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[nial]

Nintendo doesn't have a reputation for releasing no games

 

[SHAKEZ]

It's not BB2 though.

 

[Bernardougf]

I love Bloodborne and From Software, but people would be pissed (and I would be pissed) if Bloodborne 2 was announced exclusively for PS5 and it was MP only.

So I'm confused by reaction to DuskBloods, regardless if it's ends up being good.

I'm also not really liking this MP focus between DuskBloods and Night Reign from From Software as of late.

Thoughts?

Nint Fanboys gloated at the announcement.. they cant take it back just because is lame ass MP only pvpvpve ...it was their only win at that awful showing

I would buy a switch just to play this game.. now ? Dont care..

 

[FeralEcho]

I'm actually butthurt to Miyazaki, like, if you're willing to make a vampires-themed Bloodborne knockoff exclusively for a single system... then go make an actual Vilebloods spin-off to the Bloodborne series for PlayStation, who I'd bet would be thrilled to fund after Bloodborne's 8 million lifetime sales on a single platform in a pre-Elden Ring era.

This feels just as lame as if Kojima were to include an enemy with a pyramid-shaped head in OD while also setting the game in a foggy town -- at that point just go bury the hatchet with Konami and make an actual Silent Hill game.

From has expressed desire in working on the Bloodborne IP. Blame Sony for stitting with their dick in their hands for 10 years doing nothing.

 

[nial]

From has expressed desire in working on the Bloodborne IP. Blame Sony for stitting with their dick in their hands for 10 years doing nothing.

I don't seriously believe Sony wanted From Software only for Déraciné and nothing else.

 

[FeralEcho]

I don't seriously believe Sony wanted From Software only for Déraciné and nothing else.

Look... I'd love to believe that but I just can't. There's no way Sony aproached FROM to work on Bloodborne and From just said....nah,we want to work on something almost 1 to 1 but Multiplayer and with the competition.

There's something we don't know here.

 

[Boss Mog]

Yeah I noticed the Nintendo fanboys are going crazy for this game, but like nobody cares about some multiplayer only game. This isn't the big W they think it is.

 

[Zacfoldor]

lol Sony hasn't announced Bloodborne 2 at all.

Why are you so mad about this?

 

[Throttle]

I believe people (myself included) are disappointed fromsoft is clearly changing their focus towards multiplayer games, instead of the single-player with pvp/coop elements that they were known for.

While nobody is entitled to it, it still is shitty, is like a heavy metal band you enjoyed for 15 years suddenly started doing reggae, it's their product, but as a consumer, you should voice your disapproval.

Nintendo guys are on cope mode. If this was a traditional AAA Fromsoft game, spiritual successor to Bloodborne like Demon to Dark Souls, people would be going crazy for it.

 

[Jigsaah]

Wait I didn't catch that during the presentation. Duskbloods is multiplayer only? Why?

 

[FeralEcho]

Yeah I noticed the Nintendo fanboys are going crazy for this game, but like nobody cares about some multiplayer only game. This isn't the big W they think it is.

To be fair it is directed by Miyazaki so it's not just some side project,I understand how people would be excited despite the MP only stigma but also after that shitty ass presentation they need all the cope they can get

 

[MMaRsu]

Wait I didn't catch that during the presentation. Duskbloods is multiplayer only? Why?

Yes

 

[nial]

Look... I'd love to believe that but I just can't. There's no way Sony aproached FROM to work on Bloodborne and From just said....nah,we want to work on something almost 1 to 1 but Multiplayer and with the competition.

There's something we don't know here.

The thing is that we *do* know Sony approached Bloodborne shortly after The Old Hunters shipped. After the PlayStation awards ceremony in December 2015, a few Bloodborne producers met with Miyazaki and approached him for a new collaborative project (this is from a Japanese interview, btw). That project resulted on Déraciné almost 3 years later, but I find it hard to believe that these same producers weren't up for a Bloodborne sequel as well.
This was around the same time Miyazaki wasn't too fond on sequels per some interviews in early 2016, so it's not impossible to think that From Software wasn't up for a Bloodborne follow-up.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Duskbloods is multiplayer only?

We don't know if it's exclusively multiplayer, but it sure is labelled as PvPvE.

Why?

Worst timeline.

 

[Zacfoldor]

Yeah I noticed the Nintendo fanboys are going crazy for this game, but like nobody cares about some multiplayer only game. This isn't the big W they think it is.

Yeah, lol, it really seems like yall don't care at all about this, LOL. I see how totally unaffected you all are. Nobody cares about some Fromsoft game? Gotcha chief.

 

[Throttle]

Yeah I noticed the Nintendo fanboys are going crazy for this game, but like nobody cares about some multiplayer only game. This isn't the big W they think it is.

It would have been a HUGE win if it was a true "Bloodborne". I don't understand why they are doing this to us.

 

[Jigsaah]

I mean I'm still interested, don't get me wrong but is this gonna be like NightReign then? Like a roguelite? I don't see how it can be multiplayer only if it has a traditional soulslike story. What if you're offline? You telling me the game just...won't start?

 

[FeralEcho]

The thing is that we *do* know Sony approached Bloodborne shortly after The Old Hunters shipped. After the PlayStation awards ceremony in December 2015, a few Bloodborne producers met with Miyazaki and approached him for a new collaborative project (this is from a Japanese interview, btw). That project resulted on Déraciné almost 3 years later, but I find it hard to believe that these same producers weren't up for a Bloodborne sequel as well.
This was around the same time Miyazaki wasn't too fond on sequels per some interviews in early 2016, so it's not impossible to think that From Software wasn't up for a Bloodborne follow-up.

I don't know anymore man,so many theories,rumors...as a huge fan of this IP:

 

[Alebrije]

Don't worry OP, there won't be ever a BB2

 

[Ribi]

Too bad Nintendo players can't complain online to each other, they're too busy typing in friend codes from 2003 and battle the infrastructure also from 2003

 

[Spooky Scary Skeleton]

If Miyazaki is doing this to fund another Soulsborne project, then by all means, you do whatever you gotta do.

 

[Arachnid]

PlayStation was supposed to bring gaming out of the bedroom and make it mainstream and yet their fans are sat in the dark playing with themselves while Nintendo's off multiplaying at rooftop parties since 2017

You can be a shut in loser playing Bloodbourne or you can have friends and play Duskbloods like a socially well adjusted member of society.

This is truly the worst timeline

 

[Boss Mog]

Yeah, lol, it really seems like yall don't care at all about this, LOL. I see how totally unaffected you all are. Nobody cares about some Fromsoft game? Gotcha chief.

Self-portrait? I don't even like From games so I could care less even if this was Bloodborne 2. Also, I judge every game individually and don't blindly cheer a game because I like the dev or publisher. I like Square-Enix but they have made plenty of shit games and I'm not afraid to call them out when they do. I guess not being a total zealot is a foreign concept to a Nintendo fan though.

 

[TintoConCasera]

If Miyazaki is doing this to fund another Soulsborne project, then by all means, you do whatever you gotta do.

One could assume that Elden Ring selling 25+ million copies was funding enough.

I wonder what's going on there. I just hope both this and Neightreign are just Bandai and Nintendo wanting a small slice of the From cake while they are actually working on a traditional, single-player game.

Duskblood's being directed by Miyazaki could just be marketing speach. Or maybe I'm coping, that could be too.

 

[EN250]

Rightfully so, because NO ONE wants MP online only Bloodborne

Let From do whatever the hell they want, so they can come back later to ER2 or the next Souls like they'll be cooking

 

[Spooky Scary Skeleton]

One could assume that Elden Ring selling 25+ million copies was funding enough.

I wonder what's going on there. I just hope both this and Neightreign are just Bandai and Nintendo wanting a small slice of the From cake while they are actually working on a traditional, single-player game.

Duskblood's being directed by Miyazaki could just be marketing speach. Or maybe I'm coping, that could be too.

That profit was for funding Nightreign

 

[HenryJr]

Rightfully so, because NO ONE wants MP online only Bloodborne

Let From do whatever the hell they want, so they can come back later to ER2 or the next Souls like they'll be cooking

If Miyazaki is doing this to fund another Soulsborne project, then by all means, you do whatever you gotta do.

I really hope you're both right BUT.
> denial. (We are here right now)
anger.
bargaining.
depression.
acceptance.

 

[EN250]

I really hope you're both right BUT.
> denial. (We are here right now)
anger.
bargaining.
depression.
acceptance.

?

This is not the first time From do some game that's not what people are waiting for, like remember the VR game they did for Sony?

Is this a new console wars BS? From being doing exclusives for a long time now, so idk what are you trying to imply here

I know it must be something big for Nintendo fans after years of neglect, but check their wiki if you don't believe me, they always have an exclusive game for an specific system from time to time

 

[Ebrietas]

Look... I'd love to believe that but I just can't. There's no way Sony aproached FROM to work on Bloodborne and From just said....nah,we want to work on something almost 1 to 1 but Multiplayer and with the competition.

There's something we don't know here.

No shit. So why all the freaking out?

Duskbloods is clearly another side project like Deracine and Nightreign. From hasn't announced their next big RPG post-Elden Ring yet. Even if Sony and From wanted to make a new BB, it's not like they had time with all hands on deck for Elden Ring for the past 5 years.

Be patient. Something is brewing.

 

[HenryJr]

?

This is not the first time From do some game that's not what people are waiting for, like remember the VR game they did for Sony?

Is this a new console wars BS? From being doing exclusives for a long time now, so idk what are you trying to imply here

I know it must be something big for Nintendo fans after years of neglect, but check their wiki if you don't believe me, they always have an exclusive game for an specific system from time to time

I really dislike console wars stuff, I didn't even mention anything related to it.

My point is this is the second multiplayer focused fromsoft is doing in a row.
I assume they are going in the games as a service route, and I had no idea they made a VR game, I have to look into.

 

[LaughingStock]

MP only? I'm canceling my Switch 2 pre-order right now.

 

[MagiusNecros]

No shit. So why all the freaking out?

Probably years of wanting a Bloodborne Remaster or PC Version or a sequel and you get a spiritual successor in Duskblood as Nintendo Exclusive and seemingly multiplayer focus in a primarily singleplayer series.

 

[FeralEcho]

No shit. So why all the freaking out?

Duskbloods is clearly another side project like Deracine and Nightreign. From hasn't announced their next big RPG post-Elden Ring yet. Even if Sony and From wanted to make a new BB, it's not like they had time with all hands on deck for Elden Ring for the past 5 years.

Be patient. Something is brewing.

Except it's not just a side project since Miyazaki is confirmed to be directing this. If he wasn't maybe it wouldn't be such a big deal but if he's involved that throws the plans for another big project anytime soon out the window.

And I'm not freaking out, I'm just tired of constantly waiting for anything to be done with the Bloodborne IP. When you go 10 years of constant rumors and theories and dissapointment it turns you jaded to it so telling me to be patient after 10 years of waiting won't do anything.

 

[Ebrietas]

Except it's not just a side project since Miyazaki is confirmed to be directing this. If he wasn't maybe it wouldn't be such a big deal but if he's involved that throws the plans for another big project anytime soon out the window.

And I'm not freaking out, I'm just tired of constantly waiting for anything to be done with the Bloodborne IP. When you go 10 years of constant rumors and theories and dissapointment it turns you jaded to it so telling me to be patient after 10 years of waiting won't do anything.

Who do you think directed Deracine?

 

[FeralEcho]

Probably years of wanting a Bloodborne Remaster or PC Version or a sequel and you get a spiritual successor in Duskblood as Nintendo Exclusive and seemingly multiplayer focus in a primarily singleplayer series.

Bingo.

 

[EN250]

I really dislike console wars stuff, I didn't even mention anything related to it.

My point is this is the second multiplayer focused fromsoft is doing in a row.
I assume they are going in the games as a service route, and I had no idea they made a VR game, I have to look into.

The Souls genre marked the path to them, there's always an online component and they sure are trying to perfect it, so not saying they'll do GAAS stuff from now on, but they probably want a more robust MP/online component in these days of "engagement" and millions playing the same game after years of release like Fortnite, GTAO, Apex and so on

 

[_Idea_of_Evil_]

I'm also not really liking this MP focus between DuskBloods and Night Reign from From Software as of late.

Were you able to play the Nightreign network test? It's very fun, even with randoms. If Duskbloods plays similarly, I think it'll be very good. A primarily single player experience would've been preferable, but I have faith in the multiplayer focus after trying out Nightreign. Plus, the art direction alone and being in a Bloodborne-esque world directed by Miyazaki again is too good to pass up. Beasts, blood, guns, Victorian Gothic architecture, eldritch manifestations. The characters even seem to be doing the Bloodborne walk too.

 

[FeralEcho]

Who do you think directed Deracine?

I suppose,I guess we'll see what happens.

It's just even more soul crushing when you know Bloodborne's 10th anniversary was just over a week ago...

We're all still trapped in the Nightmare.

 

[fart town usa]

Maybe we should wait to see what the game actually is.

The outrage over PvPvE is dumb considering that's every Souls game. Being invaded is fun when people want to throwdown. Invaders who run are a nuisance.

 

[HenryJr]

The Souls genre marked the path to them, there's always an online component and they sure are trying to perfect it, so not saying they'll do GAAS stuff from now on, but they probably want a more robust MP/online component in these days of "engagement" and millions playing the same game after years of release like Fortnite, GTAO, Apex and so on

As far as I understand, this is GAAS.

And I agree with you on the overall point, I just really dislike that they are doing it.
And although it probably won't make much of a difference to them, I'll be skipping both games.

 

[L*][*N*K]

what is this about? Everyone is mad at Nintendo about everything so you want us to go at them with pitchforks or something?

 

[Robb]

I hadn't even realized it was a multiplayer title.

Not that I was interested in it anyway, but even less so now.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

And you think people aren't pissed about Duskbloods being labelled as a multiplayer game? bruh

It's wonderful to see, even moreso since it's Switch 2 exclusive.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

I love Bloodborne and From Software, but people would be pissed (and I would be pissed) if Bloodborne 2 was announced exclusively for PS5 and it was MP only.

So I'm confused by reaction to DuskBloods, regardless if it's ends up being good.

I'm also not really liking this MP focus between DuskBloods and Night Reign from From Software as of late.

Thoughts?

Are you retarded? Majority in the announcement thread are complaining about MP

 

[IntentionalPun]

Good think it's not a sequel to a single player game then.

 

[Memati187]

I don't get the hype for fromsoft, they release the same game over and over again.

I really like demon souls, loved bloodborne, sekiro was awesome, but dark souls and elden ring suck. Elden ring somehow made me dislike their formula.

They really need to up their game on their future titles.

 

[fart town usa]

Yeah, lol, it really seems like yall don't care at all about this, LOL. I see how totally unaffected you all are. Nobody cares about some Fromsoft game? Gotcha chief.

It's surreal to me and the haters are expending pure cope.

I don't recall seeing outrage over Nightreign. And the PvPvE pearl clutching, that's every Souls game. Like what planet am I living on and what game forum is this? If the game was multiplat we'd have a thread dedicated to analyzing each frame for lore.

This is pure salt from people upset that the game is exclusive.

 

[fart town usa]

?

This is not the first time From do some game that's not what people are waiting for, like remember the VR game they did for Sony?

Is this a new console wars BS? From being doing exclusives for a long time now, so idk what are you trying to imply here

I know it must be something big for Nintendo fans after years of neglect, but check their wiki if you don't believe me, they always have an exclusive game for an specific system from time to time

Deracine is an amazing VR game though.

You can't do a traditional From game in VR. From titles rely too much on scripted animations/timing for gameplay balance, it'd be a complete clown show in VR.

 

[near]

Maybe we should wait to see what the game actually is.

The outrage over PvPvE is dumb considering that's every Souls game. Being invaded is fun when people want to throwdown. Invaders who run are a nuisance.

This isn't an RPG that incorporates multiplayer. This is a 'multiplayer action' game by From Softwares own definition. Dark Souls/Elden Ring are primarily PvE games, with an optional PvP component.

 

[fart town usa]

This isn't an RPG that incorporates multiplayer. This is a 'multiplayer action' game by From Softwares own definition. Dark Souls/Elden Ring are primarily PvE games, with an optional PvP component.

I still think people should wait to see what the game actually is.

And I'm curious where the outrage is for Nightreign. I haven't seen any threads outraged about it being a roguelike/MP title.

My initial theory of upset fanboys seems fitting for where we are right now.