even sure the upcoming Z2 Extreme gets there.

Baffled why there’s the narrative that some are downplaying it when saying it’s probably weaker than the PS4 Pro’s GPU.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Mr Moose then Sanepar is right for SF6

It is 60 fps on switch 2 and looks better than series S

Will every games run better on switch 2 than series S? No I don’t think so. Nvidia handhelds run wide and low clocks for battery while consoles run narrower and fast, there’s cases where it won’t surpass it definitely

But just a month ago, did anyone have on their bingo card that a single switch 2 game would surpass a Series S one? Nobody. Not even me.

Point is, devs have no reason to not have the game running on Switch 2 now and cyberpunk 2077 phantom liberty shows that there’s no heavy culling to be done.