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The Official Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney (4) Thread
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darkpaladinmfc
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The previous Phoenix Wright games are just as good or better (Except GS2 which is worse). Definetely get all three, I would even recommend for you to stop playing Apollo Justice and beat Phoenix Wright 1-3 before continuing so you can enjoy Apollo Justice more (Specifically the last case which I've read some details on).methodman said:
ShockingAlberto
Member
Callibretto said:
Well, I disagree a bit. Phoenix always felt like he was aware of how things should be and was thrust in to a world of the absurd. Idiot friends, spirit channeling from a teenage idiot, an asshole rival, magicians, gay french chefs, Phoenix was living in an Escher painting and he was the only one who noticed it. Apollo tacitly accepts the weirdness because he's so new. He figures "Well, this doesn't seem normal, but I'm new, so I guess it is to them." A lot of his thought processes are like this. Things Phoenix would scoff at, Apollo just accepts.
Since I'm playing the game I don't care that much, but I do think some people in this thread could use some more heavy spoilering.
I mean, posting "last forms" gifs of witnesses can be considered spoilers, actually only knowing some character will take the witness stand at some point can be a hell of a spoiler in some case (just think First Case).
I mean, posting "last forms" gifs of witnesses can be considered spoilers, actually only knowing some character will take the witness stand at some point can be a hell of a spoiler in some case (just think First Case).
darkpaladinmfc said:
Yes.
I'm only on the beginning on the 2nd case, and already there's so much references to the first 3 games. Nothing really "important" but, it feels good to be "in the know", it's like little bits of stealth fanservice.
For example the Ema Skye who finally became detective, the panties stuffed in the car, Phoenix's theme popping up when he comes to help you, and goddamn they managed to put the Ladder-Stepladder thing AGAIN 
It wasn't even funny the first time, but somehow I absolutely love their obstination to put it in every game. Also, not surprised that Phoenix don't get hurt when bumped by a car, since he can fall through a burning bridge and keep on living.
It wasn't even funny the first time, but somehow I absolutely love their obstination to put it in every game. Also, not surprised that Phoenix don't get hurt when bumped by a car, since he can fall through a burning bridge and keep on living.The traduction on this one is still great too. The justice puns, and mainly the new stealth meme everyone will love :
Tutomos
Member
Callibretto said:
I have to say that's a very good observation. I think the first case gives you enough hints that you can kinda guess where part of the overall twist for this game is going. I don't want to spoil too much but
if you think about the pendant you will figure out something before the final reveal in the last chapter, not all of it of course.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Ramenman said:Yes.
I'm only on the beginning on the 2nd case, and already there's so much references to the first 3 games. Nothing really "important" but, it feels good to be "in the know", it's like little bits of stealth fanservice.
For example the Ema Skye who finally became detective, the panties stuffed in the car, Phoenix's theme popping up when he comes to help you, and goddamn they managed to put the Ladder-Stepladder thing AGAIN
The traduction on this one is still great too. The justice puns, and mainly the new stealth meme everyone will love :
A friend of mine show me, part of the first case and the beginning of the second.
I'm so getting this.
And the meme joke it's totally overdone, with 2 or 3 puns was more than enough.
and lol at Trucy.
They don't even hide it's actually Pearl Fey,so obvious
ShockingAlberto
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I really don't understand this theory.Relaxed Muscle said:
Why would it be Pearl? Her name is different. There is a picture of her as a kid and it is different. She has an unnatural power of perception and it is entirely different from anything in the Kurain Village. Also, she wouldn't drop her Fey name. I am pretty positive that Pearl is the "kid" Phoenix refers to who sends him Pink Princess DVDs.
Relaxed Muscle
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ShockingAlberto said:
You sure that kid, isn't that kid of the first game, (the samurai case)?, and she wouldn't be a kid exactly...,and in JFA Pearl gets impressed with Maximillion Galactica, and that would explain why she become a Magician.Both will have the same age, and Tracy seems to be unnaware of a lot of things, just like Pearl, alike personalities, and both have very alike animations and gestures, Tracy do little jumps when she is talking or just standing, Pearl jumps when she is happy....,when I saw Tracy, It was so obvious to me, maybe I'm wrong, could it be, but right now,I think is pretty clear. Of course all that comes from my little experience with the game, when I have my copy I'll have more info to have a better idea of all this.
Callibretto
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I thought the animation is similar
anyway, I'd be pretty upset if Trucy
if you put it that way, yeah I can see
to Maya, not Pearl, and I just ignore because I think it's some kind of fanservice to show Maya's animation. kinda with some of Apollo's animation that reminds me of Phoenix a couple times
anyway, I'd be pretty upset if Trucy
ended up being Pearl, for one, the personality is way different, Pearl is very shy and Trucy is a very outspoken character. and if this is Pearl making a comeback, there's no reason to need a new perceive system, they will use psyche lock again if it's Pearl. whoever Trucy is, I think it has something to do with Phoenix' case 7 years ago that make him lost his lawyer badge
ShockingAlberto said:
if you put it that way, yeah I can see
the differences, it still felt a little vague to me though, maybe now that I can see what you mean, I'd be able to differentiate between Phoenix and Apollo easier
darkpaladinmfc
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Just wanted to say that Case 3 is awesome so far, and I'm just before the first court section. I'm especially loving how much mystery there is in this game, most of the time in the cases you are wondering what the hell is going on until the very end .
.XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Got the stupid Amazon mail too about the push in ship date, so I cancelled my order from my cellphone yesterday at GDC and just walked over to the nearby EB Games after lunch to get a copy.
Almost done with the first case, the game is awesome, despite
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Almost done with the first case, the game is awesome, despite
the overuse of ORLY jokes
Callibretto
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do people here actually yell when playing the games? I played the game at home and I never yell or speak the word loudly, saying the word quietly or softly don't match in the tense courtroom situation and speaking the word loudly makes me feel stupid
Started playing last night but only got to the first cross examination and had to stop.
Having played all of the GBA Ace Attorney titles by the DS ports, I'm already blown away by the sound quality and the new backrounds/sprites in this game. Pure love.
I'm SUPER GLAD we get the 3D evidence like in the extra chapter of AA1. I played the demo sometime ago and if I recall correctly there was no 3D in the court record. That made me a little worried at the time.
Please people, try to only post links to pics and gifs that reveal too much, don't put them directly on the thread.
And abuse the spoiler tag, adventure games needs it the most.
Having played all of the GBA Ace Attorney titles by the DS ports, I'm already blown away by the sound quality and the new backrounds/sprites in this game. Pure love.
I'm SUPER GLAD we get the 3D evidence like in the extra chapter of AA1. I played the demo sometime ago and if I recall correctly there was no 3D in the court record. That made me a little worried at the time.
This.Ramenman said:
Please people, try to only post links to pics and gifs that reveal too much, don't put them directly on the thread.
And abuse the spoiler tag, adventure games needs it the most.
Femmeworth
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Got my copy today.
Crumpet Trumpet
Banned
Never mind, I got it.
Thanks Callibretto!
Edit 2: Oh gosh. Just beat the case. This game is ama-za-zing! If it keeps up the pace, I think it could be my favorite AA game.
Thanks Callibretto!
I forgot to check the door
Edit 2: Oh gosh. Just beat the case. This game is ama-za-zing! If it keeps up the pace, I think it could be my favorite AA game.
Callibretto
Member
Crumpet Trumpet said:
I just talk to Emma about it and she give me a letter so I can go into Meraksis clinic, that's as far as I played last night, so dunno if it helps you or not
going to avoid most of the posts in here now that it's mostly about AJ's game, but I've been replaying case 5 of PW:AA to kind of refresh myself with the characters that return in AJ:AA (although I guess that's just Ema) and the case is still pretty awesome.
but the one thing I don't like about it is how smart PW is compared to the other cases in PW2 and PW3. Like if you play through the trilogy just going by the original cases, you can see PW's arguing skills improve as each game goes on and it's pretty cool. Case 5 of PW:AA though is written like PW is as experienced/smart as a defense attorney as he is at the end of PW3. And the case itself is so big and epic that it kind of makes most of the other cases in PW2 seem really stupid by comparison, and makes PW himself seem like he had a horrible relapse in his lawyer skills between the two games.
I guess the easier way to explain it is I feel like case 5 of PW:AA is so good and PW is so smart in it (which is welcome) that it makes PW2 look even worse, and it kind of makes the character seem really inconsistent.
but the one thing I don't like about it is how smart PW is compared to the other cases in PW2 and PW3. Like if you play through the trilogy just going by the original cases, you can see PW's arguing skills improve as each game goes on and it's pretty cool. Case 5 of PW:AA though is written like PW is as experienced/smart as a defense attorney as he is at the end of PW3. And the case itself is so big and epic that it kind of makes most of the other cases in PW2 seem really stupid by comparison, and makes PW himself seem like he had a horrible relapse in his lawyer skills between the two games.
I guess the easier way to explain it is I feel like case 5 of PW:AA is so good and PW is so smart in it (which is welcome) that it makes PW2 look even worse, and it kind of makes the character seem really inconsistent.
Callibretto
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well you can't fault the cases for being big and epic, it's their latest case made by the developer. so it's no surprise the developer is much more experienced in making it. at least for me, I don't notice the difference much, certainly not to the point that makes pw 2 bad. I still like pw2 a lot
grandjedi6
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I just cancelled my Amazon order. I'll have to go hunting for the game tomorrow instead
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
Seeing all this Trucy love makes me so happy.
Especially since the people at the court records forum hated her, I also heard that she wasn't that well received in Japan.
I guess the Trucy defense force will be the good ol' US of A.
Especially since the people at the court records forum hated her, I also heard that she wasn't that well received in Japan.
I guess the Trucy defense force will be the good ol' US of A.
incendiarycommittee
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My copy is finally arriving today! Or at least, it should be. Great to hear that it isn't as bad as j-gaf said it might be.
Callibretto
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Hcoregamer00 said:
is there any reason for that? something in later cases that may make me change my opinion, or it's just maya fanboy hating on Trucy?
grandjedi6
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Callibretto said:
When people refer to Japan hating something, they usually are refering to 2ch. and 2ch hates everything
The people at court records hate everything that isn't Edgeworth and Phoenix. But seriously don't ever go to court records, ever. Edgeworth/Phoenix hentai is something that will scar you for life.
Crumpet Trumpet
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Hcoregamer00 said:
Wow, I don't see how anyone can hate Trucy
I mean, MR.HAT! :lol
ShockingAlberto
Member
Huh. I got to a part that keeps freezing in Case 2, second day of investigation.
When dusting for finger prints on the safe, it keeps freezing. DS won't even go in to sleep mode. Am I doing something wrong?
ChaoticBlue
Member
game should be cheaper for something you're most likely ever gonna play once.
bishopcruz
Member
Just finished Case 3, this game has some of the best filler cases in the series thus far. This was also the best entertainment related case (Well, ok, except 2-4) in the series.
Dialog has been good so far, though the names don't seem as punny as previous games. Can't complain too much as it still gives that great PW feel of figuring out a key piece of evidence and shoving it down a witness' throat.
BTW what does everyone think of Klavier? spoilers through case 3
Great overall though!
Dialog has been good so far, though the names don't seem as punny as previous games. Can't complain too much as it still gives that great PW feel of figuring out a key piece of evidence and shoving it down a witness' throat.
BTW what does everyone think of Klavier? spoilers through case 3
He's kind of interesting in that he is nowhere near the dick that Edgy, Franciska, or Godot were. Even though he has reason to want to crush AJ he actually seems to care a whole lot more about finding the truth than nailing a particular suspect. A very different vibe, less confrontational, and more cooperative, kinda like Edgy in 1-5.
Great overall though!
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
ChaoticBlue said:
Really?
It has been my experience that I have played ever single game at least twice.
Phoenix Wright - 6 times
Ace Attorney 2 - 2 times
Ace Attorney 3 - 3 times
darkjacob said:
Her dialog makes her charming, they probably heard some complaints and added the charm factor on her USA translation.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Neither do I. I mean, it's obvious thatCallibretto said:
she's bitter after spending all that time away to get ready and do the job of her dreams when she gets back and help out Phoenix, and then when she gets back Phoenix is no longer practicing and the police department places her in a completely different position.
Trucy is cute, but screw the haters, Emma > you!