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The Knick - Season 2 - Fridays on Cinemax
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Better yet, he could've secured the ladder using all those planks and use that to descend to safety without even a sprained ankle.
Lamel
Banned
I'm beginning to think it was more Henry. If he was indeed behind killing spade, then I think murder isn't past him. But it does seem like such a drastic thing to do.
I don't think Robertson actually wanted to commit suicide, there is nor real indication of that.
Also can we talk about how awesome thack was just roaming around Panama or wherever with his donkey.
I would have told Cornelia to put the ladder against the wall, hang off the ledge and try to grab the ladder while falling. That'll probably hurt but it's better than burning and dying.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Crazy episode. Dont even know where the hell any of this is going or how any possible resolution can be had from the finale. Everyone is fucked.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Finale tonight!
Oh man, that certainly felt like it could be the series finale.
Thackery...
But Bertie wearing the white shoes... it all came full circle to the pilot.
This was bleak as fuck. Cleary and Henry reveal their respectively monstrous secrets. Barrow escapes (for now). Cornelia deciding she can't live in the country anymore. Gallinger off to promote eugenics in Germany. Algernon's eye seemingly beyond repair.
Soderbergh provided The Playlist a whole slew of "useless" technical statistics on the production of S2.
Thackery...
But Bertie wearing the white shoes... it all came full circle to the pilot.
This was bleak as fuck. Cleary and Henry reveal their respectively monstrous secrets. Barrow escapes (for now). Cornelia deciding she can't live in the country anymore. Gallinger off to promote eugenics in Germany. Algernon's eye seemingly beyond repair.
Soderbergh provided The Playlist a whole slew of "useless" technical statistics on the production of S2.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Man, what a way to end the show if that's how it's going to go.
" Total amount of time spent editing: 235 hours, 26 minutes, 10 seconds (Season One: 465 hours, 30 minutes, 50 seconds)"
This still amazes me. Even though they seemed to get the workflow down, that's still insane. Particularly of Soderbergh was doing it all.
" Total amount of time spent editing: 235 hours, 26 minutes, 10 seconds (Season One: 465 hours, 30 minutes, 50 seconds)"
This still amazes me. Even though they seemed to get the workflow down, that's still insane. Particularly of Soderbergh was doing it all.
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In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
Wow
AMAZING finally, the surgery had me shook lol, c'mon Thack...
but man, Show of the year again, fuck the Emmy's
AMAZING finally, the surgery had me shook lol, c'mon Thack...
but man, Show of the year again, fuck the Emmy's
I read a user comment somewhere along the lines of we have a masterpiece finale, and nothing to celebrate.
I know people hated Gallinger. I just didn't see any scenario where him failing would bring satisfaction to the bleak narrative, or Edwards any resolve.
Barrow's end is nothing but a punch line.
This episode. Fuuuu
I know people hated Gallinger. I just didn't see any scenario where him failing would bring satisfaction to the bleak narrative, or Edwards any resolve.
Barrow's end is nothing but a punch line.
This episode. Fuuuu
theignoramus
Member
Gallinger won.
Fuck.
Fuck.
Nah, I'm assuming he becomes a Nazi.
Oh my god, that was a fucking brutal episode. Jesus, I'm in shock. That last surgery made me fucking sick.
I'm really bummed out that they ended the season/series on this note. It's so fucking bleak, and I'm sad that this is the end of things. It really did feel like the end of the series, even though they seemed to have left some wiggle room with Bertie getting the Adrenaline needle, and not showing the resolution to that. They never said he died, but I'd imagine he'd be a fucking mess after that.
I'm really bummed out that they ended the season/series on this note. It's so fucking bleak, and I'm sad that this is the end of things. It really did feel like the end of the series, even though they seemed to have left some wiggle room with Bertie getting the Adrenaline needle, and not showing the resolution to that. They never said he died, but I'd imagine he'd be a fucking mess after that.
ffejeromdiks
Banned
Wow, incredible finale. It looks like the show could definitely continue if they really wanted it to, but that serves as a bittersweet, but fitting ending.
Goddamn that final surgery though...
Goddamn that final surgery though...
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Yeah, I could definitely see that being used as a series finale. I hope it isn't though, there are still places for the show to go. That surgery was so hard to watch, everyone in surgical theater being on edge too made it all the more thrilling.
Interestingly enough, this was based on an actual operation done by an American doctor who removed his own appendix, and he also believed that ether was a detriment to surgeries. He made it through and was back on his feet soon after.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_O'Neill_Kane#Do-it-yourself_surgery
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_O'Neill_Kane#Do-it-yourself_surgery
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
It always amazes me how much in this show is based off reality. The medical field came such a long way in the 20th century.
- Variety: The Knick: Cinemax Orders Script for Season 3 Premiere.
- EW: The Knick finale: Clive Owen Q&A.
- A|V Club: Is this it for The Knick?
- THR: 'The Knick' Boss Talks Thackery's Fateful Decision and Series Future.
- Yahoo: 'The Knick' Postmortem: Clive Owen on Thackery's Risky Surgery and the Future of the Series.
- EW: The Knick finale: Clive Owen Q&A.
- A|V Club: Is this it for The Knick?
- THR: 'The Knick' Boss Talks Thackery's Fateful Decision and Series Future.
Discotheque
Banned
Holy shit, I wasn't following news about this show so I went in just assuming it's a season finale
Then they drop that last 10 minutes on me AND I come in here with rumblings of this being the end of the series. Wow
Then they drop that last 10 minutes on me AND I come in here with rumblings of this being the end of the series. Wow
It's interesting that Owen is playing it a tad coy in the interviews, not completely committing to saying Thackery died. I'm not sure I would like them walking that back, however, if that's a temptation.
Clive Owen in the next season of Curb, make it happen, Larry.
Dat Henry heel turn. He was just a missing a mustache he could twirl.
What a great episode, I was on the edge of my seat at the end. Jesusfuck, Thackery, you crazy person you. I think I've had enough of Thack though. Where else can you go with this guy? He seemingly killed himself while operating on himself, high as fuck.
I wouldn't mind a third season focused on Bertie, since I like the dude and the setting a lot, but if this is the end, so be it.
What a great episode, I was on the edge of my seat at the end. Jesusfuck, Thackery, you crazy person you. I think I've had enough of Thack though. Where else can you go with this guy? He seemingly killed himself while operating on himself, high as fuck.
I wouldn't mind a third season focused on Bertie, since I like the dude and the setting a lot, but if this is the end, so be it.
theignoramus
Member
Zinberg and Bertie and edwards could carry the show going forward.
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
great episode!! last 15-20 mins were intense. Thacks operation scene was so well done. I really love this show. everything about it. I love Soderderghs style. hoping we get more, but can see it ending here.
Holy shit, I wasn't following news about this show so I went in just assuming it's a season finale
Then they drop that last 10 minutes on me AND I come in here with rumblings of this being the end of the series. Wow
Same, the fuck.
On the episode itself, didn't like how rushed the heel turn for Henry was, and the Gallinger goes to meet Hitler Assassin's Creed style shit, but i liked the rest, and that final operation was 10/10 stuff.
Honestly, i'm always for series ending on a high note, for example i'm happy Banshee is closing next year.
However in this case, it really feels premature, the show still has a lot of potential, and i don't feel it hit its high note yet.
Characters like Algenon and Bertie have a lot of directions they could go still, even with Thack dead.
Infact, many moments in this season felt rushed through, and it could've used a bit more time to develop.
Abigail's log of her sessions with the alcoholic guy, and the girl was the kid that died in S1, IIRC.
More than Gallinger? No.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I hope the truth on that never surfaces. It was extremely shitty, but he didn't see the full ramifications of what he was doing. Definitely wasn't his place to set her up and destroy what she devoted her life to, especially without talking to her about it. But considering the point they're at now...I'd rather blissful ignorance over blinding truth.
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Barrow thinks he's on top of the world lol
I would mind if the series end there, but man, I'd be lovely to see how things evolve
I would mind if the series end there, but man, I'd be lovely to see how things evolve
dead souls
Member
I've rarely been as dissatisfied with a finale as I was with that one. Tons of total shark jumping moments. I hope Cinemax has the good sense to not order a third season.
I wouldn't go that far, but the second half of this season was really fucking messy, from a writing standpoint.
Entire plotpoints abandoned for no reason, rushed and unearned "shocking" plot twists (including deaths), and really heavy handed with the historical references.
The Silver
Member
hot damn the bad guys won hard. Henry stuff made me laugh but it was very entertaining, a classic heel turn that was.
Cleary.........why man......the guy's so blinded he can't even see what he is and what he's done.
I take solace in hoping Gallinger dies horribly in WW2 somehow when he becomes a full blown Nazi.
Cleary.........why man......the guy's so blinded he can't even see what he is and what he's done.
I take solace in hoping Gallinger dies horribly in WW2 somehow when he becomes a full blown Nazi.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
The plotting was, once again, really spotty in that last one (though I suppose that's nothing new for this show, especially this season), but overall I thought it was a really solid finale. Season two was, I think, as good as (if not better) than season one, but it also didn't reach the heights of season one either (namely the one where all the racists attack the hospital and they have to sneak out).
Other thoughts:
I'm assuming Thackery isn't dead because they showed Bertie stab him in the chest with the needle full of adrenaline and it would be sort of weird to have a scene like that only to have him die anyway. Plus, after introducing adrenaline earlier in the season. they didn't really do much with it, so it makes sense that they would bring it back at the very end to save someone's life.
Cleary: ummmmmmmm
If that was the series' last episode, it's kind of delicious that Gallinger and Henry managed to get away scot-free while Algernon, Cornelia, and Thack all suffered massive blows. I'm assuming that won't stay the case if the show continues, but I think it would be kind of refreshing (in a twisted way) if it did stick.
Cinemax: please don't try to continue the series without Steven Soderbergh. If he doesn't want to keep going, then just leave it be.
EDIT: I forgot they implied that Barrow has cancer. Bye.
Other thoughts:
I'm assuming Thackery isn't dead because they showed Bertie stab him in the chest with the needle full of adrenaline and it would be sort of weird to have a scene like that only to have him die anyway. Plus, after introducing adrenaline earlier in the season. they didn't really do much with it, so it makes sense that they would bring it back at the very end to save someone's life.
Cleary: ummmmmmmm
If that was the series' last episode, it's kind of delicious that Gallinger and Henry managed to get away scot-free while Algernon, Cornelia, and Thack all suffered massive blows. I'm assuming that won't stay the case if the show continues, but I think it would be kind of refreshing (in a twisted way) if it did stick.
Cinemax: please don't try to continue the series without Steven Soderbergh. If he doesn't want to keep going, then just leave it be.
EDIT: I forgot they implied that Barrow has cancer. Bye.
I think you could see it as Bertie fails in that moment, if only due to the extensive damage Thackery already did, resulting in him being determined to further that area of study. Like Thackery spending season one finishing what he and his mentor had been working on.
Not sure Thackery living would really inspire Algernon to explore the talking cure in Thackery's honor, because he "owes him that much". I guess he could be entirely out of commission, for health and/or professional reasons, but I think that'd really lessen the impact of Thackery's whole arc, and his legacy for the others going forward.
They can definitely write it for him to survive, and while in a different situation I'd want more Clive Owen, that feels like it'd undermine a lot.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
No way man, Season 1 felt much more cohesive and with solid arcs.
Season 2 had plotpoints like Algenon's wife (or eye for that matter) that didn't really go anywhere, and others, like Henry being behind all bad things, that felt pulled out of a hat with little to no foreshadowing, in his characterization.
Bertie looked like something interesting was going to happen between him and the journalist, but then that line also settled down very fast.
I think only Thack had a great arc this season, maybe better than the last, and even him could've used a bit more time to develop.
Now i'm not saying every plot point has to evolve into a drama, but here it felt more like "oh, we need to finish? Wrap it up!".
There was so much more to do with this characters, that this really didn't feel like a neat tidy bow to end the series on, and infact, it felt like they rushed S2 to get to it.
DaMasta113
Member
When Algernon mentions he as to find a new vocation due to his eye, it looks as though he's becoming a psychiatrist and will further psychiatric medicine. I could see next season's plot going with him experimenting with early forms of electro shock therapy and other early forms of mental health treatments.