RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
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The Knick - Season 2 - Fridays on Cinemax
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blainethemono
Member
Jack Amiel's weekly live tweeted NYC/medical history fact dumps kinda provide more detail for some of the discussions happening about this show. for example, some of the Williams & Walker talk
i wish there were a better way to share these rather than screenshotting them, but this is how he started presenting them a few weeks ago, i guess so he didn't have to type them out again a few hours later for the west coast
https://twitter.com/JackAmiel/status/670493977007755264
https://twitter.com/JackAmiel/status/670494212274708481
https://twitter.com/JackAmiel/status/670494419422994432
https://twitter.com/JackAmiel/status/670494489614688256
i wish there were a better way to share these rather than screenshotting them, but this is how he started presenting them a few weeks ago, i guess so he didn't have to type them out again a few hours later for the west coast
https://twitter.com/JackAmiel/status/670493977007755264
https://twitter.com/JackAmiel/status/670494212274708481
https://twitter.com/JackAmiel/status/670494419422994432
https://twitter.com/JackAmiel/status/670494489614688256
theignoramus
Member
What the fuck happened with Abby?
Sometimes this show is too goddamn miserable.
Sometimes this show is too goddamn miserable.
That was a pretty big departure from history, killing off Dr. Cotton, not that he didn't deserve it. Clearly The Knick's world is a better one than Boardwalk Empire's. Gallinger's look when Eleanor gave the detective his tea... priceless.
Gallinger is all hot and bothered by that Walcott DNA. All about those genetics this year. Dorothy finally got what she's been after.
Barrow selling his house for an amount that barely covers his club fees. Completely tossing his family aside. He's a spectacularly stupid and superficial man.
I can't decide whether Abby wanted to kill herself, or was just self-medicating to calm down. Certainly there's nothing unusual for someone to be taking Laudanum at the time period.
Looks like some shit will go down next week.
Gallinger is all hot and bothered by that Walcott DNA. All about those genetics this year. Dorothy finally got what she's been after.
Barrow selling his house for an amount that barely covers his club fees. Completely tossing his family aside. He's a spectacularly stupid and superficial man.
I can't decide whether Abby wanted to kill herself, or was just self-medicating to calm down. Certainly there's nothing unusual for someone to be taking Laudanum at the time period.
Looks like some shit will go down next week.
theignoramus
Member
The writers said Abbys death was an accident.
Very upsetting,she was Thacks one friend.
Speaking of Thack, hes going to go totally off the rails now. He's fucking done with Abby gone.
I like that Lucys scumbag father is reaffirmed as a hypocrite shithead, only now he's been rendered helpless.
Very upsetting,she was Thacks one friend.
Speaking of Thack, hes going to go totally off the rails now. He's fucking done with Abby gone.
I like that Lucys scumbag father is reaffirmed as a hypocrite shithead, only now he's been rendered helpless.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
- holy shit gallinger's wife is batshit insane. that tracking shot of the teacup is suspenseful as fuck.
- it's great to see thackery in non-addicted form. this is the best we've ever seen him.
- cornelia's brother is responsible for spate's death isn't he?
- haha i get a kick out of these scenes where they're looking at technological novelties in these world conventions
- Barrow dropping the mic. Cold stone. Difficult to watch. There's nothing redeeming about this character.
holy shit, i spoke too soon about thackery. that's just tragic.
- it's great to see thackery in non-addicted form. this is the best we've ever seen him.
- cornelia's brother is responsible for spate's death isn't he?
- haha i get a kick out of these scenes where they're looking at technological novelties in these world conventions
- Barrow dropping the mic. Cold stone. Difficult to watch. There's nothing redeeming about this character.
holy shit, i spoke too soon about thackery. that's just tragic.
Discotheque
Banned
That's a damn shame about Abby, thackery is going to be a ridiculous mess after this
univariate
Banned
Wow. That was the best episode of the season.
Miles Quaritch
Member
I don't get it, in the same episode they show adrenaline, they don't bother using it at the end to save Abby?
And holy shit at Barrow and tossing his family aside. I just know that's not going to end well. That girl will be long gone soon enough.
And holy shit at Barrow and tossing his family aside. I just know that's not going to end well. That girl will be long gone soon enough.
CreepingFear
Member
I hope the second sister is as batty as Gallinger's wife and either cut's Gallingers dick off or kills him.
Narratively speaking, it was weird, but it made sense character wise, they had JUST discovered those effects, and it all happened in a matter of seconds, probably not the first thing that came to mind.
The one thing i didn't like was showing Nurse Elkins' father as the BDSM guy, sort of a lazy turn of events, for the religious preacher type of character.
I know the show has gone for the low hanging fruits before, but this is probably the lowest yet.
Still liked the episode, even though the whole Abby scene felt more confusing than anything.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
My thoughts exactly. The "super religious person is actually a weird* deviant* hypocrite" trope is so tired at this point.
dead souls
Member
A tired trope on this show? Shocking!
And before anyone else can post it let me just say:
A negative post from dead souls? SHOCKING!!
ffejeromdiks
Banned
Did you miss the part where Bertie ran into another room, grabbed a syringe and Thackery injected it directly into her heart? I don't think they said the name of it, but I assumed it was Adrenaline.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
yo Barrow.... nah son
not cool
NOT fuckin cool
not cool
NOT fuckin cool
It wasn't. Thackery says something and strychnine. The something sounded like brandy, but I'm not sure.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
The plotting is almost entirely cliched - it's easily the weakest part of the show.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
oh damn. pretty intense episode.
Poor ol Cleary
how many eps we got left?
Poor ol Cleary
how many eps we got left?
dead souls
Member
Yep. Between the huge budget, excellent cast and Soderbergh this should be an all time great show, but the scripting/plotting are continually a let down.
It reminds me so much of Boardwalk Empire. In theory I should love it, but it leaves me cold.
brianmcdoogle
Member
I said this back in season one. the writing is the weakest part of the show.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
The problem I had with BE, was that it had about 40 million characters, and was obsessed with following all of them, when many weren't all that interesting.
Had it been a more focused show, it would've been much better.
The Knick doesn't suffer from that, in my opinion, and more from some clumsy and dare i say "lazy", by the numbers plot developments at times (other times it can be brilliant) and it's saved by the thick, amazing mood Cliff Mirtinez, Steven Soderbergh, the cast and the rest of the crew bring to sustain an alright but often flawed script.
If there was ever need to prove that cinema is a collaborative art form, this is a great piece of evidence.
And although they always say how writers are the centerpiece in television shows, i think this show goes against that idea somewhat.
Not to say that the writing in this is atrocious, but sometimes it does leave me puzzled, at how shamelessly on the nose they can be.
theignoramus
Member
I forgive the tropes because apart from Deadwood and the Wire, I've never seen a show address race and gender as brutally honest as the Knick.
Even Boardwalk Empire didn't take it as far as The Knick does with social themes.
I also think the writers are doing an excellent job with Cleary and Harry. Don't see too many friendships on tv between a heterosexual man and woman that don't have a romance or sex angle to it.
Harry reminds me of Anthony Hopkins character in Remains of the Day.
Even Boardwalk Empire didn't take it as far as The Knick does with social themes.
I also think the writers are doing an excellent job with Cleary and Harry. Don't see too many friendships on tv between a heterosexual man and woman that don't have a romance or sex angle to it.
Harry reminds me of Anthony Hopkins character in Remains of the Day.
BertramCooper
Banned
I kind of like the schlockiness of The Knick.
I'm fine with it being more of a guilty pleasure type of show than a prestige show.
I'm fine with it being more of a guilty pleasure type of show than a prestige show.
Anything but some aspects of the writing is as prestige as they come, though.
I mean with schlock and guilty pleasure I'd classify stuff like Game of Thrones or Banshee.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I find the plotting fine, but the number of moments this season where they've done the "Here's a thing I'm going to say that seems normal to us but the audience in modern times will think this is barbaric or ridiculous lol *wink wink*" thing. I'm kinda imagining it will culminate from "I'm hearing great research about Eugenics coming out of Germany, there's this art student who is talking about it, maybe one day he will join a political party and be an up and coming hey the guy's name, get this, is Adolf Hitler I think history will remember the name Hitler for example this is a person!!!!"
It's a pity because the material they have to work with already elicits the same kind of gasps a lot more organically, like the surgical barber cold open last season.
It's a pity because the material they have to work with already elicits the same kind of gasps a lot more organically, like the surgical barber cold open last season.
theignoramus
Member
POTUS loving the Knick:
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
RIP Homeland
ffejeromdiks
Banned
Lol wow, season 3 confirmed, you dont cancel the presidents favorite show.POTUS loving the Knick:
Obama just got even cooler in my book.
I had suspected these favorite "lists" of the presidents have always just been popularity ploys but The Knick is one of the least mainstream shows he could've picked to mention lol.
Not a single nod for the show at The Globes. Didn't wine and dine the 90 people that make the decisions at the HFPA, I guess. I walk by their offices every day when I go to and from work and often have a sudden urge to take a piss on the side of their building.
Hopefully Soderbergh will at least get a directing nomination come the Emmys like last year and probably some technical acknowledgement like set design and costumes. He should be nominated for the precision shown in Episode 7 at the charity ball alone.
Hopefully Soderbergh will at least get a directing nomination come the Emmys like last year and probably some technical acknowledgement like set design and costumes. He should be nominated for the precision shown in Episode 7 at the charity ball alone.
brianmcdoogle
Member
More people need to pay homage to The Magnificent Ambersons like he did in that scene.
theignoramus
Member
The Show will be given almost no awards or recognition from places like the Emmys or Globes.
Maybe another Peabody or AFI award though. Clive Owen, Andre Holland and Chris Sullivan acted as well as anyone nominated for any of the awards, shame about the lack of recognition there.
Now I have a good idea of frustration the Wire's viewing audience must have felt as that series got ignored by awards shows throughout its entire run. (I didnt watch any of the Wire until 2008, just before the bandwagon kicked into high gear)
Maybe another Peabody or AFI award though. Clive Owen, Andre Holland and Chris Sullivan acted as well as anyone nominated for any of the awards, shame about the lack of recognition there.
Now I have a good idea of frustration the Wire's viewing audience must have felt as that series got ignored by awards shows throughout its entire run. (I didnt watch any of the Wire until 2008, just before the bandwagon kicked into high gear)
POTUS loving the Knick:
dat good taste
CreepingFear
Member
I knew there was a reason I voted for him twice. 
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
The penultimate episode is tonight!
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Edwards and Galliger have to duke it out. I won't satisfied until Galliger gets his teeth knocked out, just like his wife.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Yooooo, Barrow is a savage. He roasted his wife when she came to shake him down. He'll get his comeuppance eventually though. I almost wish he could get his balls properly punched again.
I don't care if Gallinger cures every known disease, he won't be redeemed for me at this point.
I don't care if Gallinger cures every known disease, he won't be redeemed for me at this point.
theignoramus
Member
Wow Gallinger....just..wow.
Lots of scumbaggery this episode for sure
Lots of scumbaggery this episode for sure